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post #76 of 109
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My wallet can't handle the SR-009's unfortunately :P

 

Neither can mine. I can barely afford used Lambda setups...but the one I've got now? Totally worth every cent. (Damn Head-Fi for making me feel even more financially inadequate...)

 

As for the HE-6, people actually like to power those with speaker amps, not headphone amps. I don't know what speaker amps they prefer, but if you've got an integrated receiver lying around, that might be a good start...and as for both "driving it well" and "sounding good", wouldn't the latter imply that the amps that do that while driving it well might actually color the sound somewhat?

post #77 of 109
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Beats by dre rock edition very_evil_smiley.gif

Raised the frequency range from 20Hz - 200Hz to 20Hz - 500Hz ? sounds really exciting

post #78 of 109
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I get a bit confused with the amp part of the HE-6, in the thread about amping it, the guy says that not all amps that can properly drive it will sound good with it. Which amp will drive it and sound good?

I think the vintage higher-powered Kenwood and Pioneer integrateds/receivers do a great job. Something like this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pioneer-SA-8500-Stereo-Integrated-Amplifier-Fully-Restored-and-built-to-last-/251168439352

You can run the HE-6s right off the speaker taps.
post #79 of 109

I've had the Sennheiser HD 800 for around a year now and for a while didn't really get on with it and found it fatiguingly bright. But since upgrading the stock cable to a decent aftermarket copper cable (I use a Moon Audio Black Dragon) and feeding the HD 800 with a lossless source and a decent DAC/Amp, I know I have found a rig that is of sublime quality for any music.

With this configuration I truly am in audio nirvana as I merge with the music and just enjoy it!

I've tried many of the headphones listed in this thread and what I have suggested is what I would personally recommend.

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I think the vintage higher-powered Kenwood and Pioneer integrateds/receivers do a great job. Something like this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pioneer-SA-8500-Stereo-Integrated-Amplifier-Fully-Restored-and-built-to-last-/251168439352
You can run the HE-6s right off the speaker taps.

Thanks, that's great price considering I was expecting to spend a lot more.

 

Just one more thing though, is the He-6 a lot better than the HE-400? The He-6 will be a lot more expensive and will require a lot of power, but the HE-400 costs 400, is easier to amp, is a lot lighter, and is a better for gaming I suppose. I'm just wondering if I will get a large leap in SQ, or if the differences aren't that big. I''m only willing to go for the HE-6 if it's really worth it. 

post #81 of 109
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Thanks, that's great price considering I was expecting to spend a lot more.

Just one more thing though, is the He-6 a lot better than the HE-400? The He-6 will be a lot more expensive and will require a lot of power, but the HE-400 costs 400, is easier to amp, is a lot lighter, and is a better for gaming I suppose. I'm just wondering if I will get a large leap in SQ, or if the differences aren't that big. I''m only willing to go for the HE-6 if it's really worth it. 

I think they're worth it, they're a much more rounded and detailed headphone, but value is very relative. If you have the cash, and it won't hurt you financially to spend it, it's a very special headphone that does a great job with everything (but absolutely excels with hard rock and metal). A cheaper option with almost as much potential, is the Koss ESP/950 electrostat. It's also very fast, great with metal, and includes its own amp, all for less than $700.
post #82 of 109
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I think they're worth it, they're a much more rounded and detailed headphone, but value is very relative. If you have the cash, and it won't hurt you financially to spend it, it's a very special headphone that does a great job with everything (but absolutely excels with hard rock and metal). A cheaper option with almost as much potential, is the Koss ESP/950 electrostat. It's also very fast, great with metal, and includes its own amp, all for less than $700.

Where do your T1's fall into this comparative equation? I personally use LCD's and AD2000 for most rock, but again the variety of rock/metal is extremely important and sub genres can be so diverse that we may each be talking of very different flavors of sound. I haven't experimented with my HE6 and rock enough to provide any insights of value, but for something like Bon Iver, Mark Hollis (of Talking Heads), Fleet Foxes and Elliot Smith they are phenomenal. I'm waiting for delivery of T1's and so will see where they fall. Most rock that I listen to is of the indie/folk/post-rock/shoegaze variety - so likely very different from the traditional hard rock/metal that are of interest in this thread. 

post #83 of 109
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Where do your T1's fall into this comparative equation? I personally use LCD's and AD2000 for most rock, but again the variety of rock/metal is extremely important and sub genres can be so diverse that we may each be talking of very different flavors of sound. I haven't experimented with my HE6 and rock enough to provide any insights of value, but for something like Bon Iver, Mark Hollis (of Talking Heads), Fleet Foxes and Elliot Smith they are phenomenal. I'm waiting for delivery of T1's and so will see where they fall. Most rock that I listen to is of the indie/folk/post-rock/shoegaze variety - so likely very different from the traditional hard rock/metal that are of interest in this thread. 

 

Probably a fair point about varying flavours within rock and metal.

 

In terms of metal I'm talking about stuff like Slayer and pre-Black Album Metallica, Pantera, Down, Mushroomhead, Beastwars, Korn, Mudvayne, Tool, Rage Against the Machine. For that stuff I just can't live with how guitars sound on the LCD-2. Lacks the attack and presence I want to hear. Prefer a wider soundstage too, in order to better hear the minutiae of drummers like Danny Carey and Vinnie Paul, who do a lot of delicate stuff with splash cymbals and so forth. Will shortly be tracking down from HE-6, sounds like I would enjoy them a lot for metal - fast and detailed with a wide soundstage while retaining impeccably tight bass.

post #84 of 109
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In terms of metal I'm talking about stuff like Slayer and pre-Black Album Metallica, Pantera, Down, Mushroomhead, Beastwars, Korn, Mudvayne, Tool, Rage Against the Machine. For that stuff I just can't live with how guitars sound on the LCD-2. Lacks the attack and presence I want to hear. Prefer a wider soundstage too, in order to better hear the minutiae of drummers like Danny Carey and Vinnie Paul, who do a lot of delicate stuff with splash cymbals and so forth. Will shortly be tracking down from HE-6, sounds like I would enjoy them a lot for metal - fast and detailed with a wide soundstage while retaining impeccably tight bass.

 

You should seriously consider the Audio-Technica AD2000. Percussion is one of its strengths.

post #85 of 109
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Probably a fair point about varying flavours within rock and metal.

In terms of metal I'm talking about stuff like Slayer and pre-Black Album Metallica, Pantera, Down, Mushroomhead, Beastwars, Korn, Mudvayne, Tool, Rage Against the Machine. For that stuff I just can't live with how guitars sound on the LCD-2. Lacks the attack and presence I want to hear. Prefer a wider soundstage too, in order to better hear the minutiae of drummers like Danny Carey and Vinnie Paul, who do a lot of delicate stuff with splash cymbals and so forth. Will shortly be tracking down from HE-6, sounds like I would enjoy them a lot for metal - fast and detailed with a wide soundstage while retaining impeccably tight bass.

They're the best choice for it.
post #86 of 109
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Originally Posted by NZtechfreak View Post

 

Probably a fair point about varying flavours within rock and metal.

 

In terms of metal I'm talking about stuff like Slayer and pre-Black Album Metallica, Pantera, Down, Mushroomhead, Beastwars, Korn, Mudvayne, Tool, Rage Against the Machine. For that stuff I just can't live with how guitars sound on the LCD-2. Lacks the attack and presence I want to hear. Prefer a wider soundstage too, in order to better hear the minutiae of drummers like Danny Carey and Vinnie Paul, who do a lot of delicate stuff with splash cymbals and so forth. Will shortly be tracking down from HE-6, sounds like I would enjoy them a lot for metal - fast and detailed with a wide soundstage while retaining impeccably tight bass.

I listened to Justice for All on my HE-400's last week, still as amazing as I remember it being only a lot more intimate. I've heard the album at least 100 times on tape over the years and it's not a terrific recording, but I think it's very raw and real. Even with the 400's being laid back and the production on that album being "unique" it was still very enjoyable.

post #87 of 109

I don't know if the thread starter has made any purchases since starting tis thread, but for less than the initial budget stated, I'd highly recommend considering the Sennheiser HD 600 as a superb headphone, for rock, metal, and everything else, IMO. My HD 800, as precise as it is, can get fatiguing after a while, but I can listen to my HD 600 for hours with perfect aural health and maximum enjoyment. I'm sure that the HD 600 and a decent quality DAC and amp would serve you well for the rest of your days and nights. smily_headphones1.gif

post #88 of 109
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I don't know if the thread starter has made any purchases since starting tis thread, but for less than the initial budget stated, I'd highly recommend considering the Sennheiser HD 600 as a superb headphone, for rock, metal, and everything else, IMO. My HD 800, as precise as it is, can get fatiguing after a while, but I can listen to my HD 600 for hours with perfect aural health and maximum enjoyment. I'm sure that the HD 600 and a decent quality DAC and amp would serve you well for the rest of your days and nights. smily_headphones1.gif

I haven't bought it yet, and I'm thinking about going for something cheaper than the HE-6 which doesn't require that much power. There's something I don't like about the HD-600 from what I've read, it is said to be the jack of all trades, master of none, meaning it's a good all-arounder but it doesn't excel in any particular genre. Do you think that's the case with the HD-600? I listen only to rock and metal, so I would want something which excels in it. This doesn't mean I'm not considering it though, I can't judge something I haven't heard. Do you think it would excel for my genres despite it's reputation as an all-arounder?

 

btw, I'm also considering the DT880, can anyone comment on how they perform forrock and metal?

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DT880? A little too bright for my taste and not quite fast enough.
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DT880? A little too bright for my taste and not quite fast enough.

 

do you think the HE-500 is the best option for something that doesn't require as much power as the HE-6?

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