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post #1876 of 1888
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Originally Posted by ClieOS View Post
 

 

No, it won't work because coax-out is, well, S/PDIF coax-out, and therefore it is a digital signal intended for another DAC.

 

On the other hand, if you plug the cable into the line-in / line-out jack (the one next to the headphone-out jack), it will works as just an DAC, as you wanted, to avoid double amping.

Thank you. And here I thought they were the same ports! So which means:

 

1. Source (Smartphone/DAP/PC dac) > line-in to E18 > headphone-out (E18 amp section will be used)

2. Source (Smartphone/DAP/PC) > usb/usb otg to E18  > line-out to external amp > headphone-out from external amp (E18 dac section only used)

3. Source (Smartphone/DAP/PC) > usb/usb otg to E18 > headphone-out (both E18's dac+amp will be used)

 

Is this correct?

 

Though I'm still a little confused by how can I utilise the S/PDIF coax-out port of the E18.

post #1877 of 1888
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Originally Posted by skingg View Post
 

Thank you. And here I thought they were the same ports! So which means:

 

1. Source (Smartphone/DAP/PC dac) > line-in to E18 > headphone-out (E18 amp section will be used)

2. Source (Smartphone/DAP/PC) > usb/usb otg to E18  > line-out to external amp > headphone-out from external amp (E18 dac section only used)

3. Source (Smartphone/DAP/PC) > usb/usb otg to E18 > headphone-out (both E18's dac+amp will be used)

 

Is this correct?

 

Though I'm still a little confused by how can I utilise the S/PDIF coax-out port of the E18.

 

Yes, those are correct.

 

You use the S/PDIF when you want to connect to, say a desktop DAC that doesn't support smartphone directly.

post #1878 of 1888

I apologise for my ignorance, but are the E12a and the E18 the same thing apart from the latter being a DAC - which I understand to mean that it can work with devices (like laptops) with a USB port?

post #1879 of 1888
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Originally Posted by NineToTheSky View Post
 

I apologise for my ignorance, but are the E12a and the E18 the same thing apart from the latter being a DAC - which I understand to mean that it can work with devices (like laptops) with a USB port?

 

E18 is intended as a headphone amp + USB DAC for smartphone, namely Android, but also works with PC and can be used as a standalone headphone amp.

 

E12A is intended to be the best sounding portable headphone amp FiiO has made so far.

 

So besides the difference in features, E12A is also noticeably better sounding than E18.

post #1880 of 1888
Thank you. It is quality I am looking for, so I will go for the E12a. I will be pairing it with my Samsung Galaxy Note Edge and my Westone W40. Would that be a good match?
post #1881 of 1888

@NineToTheSky

 

When you use the E18 via USB OTG with your Samsung, the DAC will be they high quality DAC of the E18 + its amp.

When you use the E12a, a pure AMP, you'll be using the DAC in your Samsung.

 

Personally I would advise the E18 then ... unless you'll also be using the AMP with other devices.

 

I use the E18 as DAC + Amp on my Samsung Galaxy S5, on my laptop and PC.

I use the E18 as AMP with my iPod (the very rare times I use the iPod)

 

 

Hope this can help,

 

Casper


Edited by CasperBxl - 3/6/15 at 8:49am
post #1882 of 1888

Thanks - that does make sense. Does the E18 make a notable difference?

post #1883 of 1888
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Originally Posted by NineToTheSky View Post

Thanks - that does make sense. Does the E18 make a notable difference?
I use the e18 with my Note 3 and find it sounds really good with decent quality files through a variety of cans. For the cost I don't think you'll find much better with the same degree of functionality. I've been very happy with mine. The only thing I can fault is the bass boost which is just one stage and imo muddies up the sound. It's quite a warm amp anyway and already cleans up and accentuates the bass slightly.
post #1884 of 1888
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Originally Posted by lawrecedent View Post


I use the e18 with my Note 3 and find it sounds really good with decent quality files through a variety of cans. For the cost I don't think you'll find much better with the same degree of functionality. I've been very happy with mine. The only thing I can fault is the bass boost which is just one stage and imo muddies up the sound. It's quite a warm amp anyway and already cleans up and accentuates the bass slightly.

 

+1

post #1885 of 1888
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Originally Posted by NineToTheSky View Post

Thanks - that does make sense. Does the E18 make a notable difference?
E18 made a big difference with my Droid Maxx. I had annoying EMI though and returned it
post #1886 of 1888
Sorry if I missed it somewhere. Any firmware updates to the E18? Bought mine last summer.
Thanks.
post #1887 of 1888

Has anyone actually A/B tested the E18 against the E17k yet? I recently got an E18 and I'm wondering how the sound signature of the new DAC chip in the E17k compares.

Thanks

post #1888 of 1888
I bought one to work with a newly purchased nexus 6.

It worked great

But I abandoned Android after a week and a half and went back to iPhone.

My portable rig now is

iPhone 6 plus
Onkyo HF player
Fiio e18 via usb / apple lightning camera accessory
Bose 20i headphones (I use the subway, busses and also fly for biz trips quite often)

I worked 25+ years as a career recording studio engineer (music) (and I use a Grace Designs 903 & Adam monitors in my office to play back hi res files at 192k 24bit) I have to say that the playback of hi res files via the e18 is very impressive (I love it)

Miles Davis Kind of Blue
Green Day
Nora Jones

All sound great

It's got headroom for days (so no chance of maxing out.) It's got so much power!

It also works great via my MacBook Air running Decibel to play hi res files.and is a huge leap up from the analog outs - even for using Spotify (highest quality) it's a real hike up in sound quality.

For a laptop / smart phone road warrior that can't be without music - it's definitely worth tossing in your shoulder bag. Seems to be bult like a tank too.

To me it's amazing for the price.

Great!
Edited by Pro-Jules - 4/11/15 at 5:12pm
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