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I just recently found out that I prefer a darker and thicker signature for rock and metal, so for now, I'm sticking with the Hifimans or audeze. I'll still try to listen to some grado's though. 

 

Man I wish I had the SR-009's :P

 

Also, do you guys think the HE-6 is better for metal than the HE-500? If so, it will be LCD-2 vs HE-6 for me.

HE-6 is quite a bit faster-sounding than HE-500, so yes I'd say it would perform much better with metal.

post #62 of 109
But make sure that you get an amp that can power them right, or you'll get harsh highs and no bass. But if powered right, they are fantastic with metal
post #63 of 109
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@Jerg How will they perform with vocal oriented music? I'm suspecting the HE-500 will have a bit more body for that, but I may be wrong. 

 

I've seen the thread about powering the HE-6, but he says that just because a certain amp he mentions is capable of driving it doesn't mean it will sound good. What speaker amp around 500 dollars (or maybe a bit more, but only if necessary) will make it sound good, and not just make it loud enough?

post #64 of 109
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Originally Posted by daniel521 View Post

@Jerg How will they perform with vocal oriented music? I'm suspecting the HE-500 will have a bit more body for that, but I may be wrong. 

 

I've seen the thread about powering the HE-6, but he says that just because a certain amp he mentions is capable of driving it doesn't mean it will sound good. What speaker amp around 500 dollars (or maybe a bit more, but only if necessary) will make it sound good, and not just make it loud enough?

 

HE-500 has a more intimate vocal presentation but HE-6 is quite a bit more realistic in timbre.

post #65 of 109

The SR-009 got mentioned earlier, but is there any reason you wouldn't consider a more affordable Lambda-series set? (Maybe the SRM-X/Mk3 too, if you don't mind supra-aural. Some consider those "what Grado should've been" for whatever reason.)

 

Soundstage? Check.

Fast enough for metal? Double-check.

Enjoyable to listen to rock/metal with? I certainly think so, though I can't speak for everyone else.

Affordable enough to fit into a $1,000 budget with an SRM-1/Mk2 Pro or SRM-T1? Check.

 

There's also the ESP/950, but I haven't had the chance to audition one of those. Some prefer their rendition of the electrostatic sound over the numerous Stax offerings.

 

EDIT: Wait, you prefer a darker signature. Scratch the Lambdas unless you're willing to EQ, then. Don't know where the ESP/950 stands on the dark vs. bright scale, though; everybody talks about its midrange most. (And if there's one thing I can't have enough of for vocal-oriented music like most rock, it's a good midrange.)


Edited by NamelessPFG - 10/27/12 at 9:01pm
post #66 of 109
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Originally Posted by NamelessPFG View Post

The SR-009 got mentioned earlier, but is there any reason you wouldn't consider a more affordable Lambda-series set? (Maybe the SRM-X/Mk3 too, if you don't mind supra-aural. Some consider those "what Grado should've been" for whatever reason.)

 

Soundstage? Check.

Fast enough for metal? Double-check.

Enjoyable to listen to rock/metal with? I certainly think so, though I can't speak for everyone else.

Affordable enough to fit into a $1,000 budget with an SRM-1/Mk2 Pro or SRM-T1? Check.

 

There's also the ESP/950, but I haven't had the chance to audition one of those. Some prefer their rendition of the electrostatic sound over the numerous Stax offerings.

 

EDIT: Wait, you prefer a darker signature. Scratch the Lambdas unless you're willing to EQ, then. Don't know where the ESP/950 stands on the dark vs. bright scale, though; everybody talks about its midrange most. (And if there's one thing I can't have enough of for vocal-oriented music like most rock, it's a good midrange.)

Yeah, a bright sound signature just sounds thin to me, I prefer a darker and thicker signature since IMO, it has a lot more weight and impact. I'm not sure about EQing though, I think I might stick to the orthos, which are also know for a fantastic midrange :)

post #67 of 109
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Yeah, a bright sound signature just sounds thin to me, I prefer a darker and thicker signature since IMO, it has a lot more weight and impact. I'm not sure about EQing though, I think I might stick to the orthos, which are also know for a fantastic midrange :)

 

I'm not really looking for weight and impact personally (I actually like that "ethereal" presentation 'stats have), though I'm not above using a little bass boost on my SR-Lambda to aid in sub-bass extension and balance out the sound presentation a bit. It EQs really well.

 

But if that tactile feeling is what you want, you probably are best off sticking to orthos, maybe unless the SR-009 really is a "Stax with impact" as they put it.

post #68 of 109
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Originally Posted by NamelessPFG View Post

 

I'm not really looking for weight and impact personally (I actually like that "ethereal" presentation 'stats have), though I'm not above using a little bass boost on my SR-Lambda to aid in sub-bass extension and balance out the sound presentation a bit. It EQs really well.

 

But if that tactile feeling is what you want, you probably are best off sticking to orthos, maybe unless the SR-009 really is a "Stax with impact" as they put it.

My wallet can't handle the SR-009's unfortunately :P

post #69 of 109
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Originally Posted by ericfarrell85 View Post

Not being a big fan of metal I cannot comment, but the LCD's spank every RS1 I've ever owned (RS1 with buttons and RS1i) with rock. Occasionally there is an album that the RS1 does very well with and even exceeds the LCD's with great guitar energy, but predominately they're in quite a different league in my opinion. It took a great deal of time and effort to find the proper synergistic match for the LCD's, but boy has it paid off (they are no place near slow and are far more transparent than RS1's). My HE6 out of Marantz 2285 is also phenomenal with certain varieties of indie rock and again are a step or even two above the RS1 in my opinion. 

I'd say its purely personal preference I tried the LCD2 and the PS500 back to back and my friend was willing to sell me the LCD2s for only 200$ more than the PS500 but I still went with the Grado. I just really like the "in your face!" super fast and and bright Grado more than the relatively slow and almost too "beautiful" feeling of the LCD cans.

post #70 of 109
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Also, do you guys think the HE-6 is better for metal than the HE-500? If so, it will be LCD-2 vs HE-6 for me.

With a good amp, the HE-6s are much better for hard rock and metal. I even prefer them to the SR-009s, because of their harder edge. As I've said many times, they are the headphones for those genres.

The best STAX for HR/metal are the 4070s, but they're closed and hard to find (OOP).
Edited by Magick Man - 10/28/12 at 1:25am
post #71 of 109

Beats by dre rock edition very_evil_smiley.gif

post #72 of 109
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With a good amp, the HE-6s are much better for hard rock and metal. I even prefer them to the SR-009s, because of their harder edge. As I've said many times, they are the headphones for those genres.
The best STAX for HR/metal are the 4070s, but they're closed and hard to find (OOP).

 

Sounds like the HE-6 is in my future for sure, would love to have an orthodynamic headphone that excels at metal (if you missed earlier posts I already have the LCD-2 and to my ear that doesn't excel at metal, so don't bother suggesting that to me). 

post #73 of 109
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Sounds like the HE-6 is in my future for sure, would love to have an orthodynamic headphone that excels at metal (if you missed earlier posts I already have the LCD-2 and to my ear that doesn't excel at metal, so don't bother suggesting that to me). 

Wouldn't dream of suggesting the LCD-2, I don't care for Audeze headphones. wink.gif
post #74 of 109
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Wouldn't dream of suggesting the LCD-2, I don't care for Audeze headphones. wink.gif

 

Heh, I wasn't referring to you - I saw your posts about the LCD-2s (probably the only person as strongly opposed to them as a metal headphone as me!).

 

Will be interesting to see whether the RSA Intruder that is presently shipping to me will indeed be powerful enough to light up the HE-6...

post #75 of 109
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Originally Posted by Magick Man View Post


With a good amp, the HE-6s are much better for hard rock and metal. I even prefer them to the SR-009s, because of their harder edge. As I've said many times, they are the headphones for those genres.
The best STAX for HR/metal are the 4070s, but they're closed and hard to find (OOP).

I get a bit confused with the amp part of the HE-6, in the thread about amping it, the guy says that not all amps that can properly drive it will sound good with it. Which amp will drive it and sound good?

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