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Poll Results: Which one would you choose?

 
  • 25% (21)
    Yulong D-18/D-8
  • 29% (24)
    Shiit Gungnir
  • 4% (4)
    Woo WDS-1
  • 19% (16)
    Wyred4Sound DAC-1/2
  • 16% (13)
    Audiolab M-DAC
  • 3% (3)
    Cambridge DacMagic +
81 Total Votes  
post #16 of 42

I'm in the market as well for a balanced DAC.  However, one of it's inputs has to be a AES / EBU.  I don't really care about USB..

 

Did the NFB 7.1 get re named to the NFB 7.32?

 

Also how about these -

 

Lavry DA11:

http://www.lavryengineering.com/products/hi-fi/da11.html

 

Stockholm by Mhdt Laboratory:

http://dhost.info/mhdtlab/stockholm%20balanced.htm

post #17 of 42
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post

I'm in the market as well for a balanced DAC.  However, one of it's inputs has to be a AES / EBU.  I don't really care about USB..

 

Did the NFB 7.1 get re named to the NFB 7.32?

 

 

the ".32" is from the new USB input that scraps the Tenor one- the rest is the same I believe

post #18 of 42

Yep - great time to be in the market for a 21st century DAC! I'll be using my 'long in the tooth' Transporter as a front end, so I will probably go with the Gungnir once I see some reviews. I think that SPDIF from the Transporter would sound very good with some good clocking etc. I have my old MSB Link DAC lll hooked up to it now. That sucker is REALLY long in the tooth!
 

post #19 of 42

i am waiting for gungnir reviews to come out.  especially interested how it would go vs the ref5. my next dac will be one of these.
 

post #20 of 42
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by IEMCrazy View Post

Had to place a vote for the Woo

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I ended up choosing the gungnir

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Originally Posted by preproman View Post

Lavry DA11:

http://www.lavryengineering.com/products/hi-fi/da11.html

 

Stockholm by Mhdt Laboratory:

http://dhost.info/mhdtlab/stockholm%20balanced.htm

 

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post #21 of 42

Completely shocking.

post #22 of 42
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Completely shocking.

 

 

What??

post #23 of 42

LOL. The results of the poll.

post #24 of 42
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Originally Posted by paradoxper View Post

LOL. The results of the poll.

 

 

You think so?   The Schitt is hot right now.

post #25 of 42
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You think so?   The Schitt is hot right now.

I am surprised by the DAC2 results. And looking at the interest (or seemingly so) of the Gungnir thread, it doesn't feel very active. Comparatively to the Mjolnir thread.

post #26 of 42

O I C   I wonder how many people ordered both.

post #27 of 42
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I am surprised by the DAC2 results. And looking at the interest (or seemingly so) of the Gungnir thread, it doesn't feel very active. Comparatively to the Mjolnir thread.

 

The Yulong and DacMagic+ are the results that surprise me....FOTM is Schiit this month. bigsmile_face.gif

 

Gungnir may not be attractive next to Mjolnir...but DACs are never attractive next to amps, they're just magic black (silver?) boxes that aren't as interesting to most as big glowing amps with knobs and buttons and dials and lights.  So for a DAC it's popular.

 

I mean really, who reads Stereophile for reviews on CDPs?  Everyone flips to the amps and speakers!

post #28 of 42
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Originally Posted by IEMCrazy View Post

 

The Yulong and DacMagic+ are the results that surprise me....FOTM is Schiit this month. bigsmile_face.gif

 

Gungnir may not be attractive next to Mjolnir...but DACs are never attractive next to amps, they're just magic black (silver?) boxes that aren't as interesting to most as big glowing amps with knobs and buttons and dials and lights.  So for a DAC it's popular.

 

I mean really, who reads Stereophile for reviews on CDPs?  Everyone flips to the amps and speakers!

I actually believe the DAC2 to be FOTM. But that's just personally, it's pretty boring, yet tons of people have it.

 

I guess you bring up a good point. But I do wish Gungnir would be true flavor of the month, blow up big, have tons of posts, just be interesting.

OTOH I wish the same for the Woo, it's kind of scary possibly getting a DAC only 2 people have ever commented on. haha.

post #29 of 42
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I actually believe the DAC2 to be FOTM. But that's just personally, it's pretty boring, yet tons of people have it.

 

I guess you bring up a good point. But I do wish Gungnir would be true flavor of the month, blow up big, have tons of posts, just be interesting.

OTOH I wish the same for the Woo, it's kind of scary possibly getting a DAC only 2 people have ever commented on. haha.

I don't think it's so much that "DAC2 is FOTM" as much as "Sabre is FOTY."   Every Sabre based DAC kind of explodes as a big phenomenon.  The PC crowd eats it up..."ooh it's this super all digital processing engine, and it has that name brand super chip in it that's the best there is that does all kinds of resampling to 32 of the bits so it's betterz for my gamez!" rolleyes.gif

 

I haven't seen many references to any Sabre based DAC where those who have compared it to others, yourself included, haven't mentioned that Sabre just has "a sound."  To me that's a very bad sign when talking about $1-2k DACs.  It could be just an artifact from resampling, and some my find it desirable...I've heard references about a "smoothness" with the SRC resampling to 24/96, so I can experiment that whenever those things start shipping...(that's only if resampling is on...on there it's configurable.)

 

 

Oh I think Gungnir is definitely a FOTM, just not a hyped, passing one...it's already dominating a lot of DAC discussion.  Schiit has strong appeal, and their price is right so it's hard for it to not do so.  The other DAC that I think is more a passing FOTM is the NAD M51.  It's an impressive piece, the only one of its kind, but whether that translates to being truly better than any other $1k-2k DAC is hard to say, and it's pushing that upper limit of $2k.  IT has more features and inputs certainly, but in terms of raw performance, I'd be curious to A/B it.  Part of me says the idea of not actually doing an D/A stage has to be good, no delta-sigma, no analog conversion, all 1-bit class-D straight to the outputs.  The other part of me says "some people hate class-D much for the same reasons as Sabre: It has a "sound."  Incidentally I'm still betting that the Schiit Statement will be something like the NAD M51...no D/A,, presumably all class-D. Just my theory.

 

The Woo...I don't think we'll see that as an FOTM.  It's also newer than I thought so it's gaining traction, but it doesn't have the right ingredients for a FOTM DAC.  It has no hyper-marketable brand name tech inside to make the PC folks dump huge money on it because "it has the new chip!", it doesn't have a force of personality like the Stoddard Wall of Awesome pushing it from behind, and at $1200 the price isn't right to lure people into it who aren't looking for it.  On the other hand, it's gorgeous redface.gif  Really, when was the last time any Woo piece was an FOTM?  It's better that way.  Good, well made, well performing, beautiful gear that's kind of timeless,, but is never marketable for a current "trend."   Though I suspect the $10k monoblocks will become a niche FOTM in the HE-6 thread rolleyes.gif

post #30 of 42
The Wavelength gear fits the bill. The Proton or Brick. I'm still leaning to building an Audio Note kit.
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