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Lynx Hilo: Any opinions on the Headphone amplifier of the Lynx Hilo?

post #1 of 18
Thread Starter 

Any opinions on the Headphone amplifier of the Lynx Hilo?  Any other users of the Hilo on this forum?

 

The Lynx Hilo scored top of the list on Pro-Audio forum gearslutz when compared to other high end Pro-Audio A/D D/A converters. 

 

http://www.gearslutz.com/board/8268185-post154.html

 

I've been using the Hilo for several weeks now with great results.  The built in headphone amplifier sounds amazing with multiple headphones.  More details soon.  I partially referred to the Hilo in this thread.

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/437390/spl-phonitor-roll-call-appreciation-thread/450#post_8713933

 

I will give a more complete review.  As mentioned in the thread above, I will compare the Hilo headphone amplifier with the SPL Phonitor headphone amplifier. 

 

Take care,

Rich

post #2 of 18

Brings life and emotion to Sennheiser HD 800

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by rxs0 View Post

Any opinions on the Headphone amplifier of the Lynx Hilo?  Any other users of the Hilo on this forum?

[...]

 

My first impressions based on a  demo in a demo room lasting approx. 5 hours:

 

Source, DAC and headphone amplifier:

  • Windows 7 + foobar2000 -> USB -> Lynx Hilo
  • Lynx Hilo -> digital -> Grace Design m903
  • Lynx Hilo -> digital -> Benchmark DAC1 HDR

 

Each was used as both DAC and headphone amplifier. "digital means either RCA S/PDIF or Toslink". I think Grace Design was fed with Toslink.

 

Headphones:

  • Sennheiser HD 800 with all three
  • Sennheiser HD 650 only with Grace Design m903, and for the first 1-1.5 hours

 

Lynx Hilo, Benchmark DAC1 HDR, Sennheiser HD 800, and Sennheiser HD 650 belonged to the demo company. State of run in unknown to me. Grace Design m903 belongs to me and has been run in and in use for 1 3/4 years.

 

Lynx Hilo: April 2012 firm ware and Windows driver v. 1.55

 

Music: Varied and well known to me.

 

Important notice: I listen at (very) moderate loudness levels, many would (probably) call them (very) low.

 

Sennheiser HD 650 was very nice with Grace Design m903. My thought about the HD 650 during/after the session was "So that's what all the fuzz is about". For comparison: The day before I tried Audeze LCD2.2 bamboo with the same PC and USB to Grace Design m903. My thought during/after the session was "What's all the fuzz about?" and "Much Ado About Nothing".

 

Denon AH-D7000 is very good with Grace Design m903 by the way, and it's also been very good as a DAC for STAX SR-009 + STAX SRM-007t.

 

Unfortunately I haven't been as a happy with Sennheiser HD 800 which I've experienced hasn't involved nor moved me. It has more or less left me as a (distant) observer instead of taking hold of and moving me. It has what we in Norwegian refer to as low or lacking goose bumps factor (Norwegian: gåsehudfaktor). Ditto for toe tapping, head bopping and body movement factor. I've hence earlier asked on the Norwegian forum Hifisentralen whether the HD 800 might be emotionally handicapped. Not everyone was happy with me even asking the question, even though I actually also at the same time asked whether anyone had suggestions for headphone amplifiers that might remedy this problem. Unfortunately I didn't get any good suggestions.

 

I got curious about the Lynx Hilo for different reasons. Sennheiser HD 800 was used for the demo because it was a headphone I own that was available at the demo company. I had also hoped for a beyerdynamic T 1, but it wasn't available, and I couldn't travel across the country carrying a lot of stuff.

 

The Lynx Hilo did good things for Sennheiser HD 800 (and me). Suddenly HD 800 could rock, roll, boogie, move me and more. It even had soul. There was toe tapping, head and body movement. Whenever I connected it to Grace Design m903 or Benchmark DAC1 HDR, the wish to move etc. subsided or vanished. I am so far not sure what factors are the source of this, but it was repeatable. The combination did well with any music I tried, new and old, good and "rusty" recordings, even severe loudness war victims like Duffy's "Rockferry" and The Seatsniffers' "Assembly Line".

 

I found this very attractive and enjoyable. At last, something that can give life and emotion to Sennheiser HD 800.

post #3 of 18
I"m using the Hilo and the T-1 to very good results. Very detailed without sounding clinical. The Hilo's hp amp holds up well against other ss amps I've listened to in SE mode. Plenty of bass impact without being overbearing. I like my SP hp amp better but it's a tube amp that cost more than the Hilo. But for convenience, you lose no performance using Hilo's hp amp. Plenty of power for dynamic headphones.
post #4 of 18

The following may be of interest. It's from a Norwegian forum (Hifisentralen), but some of the text is in English:


Edited by CDWMcInSpots - 2/1/13 at 1:02pm
post #5 of 18
I am currently using the HE-4 on the headphone amp. They take everything the headphone out has to give it but play at a moderately loud level with no distortion. I've heard better amps for the 6, 5, 4. The 500, 400 & 300 will all play well off of it.
post #6 of 18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CDWMcInSpots View Post

The following may be of interest. It's from a Norwegian forum (Hifisentralen), but some of the text is in English:

 

In the same thread you will find "Lynx Hilo og HiFiMAN HE-6" and "Lynx Hilo og Audeze LCD2.2, samt hodetelefon + hodetelefonforsterkerberegninger" with Lynx Hilo headphone amplifier SPL calculations for these headphones.

 

Further out you will find a headphone specification look up table for all headphone impedances 16-700 Ω starting with "Hodetelefonforsterkerspesifikasjoner: Oppslagstabell: 16-200 Ω".

 

Prior to that you will find more information about the wireless remote control in "Fjernkontroll: Under utvikling, men Lynx ønsker forslag og innspill". Lynx Studio Technology cofounder and chief software engineer David A. Hoatson asks for input as to what functionality we would like to see in any remote control capability.
 

Some of the text is in English, the numbers probably will be understandable anyway.For the rest use Google Translate or similar if you don't read/understand written Norwegian, Danish, nor Swedish.

post #7 of 18
You are a technical fountain of knowledge. But in the case of the HE-6, numbers are misleading compared to performance. I'll not make judgment until my 6s are back. What the HE 4 shows though is that you can drive the headphone amp to max without distortion by trimming the input volume a touch. I had a very enjoyable evening with the HE-4s with enough extra power to handle the exciting parts without influence.
post #8 of 18
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Originally Posted by Happy Camper View Post

You are a technical fountain of knowledge. [...]

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post #9 of 18
Noone else have anything to share about the Hilo?
Hoping to audition one for my HD800 and as a DAC for SR-009 next week some time...
post #10 of 18
Worked fine in windows7 after driver installation, going to try it on mountain lion tonight, however it doesn't play well with ubuntu linux 12.10, not by default anyway... On the off chance anyone has some pointers I'll put some extra info in spoilers below: dmesg/system info (Click to show)
Code:
$ uname -a
Linux antapex 3.5.0-24-generic #37-Ubuntu SMP Thu Feb 7 01:50:30 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

$ dpkg -l | grep 'alsa-'
ii  alsa-base                                 1.0.25+dfsg-0ubuntu3                                all          ALSA driver configuration files
ii  alsa-utils                                1.0.25-3ubuntu2.1                                   amd64        Utilities for configuring and using ALSA

$ dmesg
##snip##
[93930.525040] usb 2-1.5: new high-speed USB device number 11 using ehci_hcd
[93931.017538] usb 2-1.5: New USB device found, idVendor=247f, idProduct=3231
[93931.017545] usb 2-1.5: New USB device strings: Mfr=28, Product=27, SerialNumber=1
[93931.017549] usb 2-1.5: Product: Lynx Hilo
[93931.017552] usb 2-1.5: Manufacturer: Lynx
[93931.017555] usb 2-1.5: SerialNumber: 321244XXXX
[93931.018421] __uac_clock_find_source(): selector reported illegal value, id 40, ret 6
[93931.018427] parse_audio_format_rates_v2(): unable to find clock source (clock -22)
[93931.018789] __uac_clock_find_source(): selector reported illegal value, id 40, ret 6
[93931.019037] __uac_clock_find_source(): selector reported illegal value, id 40, ret 6
[93931.019042] parse_audio_format_rates_v2(): unable to find clock source (clock -22)
[93931.073272] __uac_clock_find_source(): selector reported illegal value, id 40, ret 6
lsusb verbose output (Click to show)
Code:
# lsusb -v -d 247f:3231

Bus 002 Device 011: ID 247f:3231  
Device Descriptor:
  bLength                18
  bDescriptorType         1
  bcdUSB               2.00
  bDeviceClass          239 Miscellaneous Device
  bDeviceSubClass         2 ?
  bDeviceProtocol         1 Interface Association
  bMaxPacketSize0        64
  idVendor           0x247f 
  idProduct          0x3231 
  bcdDevice           10.00
  iManufacturer          28 Lynx
  iProduct               27 Lynx Hilo
  iSerial                 1 321244XXXX
  bNumConfigurations      2
  Configuration Descriptor:
    bLength                 9
    bDescriptorType         2
    wTotalLength          341
    bNumInterfaces          6
    bConfigurationValue     1
    iConfiguration          0 
    bmAttributes         0x40
      (Missing must-be-set bit!)
      Self Powered
    MaxPower                0mA
    Interface Association:
      bLength                 8
      bDescriptorType        11
      bFirstInterface         0
      bInterfaceCount         3
      bFunctionClass          1 Audio
      bFunctionSubClass       0 
      bFunctionProtocol      32 
      iFunction               0 
    Interface Descriptor:
      bLength                 9
      bDescriptorType         4
      bInterfaceNumber        0
      bAlternateSetting       0
      bNumEndpoints           1
      bInterfaceClass         1 Audio
      bInterfaceSubClass      1 Control Device
      bInterfaceProtocol     32 
      iInterface              0 
      AudioControl Interface Descriptor:
        bLength                 9
        bDescriptorType        36
        bDescriptorSubtype      1 (HEADER)
        bcdADC               2.00
        bCategory               8
        wTotalLength           83
        bmControl            0x00
      AudioControl Interface Descriptor:
        bLength                 8
        bDescriptorType        36
        bDescriptorSubtype     10 (CLOCK_SOURCE)
        bClockID               47
        bmAttributes         0x03 Internal programmable Clock 
        bmControls           0x07
          Clock Frequency Control (read/write)
          Clock Validity Control (read-only)
        bAssocTerminal          0
        iClockSource            2 Hilo Clock Source
      AudioControl Interface Descriptor:
        bLength                 8
        bDescriptorType        36
        bDescriptorSubtype     11 (CLOCK_SELECTOR)
        bUnitID                40
        bNrInPins               1
        baCSourceID( 0)        47
        bmControls           0x01
          Clock Selector Control (read-only)
        iClockSelector          9 Clock Selector
      AudioControl Interface Descriptor:
        bLength                17
        bDescriptorType        36
        bDescriptorSubtype      2 (INPUT_TERMINAL)
        bTerminalID             2
        wTerminalType      0x0101 USB Streaming
        bAssocTerminal          0
        bCSourceID             40
        bNrChannels            16
        bmChannelConfig   0x00000000
        bmControls    0x0000
        iChannelNames          11 Hilo USB Play 1
        iTerminal              27 Lynx Hilo
      AudioControl Interface Descriptor:
        bLength                12
        bDescriptorType        36
        bDescriptorSubtype      3 (OUTPUT_TERMINAL)
        bTerminalID            20
        wTerminalType      0x0301 Speaker
        bAssocTerminal          0
        bSourceID               2
        bCSourceID             40
        bmControls         0x0000
        iTerminal               0 
      AudioControl Interface Descriptor:
        bLength                17
        bDescriptorType        36
        bDescriptorSubtype      2 (INPUT_TERMINAL)
        bTerminalID             1
        wTerminalType      0x0201 Microphone
        bAssocTerminal          0
        bCSourceID             40
        bNrChannels            16
        bmChannelConfig   0x00000000
        bmControls    0x0000
        iChannelNames          29 Hilo USB Record 1
        iTerminal               0 
      AudioControl Interface Descriptor:
        bLength                12
        bDescriptorType        36
        bDescriptorSubtype      3 (OUTPUT_TERMINAL)
        bTerminalID            22
        wTerminalType      0x0101 USB Streaming
        bAssocTerminal          0
        bSourceID               1
        bCSourceID             40
        bmControls         0x0000
        iTerminal              27 Lynx Hilo
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x84  EP 4 IN
        bmAttributes            3
          Transfer Type            Interrupt
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0006  1x 6 bytes
        bInterval               8
    Interface Descriptor:
      bLength                 9
      bDescriptorType         4
      bInterfaceNumber        1
      bAlternateSetting       0
      bNumEndpoints           0
      bInterfaceClass         1 Audio
      bInterfaceSubClass      2 Streaming
      bInterfaceProtocol     32 
      iInterface              0 
    Interface Descriptor:
      bLength                 9
      bDescriptorType         4
      bInterfaceNumber        1
      bAlternateSetting       1
      bNumEndpoints           2
      bInterfaceClass         1 Audio
      bInterfaceSubClass      2 Streaming
      bInterfaceProtocol     32 
      iInterface              0 
      AudioStreaming Interface Descriptor:
        bLength                16
        bDescriptorType        36
        bDescriptorSubtype      1 (AS_GENERAL)
        bTerminalLink           2
        bmControls           0x00
        bFormatType             1
        bmFormats               1
          PCM
        bNrChannels            16
        bmChannelConfig   0x00000000
        iChannelNames          11 Hilo USB Play 1
      AudioStreaming Interface Descriptor:
        bLength                 6
        bDescriptorType        36
        bDescriptorSubtype      2 (FORMAT_TYPE)
        bFormatType             1 (FORMAT_TYPE_I)
        bSubslotSize            4
        bBitResolution         24
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x01  EP 1 OUT
        bmAttributes            5
          Transfer Type            Isochronous
          Synch Type               Asynchronous
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0400  1x 1024 bytes
        bInterval               1
        AudioControl Endpoint Descriptor:
          bLength                 8
          bDescriptorType        37
          bDescriptorSubtype      1 (EP_GENERAL)
          bmAttributes         0x00
          bmControls           0x00
          bLockDelayUnits         2 Decoded PCM samples
          wLockDelay              8
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x81  EP 1 IN
        bmAttributes           17
          Transfer Type            Isochronous
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Feedback
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0004  1x 4 bytes
        bInterval               4
    Interface Descriptor:
      bLength                 9
      bDescriptorType         4
      bInterfaceNumber        2
      bAlternateSetting       0
      bNumEndpoints           0
      bInterfaceClass         1 Audio
      bInterfaceSubClass      2 Streaming
      bInterfaceProtocol     32 
      iInterface              0 
    Interface Descriptor:
      bLength                 9
      bDescriptorType         4
      bInterfaceNumber        2
      bAlternateSetting       1
      bNumEndpoints           1
      bInterfaceClass         1 Audio
      bInterfaceSubClass      2 Streaming
      bInterfaceProtocol     32 
      iInterface              0 
      AudioStreaming Interface Descriptor:
        bLength                16
        bDescriptorType        36
        bDescriptorSubtype      1 (AS_GENERAL)
        bTerminalLink          22
        bmControls           0x00
        bFormatType             1
        bmFormats               1
          PCM
        bNrChannels            16
        bmChannelConfig   0x00000000
        iChannelNames          29 Hilo USB Record 1
      AudioStreaming Interface Descriptor:
        bLength                 6
        bDescriptorType        36
        bDescriptorSubtype      2 (FORMAT_TYPE)
        bFormatType             1 (FORMAT_TYPE_I)
        bSubslotSize            4
        bBitResolution         24
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x82  EP 2 IN
        bmAttributes            5
          Transfer Type            Isochronous
          Synch Type               Asynchronous
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0400  1x 1024 bytes
        bInterval               1
        AudioControl Endpoint Descriptor:
          bLength                 8
          bDescriptorType        37
          bDescriptorSubtype      1 (EP_GENERAL)
          bmAttributes         0x00
          bmControls           0x00
          bLockDelayUnits         2 Decoded PCM samples
          wLockDelay              8
    Interface Descriptor:
      bLength                 9
      bDescriptorType         4
      bInterfaceNumber        3
      bAlternateSetting       0
      bNumEndpoints           0
      bInterfaceClass         1 Audio
      bInterfaceSubClass      1 Control Device
      bInterfaceProtocol      0 
      iInterface              0 
      AudioControl Interface Descriptor:
        bLength                 9
        bDescriptorType        36
        bDescriptorSubtype      1 (HEADER)
        bcdADC               1.00
        wTotalLength            9
        bInCollection           1
        baInterfaceNr( 0)       1
    Interface Descriptor:
      bLength                 9
      bDescriptorType         4
      bInterfaceNumber        4
      bAlternateSetting       0
      bNumEndpoints           2
      bInterfaceClass         1 Audio
      bInterfaceSubClass      3 MIDI Streaming
      bInterfaceProtocol      0 
      iInterface              0 
      MIDIStreaming Interface Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType        36
        bDescriptorSubtype      1 (HEADER)
        bcdADC               1.00
        wTotalLength           65
      MIDIStreaming Interface Descriptor:
        bLength                 6
        bDescriptorType        36
        bDescriptorSubtype      2 (MIDI_IN_JACK)
        bJackType               1 Embedded
        bJackID                 1
        iJack                   0 
      MIDIStreaming Interface Descriptor:
        bLength                 6
        bDescriptorType        36
        bDescriptorSubtype      2 (MIDI_IN_JACK)
        bJackType               2 External
        bJackID                 2
        iJack                  46 Hilo Virtual MIDI In
      MIDIStreaming Interface Descriptor:
        bLength                 9
        bDescriptorType        36
        bDescriptorSubtype      3 (MIDI_OUT_JACK)
        bJackType               1 Embedded
        bJackID                 3
        bNrInputPins            1
        baSourceID( 0)          2
        BaSourcePin( 0)         1
        iJack                   0 
      MIDIStreaming Interface Descriptor:
        bLength                 9
        bDescriptorType        36
        bDescriptorSubtype      3 (MIDI_OUT_JACK)
        bJackType               2 External
        bJackID                 4
        bNrInputPins            1
        baSourceID( 0)          1
        BaSourcePin( 0)         1
        iJack                  45 Hilo Virtual MIDI Out
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 9
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x02  EP 2 OUT
        bmAttributes            2
          Transfer Type            Bulk
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0200  1x 512 bytes
        bInterval               0
        bRefresh                0
        bSynchAddress           0
        MIDIStreaming Endpoint Descriptor:
          bLength                 5
          bDescriptorType        37
          bDescriptorSubtype      1 (GENERAL)
          bNumEmbMIDIJack         1
          baAssocJackID( 0)       1
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 9
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x83  EP 3 IN
        bmAttributes            2
          Transfer Type            Bulk
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0200  1x 512 bytes
        bInterval               0
        bRefresh                0
        bSynchAddress           0
        MIDIStreaming Endpoint Descriptor:
          bLength                 5
          bDescriptorType        37
          bDescriptorSubtype      1 (GENERAL)
          bNumEmbMIDIJack         1
          baAssocJackID( 0)       3
    Interface Descriptor:
      bLength                 9
      bDescriptorType         4
      bInterfaceNumber        5
      bAlternateSetting       0
      bNumEndpoints           0
      bInterfaceClass       254 Application Specific Interface
      bInterfaceSubClass      1 Device Firmware Update
      bInterfaceProtocol      0 
      iInterface             18 Hilo USB Play 8
      Device Firmware Upgrade Interface Descriptor:
        bLength                             7
        bDescriptorType                    33
        bmAttributes                        7
          Will Not Detach
          Manifestation Tolerant
          Upload Supported
          Download Supported
        wDetachTimeout                    250 milliseconds
        wTransferSize                      64 bytes
  Configuration Descriptor:
    bLength                 9
    bDescriptorType         2
    wTotalLength          341
    bNumInterfaces          6
    bConfigurationValue     1
    iConfiguration          0 
    bmAttributes         0x40
      (Missing must-be-set bit!)
      Self Powered
    MaxPower                0mA
    Interface Association:
      bLength                 8
      bDescriptorType        11
      bFirstInterface         0
      bInterfaceCount         3
      bFunctionClass          1 Audio
      bFunctionSubClass       0 
      bFunctionProtocol      32 
      iFunction               0 
    Interface Descriptor:
      bLength                 9
      bDescriptorType         4
      bInterfaceNumber        0
      bAlternateSetting       0
      bNumEndpoints           1
      bInterfaceClass         1 Audio
      bInterfaceSubClass      1 Control Device
      bInterfaceProtocol     32 
      iInterface              0 
      AudioControl Interface Descriptor:
        bLength                 9
        bDescriptorType        36
        bDescriptorSubtype      1 (HEADER)
        bcdADC               2.00
        bCategory               8
        wTotalLength           83
        bmControl            0x00
      AudioControl Interface Descriptor:
        bLength                 8
        bDescriptorType        36
        bDescriptorSubtype     10 (CLOCK_SOURCE)
        bClockID               47
        bmAttributes         0x03 Internal programmable Clock 
        bmControls           0x07
          Clock Frequency Control (read/write)
          Clock Validity Control (read-only)
        bAssocTerminal          0
        iClockSource            2 Hilo Clock Source
      AudioControl Interface Descriptor:
        bLength                 8
        bDescriptorType        36
        bDescriptorSubtype     11 (CLOCK_SELECTOR)
        bUnitID                40
        bNrInPins               1
        baCSourceID( 0)        47
        bmControls           0x01
          Clock Selector Control (read-only)
        iClockSelector          9 Clock Selector
      AudioControl Interface Descriptor:
        bLength                17
        bDescriptorType        36
        bDescriptorSubtype      2 (INPUT_TERMINAL)
        bTerminalID             2
        wTerminalType      0x0101 USB Streaming
        bAssocTerminal          0
        bCSourceID             40
        bNrChannels            16
        bmChannelConfig   0x00000000
        bmControls    0x0000
        iChannelNames          11 Hilo USB Play 1
        iTerminal              27 Lynx Hilo
      AudioControl Interface Descriptor:
        bLength                12
        bDescriptorType        36
        bDescriptorSubtype      3 (OUTPUT_TERMINAL)
        bTerminalID            20
        wTerminalType      0x0301 Speaker
        bAssocTerminal          0
        bSourceID               2
        bCSourceID             40
        bmControls         0x0000
        iTerminal               0 
      AudioControl Interface Descriptor:
        bLength                17
        bDescriptorType        36
        bDescriptorSubtype      2 (INPUT_TERMINAL)
        bTerminalID             1
        wTerminalType      0x0201 Microphone
        bAssocTerminal          0
        bCSourceID             40
        bNrChannels            16
        bmChannelConfig   0x00000000
        bmControls    0x0000
        iChannelNames          29 Hilo USB Record 1
        iTerminal               0 
      AudioControl Interface Descriptor:
        bLength                12
        bDescriptorType        36
        bDescriptorSubtype      3 (OUTPUT_TERMINAL)
        bTerminalID            22
        wTerminalType      0x0101 USB Streaming
        bAssocTerminal          0
        bSourceID               1
        bCSourceID             40
        bmControls         0x0000
        iTerminal              27 Lynx Hilo
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x84  EP 4 IN
        bmAttributes            3
          Transfer Type            Interrupt
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0006  1x 6 bytes
        bInterval               8
    Interface Descriptor:
      bLength                 9
      bDescriptorType         4
      bInterfaceNumber        1
      bAlternateSetting       0
      bNumEndpoints           0
      bInterfaceClass         1 Audio
      bInterfaceSubClass      2 Streaming
      bInterfaceProtocol     32 
      iInterface              0 
    Interface Descriptor:
      bLength                 9
      bDescriptorType         4
      bInterfaceNumber        1
      bAlternateSetting       1
      bNumEndpoints           2
      bInterfaceClass         1 Audio
      bInterfaceSubClass      2 Streaming
      bInterfaceProtocol     32 
      iInterface              0 
      AudioStreaming Interface Descriptor:
        bLength                16
        bDescriptorType        36
        bDescriptorSubtype      1 (AS_GENERAL)
        bTerminalLink           2
        bmControls           0x00
        bFormatType             1
        bmFormats               1
          PCM
        bNrChannels            16
        bmChannelConfig   0x00000000
        iChannelNames          11 Hilo USB Play 1
      AudioStreaming Interface Descriptor:
        bLength                 6
        bDescriptorType        36
        bDescriptorSubtype      2 (FORMAT_TYPE)
        bFormatType             1 (FORMAT_TYPE_I)
        bSubslotSize            4
        bBitResolution         24
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x01  EP 1 OUT
        bmAttributes            5
          Transfer Type            Isochronous
          Synch Type               Asynchronous
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0400  1x 1024 bytes
        bInterval               1
        AudioControl Endpoint Descriptor:
          bLength                 8
          bDescriptorType        37
          bDescriptorSubtype      1 (EP_GENERAL)
          bmAttributes         0x00
          bmControls           0x00
          bLockDelayUnits         2 Decoded PCM samples
          wLockDelay              8
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x81  EP 1 IN
        bmAttributes           17
          Transfer Type            Isochronous
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Feedback
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0004  1x 4 bytes
        bInterval               4
    Interface Descriptor:
      bLength                 9
      bDescriptorType         4
      bInterfaceNumber        2
      bAlternateSetting       0
      bNumEndpoints           0
      bInterfaceClass         1 Audio
      bInterfaceSubClass      2 Streaming
      bInterfaceProtocol     32 
      iInterface              0 
    Interface Descriptor:
      bLength                 9
      bDescriptorType         4
      bInterfaceNumber        2
      bAlternateSetting       1
      bNumEndpoints           1
      bInterfaceClass         1 Audio
      bInterfaceSubClass      2 Streaming
      bInterfaceProtocol     32 
      iInterface              0 
      AudioStreaming Interface Descriptor:
        bLength                16
        bDescriptorType        36
        bDescriptorSubtype      1 (AS_GENERAL)
        bTerminalLink          22
        bmControls           0x00
        bFormatType             1
        bmFormats               1
          PCM
        bNrChannels            16
        bmChannelConfig   0x00000000
        iChannelNames          29 Hilo USB Record 1
      AudioStreaming Interface Descriptor:
        bLength                 6
        bDescriptorType        36
        bDescriptorSubtype      2 (FORMAT_TYPE)
        bFormatType             1 (FORMAT_TYPE_I)
        bSubslotSize            4
        bBitResolution         24
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x82  EP 2 IN
        bmAttributes            5
          Transfer Type            Isochronous
          Synch Type               Asynchronous
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0400  1x 1024 bytes
        bInterval               1
        AudioControl Endpoint Descriptor:
          bLength                 8
          bDescriptorType        37
          bDescriptorSubtype      1 (EP_GENERAL)
          bmAttributes         0x00
          bmControls           0x00
          bLockDelayUnits         2 Decoded PCM samples
          wLockDelay              8
    Interface Descriptor:
      bLength                 9
      bDescriptorType         4
      bInterfaceNumber        3
      bAlternateSetting       0
      bNumEndpoints           0
      bInterfaceClass         1 Audio
      bInterfaceSubClass      1 Control Device
      bInterfaceProtocol      0 
      iInterface              0 
      AudioControl Interface Descriptor:
        bLength                 9
        bDescriptorType        36
        bDescriptorSubtype      1 (HEADER)
        bcdADC               1.00
        wTotalLength            9
        bInCollection           1
        baInterfaceNr( 0)       1
    Interface Descriptor:
      bLength                 9
      bDescriptorType         4
      bInterfaceNumber        4
      bAlternateSetting       0
      bNumEndpoints           2
      bInterfaceClass         1 Audio
      bInterfaceSubClass      3 MIDI Streaming
      bInterfaceProtocol      0 
      iInterface              0 
      MIDIStreaming Interface Descriptor:
        bLength                 7
        bDescriptorType        36
        bDescriptorSubtype      1 (HEADER)
        bcdADC               1.00
        wTotalLength           65
      MIDIStreaming Interface Descriptor:
        bLength                 6
        bDescriptorType        36
        bDescriptorSubtype      2 (MIDI_IN_JACK)
        bJackType               1 Embedded
        bJackID                 1
        iJack                   0 
      MIDIStreaming Interface Descriptor:
        bLength                 6
        bDescriptorType        36
        bDescriptorSubtype      2 (MIDI_IN_JACK)
        bJackType               2 External
        bJackID                 2
        iJack                  46 Hilo Virtual MIDI In
      MIDIStreaming Interface Descriptor:
        bLength                 9
        bDescriptorType        36
        bDescriptorSubtype      3 (MIDI_OUT_JACK)
        bJackType               1 Embedded
        bJackID                 3
        bNrInputPins            1
        baSourceID( 0)          2
        BaSourcePin( 0)         1
        iJack                   0 
      MIDIStreaming Interface Descriptor:
        bLength                 9
        bDescriptorType        36
        bDescriptorSubtype      3 (MIDI_OUT_JACK)
        bJackType               2 External
        bJackID                 4
        bNrInputPins            1
        baSourceID( 0)          1
        BaSourcePin( 0)         1
        iJack                  45 Hilo Virtual MIDI Out
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 9
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x02  EP 2 OUT
        bmAttributes            2
          Transfer Type            Bulk
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0200  1x 512 bytes
        bInterval               0
        bRefresh                0
        bSynchAddress           0
        MIDIStreaming Endpoint Descriptor:
          bLength                 5
          bDescriptorType        37
          bDescriptorSubtype      1 (GENERAL)
          bNumEmbMIDIJack         1
          baAssocJackID( 0)       1
      Endpoint Descriptor:
        bLength                 9
        bDescriptorType         5
        bEndpointAddress     0x83  EP 3 IN
        bmAttributes            2
          Transfer Type            Bulk
          Synch Type               None
          Usage Type               Data
        wMaxPacketSize     0x0200  1x 512 bytes
        bInterval               0
        bRefresh                0
        bSynchAddress           0
        MIDIStreaming Endpoint Descriptor:
          bLength                 5
          bDescriptorType        37
          bDescriptorSubtype      1 (GENERAL)
          bNumEmbMIDIJack         1
          baAssocJackID( 0)       3
    Interface Descriptor:
      bLength                 9
      bDescriptorType         4
      bInterfaceNumber        5
      bAlternateSetting       0
      bNumEndpoints           0
      bInterfaceClass       254 Application Specific Interface
      bInterfaceSubClass      1 Device Firmware Update
      bInterfaceProtocol      0 
      iInterface             18 Hilo USB Play 8
      Device Firmware Upgrade Interface Descriptor:
        bLength                             7
        bDescriptorType                    33
        bmAttributes                        7
          Will Not Detach
          Manifestation Tolerant
          Upload Supported
          Download Supported
        wDetachTimeout                    250 milliseconds
        wTransferSize                      64 bytes
Device Qualifier (for other device speed):
  bLength                10
  bDescriptorType         6
  bcdUSB               2.00
  bDeviceClass          239 Miscellaneous Device
  bDeviceSubClass         2 ?
  bDeviceProtocol         1 Interface Association
  bMaxPacketSize0        64
  bNumConfigurations      1
Device Status:     0x0000
  (Bus Powered)
#
aplay output (Click to show)
Code:
$ aplay -l
**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
card 1: Hilo [Lynx Hilo], device 0: USB Audio [USB Audio]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0

$ aplay -L
## snip##
sysdefault:CARD=Hilo
    Lynx Hilo, USB Audio
    Default Audio Device
front:CARD=Hilo,DEV=0
    Lynx Hilo, USB Audio
    Front speakers
surround40:CARD=Hilo,DEV=0
    Lynx Hilo, USB Audio
    4.0 Surround output to Front and Rear speakers
surround41:CARD=Hilo,DEV=0
    Lynx Hilo, USB Audio
    4.1 Surround output to Front, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
surround50:CARD=Hilo,DEV=0
    Lynx Hilo, USB Audio
    5.0 Surround output to Front, Center and Rear speakers
surround51:CARD=Hilo,DEV=0
    Lynx Hilo, USB Audio
    5.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
surround71:CARD=Hilo,DEV=0
    Lynx Hilo, USB Audio
    7.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Side, Rear and Woofer speakers
iec958:CARD=Hilo,DEV=0
    Lynx Hilo, USB Audio
    IEC958 (S/PDIF) Digital Audio Output
dmix:CARD=Hilo,DEV=0
    Lynx Hilo, USB Audio
    Direct sample mixing device
dsnoop:CARD=Hilo,DEV=0
    Lynx Hilo, USB Audio
    Direct sample snooping device
hw:CARD=Hilo,DEV=0
    Lynx Hilo, USB Audio
    Direct hardware device without any conversions
plughw:CARD=Hilo,DEV=0
    Lynx Hilo, USB Audio
    Hardware device with all software conversions
## snip ##

$

Other than that the headphone amp seems good, haven't spent more than a couple of hours of just casual listening to it yet...
Hoping to be able to do some critical listening and comparing it to a Benchmark DAC2 HGC and a MyTek Stereo192 sometime during the coming week.
post #11 of 18
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Originally Posted by CybDev View Post

Worked fine in windows7 after driver installation, going to try it on mountain lion tonight, however it doesn't play well with ubuntu linux 12.10, not by default anyway... On the off chance anyone has some pointers I'll put some extra info in spoilers below: [...]

 

You can write an e-mail to Lynx Studio Technology. They answer quickly and thoroughly when they're not on trips like trade shows.

 

I have only tried Windows 7 so far.

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by CybDev View Post

Other than that the headphone amp seems good, haven't spent more than a couple of hours of just casual listening to it yet...
Hoping to be able to do some critical listening and comparing it to a Benchmark DAC2 HGC and a MyTek Stereo192 sometime during the coming week.

 

Did you use your Sennheiser HD 800 for this?

post #12 of 18
Quote:
Originally Posted by CDWMcInSpots View Post

You can write an e-mail to Lynx Studio Technology. They answer quickly and thoroughly when they're not on trips like trade shows.

Yeah I basically reposted the info I gave here at their support forum
They didn't list a contact address except for sales.
I guess I could file a support ticket but I figure I'll let the support forum thread be up a while first before I attempt the process of registering for the ticket system...

Quote:
Originally Posted by CDWMcInSpots View Post

I have only tried Windows 7 so far.

Nice, I also just tested it on a MBP retina with mountain lion briefly, seemed to work just fine at least using default soundsystem and rdio.
Didn't have any flac around right now, but I will tonight :-)

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Originally Posted by CDWMcInSpots View Post

Did you use your Sennheiser HD 800 for this?

Yeah, and the SR-009's via SRM-323S.
post #13 of 18
The HE-500 are a very nice match for the headphone out of the Hilo. There is little to nothing to lose with my speaker amps. One of the better sounding pairings I've heard from the Hilo hp amp.
post #14 of 18

I'm half-way tempted to get the HILO just for the fake analog meters option. :)  However, I think I read somewhere on this forum that the HILO is fatiguing to listen to - too Pro-audio analytical and not enough audiophile musical in it's nature?  Currently using the E-MU 0404USB which is already pro-audio sounding and bright, so I don't want to end up with just a more expensive version of the same thing.  Or are there opinions to the contrary?

 

On a related note: does the HILO have any built-in parametric Equalization capabilities?

post #15 of 18
Quote:
Originally Posted by runswithaliens View Post

However, I think I read somewhere on this forum that the HILO is fatiguing to listen to - too Pro-audio analytical and not enough audiophile musical in it's nature?  Currently using the E-MU 0404USB which is already pro-audio sounding and bright, so I don't want to end up with just a more expensive version of the same thing.  Or are there opinions to the contrary?

 

I haven't heard E-MU 0404USB, but I do like my Lynx Hilo and Grace Design m903.

 

As usual I suppose this depends on your taste. Some audiophiles want sugar or even molasses added to the sound. Lynx Hilo and most other pro/studio equipment don't give you that. Their ideal is typically to be neutral/uncoloured etc. That doesn't automatically imply unpleasant or fatiguing, if you don't crave sugar, molasses, powder, perfume, etc. to the sound.

 

I have a feeling that this also may depend on the listener's preferred loudness level. People who listen at (very) high loudness levels may need some moderation, damping or sanding of the sound to make it bearable. Some times natural sound can be a bit to much, ie. percussion in a bare walled concrete room. Attending in door concerts or theatre I often find applause too intense for my ears (and plug them with my fingers).

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by runswithaliens View Post

On a related note: does the HILO have any built-in parametric Equalization capabilities?

 

As far as I know it doesn't, but I may be wrong.

 

As you probably know Lynx Hilo is highly programmable, and new features are regularly developed and put out through firmware updates (2 in 2012). Lynx have openly asked its Hilo users for feature ideas. I have equalization on my wish list, but haven't gotten around to write an e-mail to Lynx including that yet.

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