I just ordered a pair of Ultrasone 15g and I doubt I'm going to like the pads on them. I owned the Sennheiser 407's and they have the same types of pads that muffle. I'm curious if there is a leather or fake leather pad that would fit on these and have atleast a 40mm opening. I say 40mm because the driver is 40mm. The Sony Mdr150's look perfect except they are 70 w/ 30mm opening.
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I really can't imagine why someone would go through the trouble of changing the pads on these headphones. There is nearly zero clamp at all and for the money this headphone sounds quite good. I dont use mine very often because - since there is no clamp - they rarely stay put on my head....but hard for me to understand why the pads would be an issue.
Have you removed the pads and listened to them? I can't speak for the Ultrasone, but the Sennheiser's when you remove the pads and either use no pads or a "leather" pad the sound becomes considerably clearer. The only issue with using them without pads is the sound becomes fatiguing. I am sure if I would have used the sennheiser 212 pads it would have been the perfect combo.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Folex
Have you removed the pads and listened to them? I can't speak for the Ultrasone, but the Sennheiser's when you remove the pads and either use no pads or a "leather" pad the sound becomes considerably clearer. The only issue with using them without pads is the sound becomes fatiguing. I am sure if I would have used the sennheiser 212 pads it would have been the perfect combo.
I really haven't....they just don't get much head time with me. They sound good enough taht I'm interested in jumping up the line one day, though. I think you'll be happy with how they sound. Probably the 2nd best headphone under $100 that I've heard so far, with the Grado SR80s being my favorite.
I've just gotten so picky with my headphones. The denon 2000's for me are perfect but they are heavy and kind of sweaty. I love the Sennheiser px100's but I always feel if the driver sizes were 40-50mm they would be perfect. So I'm hoping with the Ultrasone 15g I can get roughly the px100 sound but with a bigger driver. That and I really like the looks of the Ultrasone. I'm sure I'll have to do some adjustments to the ultrasone to get them where I want.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Folex
I've just gotten so picky with my headphones. The denon 2000's for me are perfect but they are heavy and kind of sweaty. I love the Sennheiser px100's but I always feel if the driver sizes were 40-50mm they would be perfect. So I'm hoping with the Ultrasone 15g I can get roughly the px100 sound but with a bigger driver. That and I really like the looks of the Ultrasone. I'm sure I'll have to do some adjustments to the ultrasone to get them where I want.
Well, if you're picky, you may not like them lol. I haven't heard the Denons, I would doubt that the 15gs can compete with them. The 15s definitely aren't heavy and sweaty, though...just the opposite.
I just got looking @ your info.. you went from Grados in January.. to the T1 now. wow. The denon's are bass monsters dressed in a vintage silk dress. You get quality and quantity of bass, slightly recessed mids and very nice highs. For being a semi-closed design they also have decent soundstage, nowhere near what you'd expect with an open pair but considerably better then most closed/semi-open/closed headphones. I find myself less of a basshead simply because its fatiguing no matter what you wear. I've yet to try any ultrasones and figured why not have the lower tier models be my first venture.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Folex
I just got looking @ your info.. you went from Grados in January.. to the T1 now. wow. The denon's are bass monsters dressed in a vintage silk dress. You get quality and quantity of bass, slightly recessed mids and very nice highs. For being a semi-closed design they also have decent soundstage, nowhere near what you'd expect with an open pair but considerably better then most closed/semi-open/closed headphones. I find myself less of a basshead simply because its fatiguing no matter what you wear. I've yet to try any ultrasones and figured why not have the lower tier models be my first venture.
personally I think that's the smart way to do it...or at least, that's the approach I took and it worked well for me. When I started in headphones late last Fall, I targeted a few companies and picked up their entry level models. I didn't care at all for the Sennheiser 518s (not their entry level model, I know, but close) or the AKG minis, and there was just something about the Beyer DT880s that wasn't clicking. I did like the 15gs and I really fell hard for the Grados. So now, my Grado PS500s and the T1s are my two best phones and I love them both. I also just bought some AKG Q701s since they have been discontinued...I think they're a good buy for the current price if you find them for under $250. I'm not a bass head either and I like quality over quantity, so the 701s are nice in that area. A friend of mine on here recently picked up some Ultrasone 2900s and he's pretty fond of them...and of course the 580s have a huge following on here. Lots of very interesting headphones out there! I'm just glad that I have found a couple of pairs that I get so much enjoyment out of.
For me its hard to justify paying over $1,000 for a pair of headphones. What I've found is you very rarely get an all-around better headphone vs what you had prior. Some aspects always seem to be better and others worse. Overtime I found myself thinking whatever headphones cost more were better. Even worse I was a HUGE fanboy, when I first got into headphones everything had to be sennheiser or I hated it. This changed when i bought the Denon 2000's. I'd be curious to see how you'd do in a blind test of all the beyerdynamics if you would pick the T1 vs the 770, 880, 990, T90 etc and while being completely honest without yourself would the T1 justify the $700 to $1,100 difference.
I'm still in search of my perfect headphone, 50mm+ drivers, under 6oz, leatherish pads, semi-open,9 foot dual-entry light cable, 15-22k frequency and on ear <-- Doesn't exist and at best I've been able to find half this in a headphone. If this did exist I'd probably fork over $300 for it.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Folex
For me its hard to justify paying over $1,000 for a pair of headphones. What I've found is you very rarely get an all-around better headphone vs what you had prior. Some aspects always seem to be better and others worse. Overtime I found myself thinking whatever headphones cost more were better. Even worse I was a HUGE fanboy, when I first got into headphones everything had to be sennheiser or I hated it. This changed when i bought the Denon 2000's. I'd be curious to see how you'd do in a blind test of all the beyerdynamics if you would pick the T1 vs the 770, 880, 990, T90 etc and if they wold justify the $700 to $1,100 difference.
I'm still in search of my perfect headphone, 50mm+ drivers, under 6oz, leatherish pads, semi-open,double-entry light cable, 15-22k frequency and on ear <-- Doesn't exist and at best I've been able to find half this in a headphone
I feel the same was as you do as it pertains to DACs and amps, but Im pretty confident that I could easily discern between and among headphones. Just like with home audio, I won't spend a ton of money on gear, but with speakers the differences are pretty distinct to my ears. I definitely agree with you that the most expensive headphones aren't always better. The Grado PS500s are less than half of the T1s, but if forced to choose I'd keep the Grados. I recently came across someone who loves his Q701s more than his HD800s and LCD-2s. So I definitely agree that more expensive doesn't always mean "better" in terms of what we prefer.
Well after contacting the selling they said they are out of stock and my credit card won't be charged. I take that as a sign the 15g's weren't made for me. Does a 50mm on-ear semi-open/open headphone exist ?
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Quote:My pair is very lightly used...I'd consider selling them to someone who would put them to use...they just end up sitting around watching me enjoy my other headphones. Send me a PM if interested.
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