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As a fellow metal head the problem with metal is recording and engineering. Much of it is poorly recorded and high end headphones tend to be too revealing for it. I like my Grado SR80 with metal.

I don't think that's gonna be much of a problem. This website is very handy to see which CD's were recorded well and which one's weren't: http://www.dr.loudness-war.info/index.php?search_artist=metallica&search_album=master+of+puppets

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Personally, for rock and metal, I wouldn't touch the LCD-2s, or any Audeze HPs, with a 10' cattle prod. Tesla T1s are decent, so are the RS1s, but my favorites are the HiFiMan HE-6s ($1299). Or, at least they're my favorites below $3,000. If they're too much, or the hardware requirements are too high, the HE-500s ($699) are a great bargain. Another interesting option is the Koss ESP/950s electrostats ($700-800), and that price includes amp. They're very, very fast with great mids and smooth, natural bass. They have very low distortion and excellent transient response, as well.

I had been eyeing the HE500 for quite a long time. I think it can really save me a lot of money since the T1 and HE-6 require a really expensive setup.

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I had been eyeing the HE500 for quite a long time. I think it can really save me a lot of money since the T1 and HE-6 require a really expensive setup.

A used 6 for about $8-900 and a decent speaker amp ($500) gets a hell of a system under $1500. A 500 with that same amp is even cheaper.
Edited by Happy Camper - 9/23/12 at 12:24pm
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I had been eyeing the HE500 for quite a long time. I think it can really save me a lot of money since the T1 and HE-6 require a really expensive setup.

Like I said, they're a great rock and metal choice. They do require an amp, but not anything that will break the bank. A nice SS or hybrid in the $300-400 range would be ideal.
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A used 6 for about $8-900 and a decent speaker amp ($500) gets a hell of a system under $1500. A 500 with that same amp is even cheaper.

What's a speaker amp? Is it those amps that you use with guitars? I already own a guitar amplifier, so can it be used with the HE-6 and will it make the HE-6 work to it's full potential just like a speaker amp would?

post #21 of 109
I don't know your guitar amp so I can't comment on it. Look at the threads for powering the HE-6 if that's your interest. They need more than a typical headphone amp. Those of us that have been investigating the needs of these cans have found quality speaker amps/receivers work better. Since that can be a 20 year old amp, the pricing is much less than buying a new headphone amp that won't handle what's needed.
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I don't know your guitar amp so I can't comment on it. Look at the threads for powering the HE-6 if that's your interest. They need more than a typical headphone amp. Those of us that have been investigating the needs of these cans have found quality speaker amps/receivers work better. Since that can be a 20 year old amp, the pricing is much less than buying a new headphone amp that won't handle what's needed.

What amp do you use with your he-6?
post #23 of 109
It's in the sig but I am currently using a pair of 125w monoblocks. Found on ebay, the last pair went for about $500. They were $750 each new in the 90s when I bought them.
post #24 of 109

+1 for LCD-2. They are a perfect match for rock and metal.

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I've said all I have to say. They smoke the T1s and RS1s for rock and they are not "laid back". Some who like overly bright then may say the are laid back, but IMO they certainly are the best for rock/metal in that price range.

When you had your T1's, what did you use them for predominately? The LCD's and AD2000's are the best I've heard for rock. But rock is so open-ended as a category that the multitude of variances under its heading opens up preferences for multiple headphones. For instance, I find Tom Waits and Elliot Smith well-suited to LCD's, while for The National and Sufjan Stevens, bands attentive and deliberate on evoking atmospherics, prefer the openness of AD2000's. As an overall I would take the LCD's, particularly when they're driven right. 

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When you had your T1's, what did you use them for predominately? The LCD's and AD2000's are the best I've heard for rock. But rock is so open-ended as a category that the multitude of variances under its heading opens up preferences for multiple headphones. For instance, I find Tom Waits and Elliot Smith well-suited to LCD's, while for The National and Sufjan Stevens, bands attentive and deliberate on evoking atmospherics, prefer the openness of AD2000's. As an overall I would take the LCD's, particularly when they're driven right. 

That was one great thing about the T1s, they worked great with rock, metal, jazz, classical...you name it. They were the one size fits all headphone. That said, I prefer the HD800s with classical/jazz and the LCD-3s with rock/metal/jazz. So they were no longer needed. Oh and I needed to clear some space and funds for my incoming SR009s this week. biggrin.gif

post #27 of 109
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Originally Posted by Magick Man View Post

Personally, for rock and metal, I wouldn't touch the LCD-2s, or any Audeze HPs, with a 10' cattle prod. Tesla T1s are decent, so are the RS1s, but my favorites are the HiFiMan HE-6s ($1299). Or, at least they're my favorites below $3,000. If they're too much, or the hardware requirements are too high, the HE-500s ($699) are a great bargain. Another interesting option is the Koss ESP/950s electrostats ($700-800), and that price includes amp. They're very, very fast with great mids and smooth, natural bass. They have very low distortion and excellent transient response, as well.

 

+1 to this. As a very big rock and metal fan and guitarist I have to say that I do not like my LCD-2s for metal. At all. I would never recommend them to anyone who has a strong interest in metal.

 

I like my RS1s for metal, but haven't got the other headphones mentioned here to comment on them (except to say that the HE-6 now has my attention).

 

I do have the T5p and like them for rock and metal too, so would expect the T1s would be reasonable for these genres too.

 

Depending on how much the soundstage influences you the GS1000i might be worth thinking about, I like mine with rock and metal and for soundstage it trounces the RS1.

post #28 of 109

I'd say the LCD-2 would only fit some people's need for rock and metal. In my opinion, It is way too slow and laid back for the rock and metal genre. I would suggest Grado headphones like the RS1 and  PS500

post #29 of 109
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I'd say the LCD-2 would only fit some people's need for rock and metal. In my opinion, It is way too slow and laid back for the rock and metal genre. I would suggest Grado headphones like the RS1 and  PS500

Not being a big fan of metal I cannot comment, but the LCD's spank every RS1 I've ever owned (RS1 with buttons and RS1i) with rock. Occasionally there is an album that the RS1 does very well with and even exceeds the LCD's with great guitar energy, but predominately they're in quite a different league in my opinion. It took a great deal of time and effort to find the proper synergistic match for the LCD's, but boy has it paid off (they are no place near slow and are far more transparent than RS1's). My HE6 out of Marantz 2285 is also phenomenal with certain varieties of indie rock and again are a step or even two above the RS1 in my opinion. 


Edited by ericfarrell85 - 10/25/12 at 12:27am
post #30 of 109

I really have to disagree. While it depends a lot in what kind of metal you are listening to, I find it the LCD-2 excellent for metal and rock music. It has a deep, punching bass with very clear mids and smooth highs. It is definitely a matter of taste though, as the LCD-2 is quite dark, but I like it.

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