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Poll Results: Is there any hope for this plug?

 
  • 51% (29)
    Screw this plug.
  • 48% (27)
    I've got high hopes for it, it isn't that bad.
56 Total Votes  
post #31 of 91

Wow thanks scootermafia!  I know a lot of other tech sites have been wondering what the heck is inside these cables.  

post #32 of 91

UPDATE -  I'm now thinking the info here is correct
http://brockerhoff.net/blog/2012/09/23/boom-pins/

Which basically states that Apple is using a special active diff line
driver circuit, powered by the attached USB Type A Host device (typically a PC or Mac
USB 2.0 port)

 

The devices which need an Authentification IC chip are those third party hardware devices which provide a direct Lighting connection and must go through the Apple mFI developer approval process.

 

But it would appear for most users needs, Apple is making a suitable adapter.

 

More info here:

http://createdigitalmusic.com/2012/09/iphone-5-audio-accessories-compatible-some-require-adapters-ik-line-6-official-word/#more-25568


Edited by Elantric - 9/27/12 at 10:56am
post #33 of 91

I uploaded a sharper photo of how to connect the USB wires to the lightning cable chip. Quite possibly one of the first custom Lightning cables in the world? Hah. :)

post #34 of 91
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Quite possibly one of the first custom Lightning cables in the world? Hah. :)

Already beat you to it. biggrin.gif

 

 

 

 

 

 

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post #35 of 91
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Already beat you to it. biggrin.gif

 

 

 

 

 

 


Gee that's real nice but would it be possible to give both those connectors a right angle so the cable itself isn't jutting out waiting to hook onto something? You know, maybe something more along the lines of the Fiio L9.

post #36 of 91

Something similar to my older one, pictured here, would indeed be possible.

 

 

 

Picture taken by a customer.


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post #37 of 91

That is the kind of thing I would be after.

 

Kind of like the cable for my Fostex hp_p1.

 

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post #38 of 91

Well, whether or not it is an authentication chip in the cable, it certainly will not work with just any dac. I bought a usb to micro adapter to try with a non Apple authenticated dac and no dice. So I'm guessing the lightning to 30 pin adapter will have usb audio locked too.

post #39 of 91
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Boy, that was a hail mary play right there.  

 

What I've learned recently is that the Chinese are having great difficulty producing these plugs illicitly (Apple hasn't authorized anyone to make them yet, and is holding a powwow in November to get factories on board with their MFi program) and some have given up for now.  Leading some amazon and eBay third-partiers to refund their customers orders.  Some suppliers are putting up pictures of the inside of Thunderbolt cables (LOL) or have a pile of Apple cables photographed to make it look like they have stock, but realistically it'll be December/January before we start seeing third party Lightning accessories - unless one factory makes a huge breakthrough and is also willing to get harassed by Apple, since this is not a "dumb" dock connector anymore and you need Apple's licensing to produce it.  

 

The 30 pin adapter is going to have pins 3,4, and 11 tied to 15 being R, L, G just like any other LOD that you can buy right now.  So you'll be able to make your own "LOD" by routing a cable into this adapter and soldering it to the right places.


Edited by scootermafia - 10/6/12 at 10:29am
post #40 of 91
all this complication just so they can get richer on cables. Thanks for info Scooter
post #41 of 91
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Looks like I'm famous now.

I bet that got your brand out there! tongue.gif
post #42 of 91

Not too sure if this is the right thread to post but today we attempted a to hook up an iPhone 5 to a standard USB DAC/Amp (TTVJ's new Apex Glacier actually). The connector used was the Apple Lighting MicroUSB adapter (the EU version), and VentureCraft's MIcroUSB<->MicroUSB cable. The VentureCraft cable works fine for the Samsung Galaxy S3 Android so presumably a straight pass-through cable.

 

However in attempting the iPhone 5 setup with the Lighting MicroUSB adapter, it didn't work. The iPhone 5 didn't recognise the Apex Glacier at all (nothing appeared in the Settings->General->About) but at the same time playing music didn't come out from the iPhone speakers so I guess it was attempting to redirect audio out somewhere else.

Anyway here's a pic of the cable setup we were trying :-

 

 

post #43 of 91
thanks for info Anak
post #44 of 91

Low profile Lightning cable, for the AlgoRhythm Solo-DB,

Gold plated USB and Lightning connector.

 


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post #45 of 91
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Low profile Lightning cable, for the AlgoRhythm Solo-DB,

Gold plated USB and Lightning connector.

 

 

Why does yours work and my attempted concoction didn't :p?? Admittedly was trying with a standard USB DAC/Amp (Glacier) instead of something like the CLAS -db (iDevice & USB DAC). Will be checking your cable prices soon after ;-).

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