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My 2 cents.

Android is a complex world: so many devices, so many official and custom roms, so many kernels...

 

I think it would be really helpful to know what are the minimum hardware and software requirement that make a device compatible with the dac.

 

Yes: there is also an hardware problem or is only a software problem?

Many people about the USB OTG feature talk about that a specific Android distribution and/or a specific kernel is not enough because many devices don't supply energy via USB.

In this thread James said that E18 works with the internal battery, so my question is: perhaps this means that there are no impediments from the hardware side for ANY device?

 

The software side.

My dream is a "universal" patch that can be make many device compatible with the DAC, but I know that is impossible.

The sad point is also that root and flash a custom rom or kernel is not something to everyone.

It would be really useful detailed guides for the various devices, as they are tested.

 

Finally, I would ask James (if are reading) to upload soon the official manual on the download page of Fiio site (there will be also ASIO drivers for use with the PC?).

Thanks!

post #377 of 2236
The E18 is up on eBay.com now. It is the only result when searching "fiio e18" and is $249.99 +15 shipping for me. Also has or best offer, but my offer of 135 (135+15=150, the expected msrp in USA) was immediately declined (automatically based on a minimum offer amount entered at time of listing).

Further, it says USA shipments arrive in 10-12 business days. So this listing would arrive in early November, beating the targeted December launch in USA that James mentioned earlier. A hefty premium for 1 month early, and also the question of authorized dealer/warranty.
Edited by kayza - 10/24/13 at 4:29am
post #378 of 2236

Overpriced

post #379 of 2236
The Italian authorized seller told me yesterday that the shipment will be probably in 30 days. Price 159€ (but the price can be reduced to 145 with preorder).

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post #380 of 2236
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Originally Posted by carpler View Post

The Italian authorized seller told me

 

Audio Azimuth o play Stereo?


Edited by m-i-c-k-e-y - 10/24/13 at 5:10am
post #381 of 2236

R: Fiio E18

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Originally Posted by m-i-c-k-e-y View Post

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Originally Posted by carpler View Post

The Italian authorized seller told me

 

Audio Azimuth o play Stereo?


Is the same seller.

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post #382 of 2236
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Originally Posted by carpler View Post
 

My 2 cents.

Android is a complex world: so many devices, so many official and custom roms, so many kernels...

 

I think it would be really helpful to know what are the minimum hardware and software requirement that make a device compatible with the dac.

 

Yes: there is also an hardware problem or is only a software problem?

Many people about the USB OTG feature talk about that a specific Android distribution and/or a specific kernel is not enough because many devices don't supply energy via USB.

In this thread James said that E18 works with the internal battery, so my question is: perhaps this means that there are no impediments from the hardware side for ANY device?

 

The software side.

My dream is a "universal" patch that can be make many device compatible with the DAC, but I know that is impossible.

The sad point is also that root and flash a custom rom or kernel is not something to everyone.

It would be really useful detailed guides for the various devices, as they are tested.

 

Finally, I would ask James (if are reading) to upload soon the official manual on the download page of Fiio site (there will be also ASIO drivers for use with the PC?).

Thanks!

 

It's not possible. The OS has supported USB audio since Jelly Bean was launched, in AOSP. But they can't just say that all devices at 4.1 and up will work because you can't possibly know that. Android is open source, and while to be a part of the Open Handset Alliance, you have to keep the OS compatible to a point, you can still make pretty major revisions. Then there are manufacturers that make versions outside of that compatibility (those that don't have access out of the box to the Play Store). So if Fiio makes such a claim, and some OEM decides to pull it out of the OS for some reason (most likely unintentionally breaks it) suddenly that's on Fiio.

 

Most likely, this will work with any phone from HTC, LG, Sony, Motorola, Samsung, Asus, Garmin, Huawei, Sony, Toshiba, Dell, ZTE, and Acer (those members of the OHA that make handsets) that supports OTG and is on Jelly Bean. But hey, I am just some guy on a forum, so don't take my word for it. (Seriously, take anything someone says on a forum with a grain of salt)


Edited by reginalb - 10/24/13 at 5:44am
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So one of the reasons I'm looking at this is because my case and m50s do not play nicely... I could have just bought an extension with a smaller jack but I figure I may as well dip my toes into this world of portable audio.

Hopefully this comes out sooner rather than later!

Sent from my DROID, not the ones you're looking for.
post #384 of 2236

I didn't hear anything about FiiO releasing it? Last they told me was December.

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I didn't hear anything about FiiO releasing it? Last they told me was December.
December in USA, other (I think asian) markets earlier.
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December in USA, other (I think asian) markets earlier.

That may be right actually. Hmm

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Originally Posted by kayza View Post

December in USA, other (I think asian) markets earlier.

Checked with my local seller, according to him, it's not out yet... Just to update with guys hehe
post #388 of 2236

Yep, got confirmation from Fiio directly, it will be on Amazon (US) in December.  And if I understood correctly, it will retail for $159  - WOW!!!  That is a bargain!

post #389 of 2236

I'm seeing Fiio E18 in its official website:

http://www.fiio.com.cn/products/index.aspx?ID=100000049935442&MenuID=105026002

 

It says that E18 would work on any device with USB OTG function. Just what is USB OTG? It also says by means of Micro USB cable, so all android devices with Micro USB are supposed to work with it?

 

What about Android FTP/MTP connection? Some smartphones can only act as one.

post #390 of 2236
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Originally Posted by Anggrian View Post

I'm seeing Fiio E18 in its official website:
http://www.fiio.com.cn/products/index.aspx?ID=100000049935442&MenuID=105026002

It says that E18 would work on any device with USB OTG function. Just what is USB OTG? It also says by means of Micro USB cable, so all android devices with Micro USB are supposed to work with it?

What about Android FTP/MTP connection? Some smartphones can only act as one.

Read my and reginalb's discussion on pages 25 and 26. We covered this compatibility expectation not 48 hours ago. C'MON MAN! wink.gif
Edited by kayza - 10/24/13 at 11:10pm
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