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Allright. I don't mean the sound changes dramatically, but the sound has far less harshness and no loss of detail. People using Samsung android devices should try it. I have no experience with iphone/ipod or mac.
Edited by jstps - 8/10/14 at 7:20am
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Allright. I don't mean the sound changes dramatically, but the sound has far less harshness and no loss of detail. People using Samsung android devices should try it. I have no experience with iphone/ipod or mac.

The benefits would be less noise from the USB source or from RFI/EMI. Noise can interfere with one's ability to hear clearly, especially in the quieter passages. I had a Samsung GS3 and have since upgraded to a Galaxy Note 3. The E18 works with both but the RFI from the smartphone was not helped by ferrite beads. I have a bad feeling it's in the design of the E18 and its case. The best way I found to deal with this is not to sandwich the phone and E18, instead to keep them side by side. Not exactly convenient when on the road. One can always put the phone in airplane mode or turn off the cellphone radio, but then you can't stream music or receive calls. That would suck. I can keep them side by in my carry bag. Not a viable solution for use in a pocket.

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I wonder if this problem has anything to do with the specific phone processor. It seems all the problems I've read are from those using the Snapdragon whereas I've yet to hear anyone who's using the Exynos processor have g the same problems. I have zero issues with my Exynos SGN3.
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Hi,

 

what was the problem you were having with the E18?

 

I have 2 problem:

 

it will not charge my Samsung Galaxy S3 or S4

it drains the battery on the phone very quickly when in use.

 

otherwise it's an excellent piece of Kit, sounds great with AKG 550's and FLAC encoded music.

 

I also hear is going end of life.... shame

 

Matt A

post #1701 of 1747
How could I connect my external dac through coax with the fiio e18 using android?
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How could I connect my external dac through coax with the fiio e18 using android?

I've used my E18 as a USB to SPIDF (Coax) converter from my Android phone to my Bifrost DAC. Yes it worked for me. When I first got my Bifrost, even though I connect via USB, I just had to try. :D

post #1703 of 1747
But how do you connect the wires and the dac? With the fiio e18, you have phone in, pc in, chg out. Then you have a coax output on the fiio. And the external dac has coax and the white and blue inputs. Which one do I use? I keep trying, but everytime it's only using fiio's dac.
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But how do you connect the wires and the dac? With the fiio e18, you have phone in, pc in, chg out. Then you have a coax output on the fiio. And the external dac has coax and the white and blue inputs. Which one do I use? I keep trying, but everytime it's only uses fiio's dac.

The E18 has a SPDIF Coax output. The Bifrost has a SPDIF Coax input. This is a digital interface so only one cable is required. In this case the DAC and amp of the E18 are not used. The E18 only serves as a USB to SPDIF Coax converter.

The Bifrost has 3 inputs (next to the power switch). USB, SPDIF Optical and SPDIF Coax.

 

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I know how dacs work, I've been using dacs with the pc since it began;). But I just don't get how I would get sound out of my external dac through the fiio e18. I connect the fiio with usb otg with my galaxy tab s 10.5. The tablet sees the fiio e18 as a dac, and plays through the fiio e18's dac. I connected the external dac with the fiio e18 through coax out, but that makes no difference. Maybe it's only possible on the pc?
Edited by jstps - 8/13/14 at 9:07am
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I know how dacs work, I've been using dacs with the pc since it began;). But I just don't get how I would get sound out of my external dac through the fiio e18. I connect the fiio with usb otg with my galaxy tab s 10.5. The tablet sees the fiio e18 as a dac, and plays through the fiio e18's dac. I connected the external dac with the fiio e18 through coax out, but that makes no difference. Maybe it's only possible on the pc?

I done this successfully with a GS3 and Note 3. And what do you do with the external DAC's output? I put mine to a separate headphone amp.


Edited by StanD - 8/13/14 at 9:49am
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I done this successfully with a GS3 and Note 3. And what do you do with the external DAC's output? I put mine to a separate headphone amp.

I don't really get it. If I am only using the fiio e18 with my tab s 10.5 or note 3, and want to use an external dac, could I than connect them all, so that I then use the amp section from the fiio e18 and the dac section from the external dac? Or do I need an external amp to connect to the external dac? Confusing;)
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I don't really get it. If I am only using the fiio e18 with my tab s 10.5 or note 3, and want to use an external dac, could I than connect them all, so that I then use the amp section from the fiio e18 and the dac section from the external dac? Or do I need an external amp to connect to the external dac? Confusing;)

This is something I have been thinking recently. I'm thinking of buying a little dot 1+ or mk2 but neither come with a dac. Would I just connect my Note 3 via usb to the e18 and then connect the e18 to the little dot using the coax out to the rca inputs in the back of the little dot or is that completely wrong?
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I don't really get it. If I am only using the fiio e18 with my tab s 10.5 or note 3, and want to use an external dac, could I than connect them all, so that I then use the amp section from the fiio e18 and the dac section from the external dac? Or do I need an external amp to connect to the external dac? Confusing;)

If you connect your ANdroid device to the external DAC via USB, you can connect the external DAC to the E18 Line Input and use the E18 as an Amp only. Many DACs (desktop) draw too much power for an Android device, so in all likelihood you would need a powered USB Hub.

Is the below what you are looking for?

Android>------OTG-USBCable----->PoweredUSBHub>------->DAC>-----RCAto3.5mmCable------>(LineInput)E18>-------->Headphones

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If you connect your ANdroid device to the external DAC via USB, you can connect the external DAC to the E18 Line Input and use the E18 as an Amp only. Many DACs (desktop) draw too much power for an Android device, so in all likelihood you would need a powered USB Hub.
Is the below what you are looking for?
Android>
OTG-USBCable
>PoweredUSBHub>
>DAC>
RCAto3.5mmCable
>(LineInput)E18>
>Headphones

Just before your post I tried it like this: tablet - otg usb cable to fiio e18 - external dac connected with fiio e18 coax out - interlink cables to external amp - amp on speakers. You describe another way I think. But it does work right now.

Edit: I have also tried it your way and that works too! The external dac directly connected to the tablet through usb.

2nd edit: Now I do it your way, with the interlinks with a 3.5mm adapter in the line in off the fiio, and than the headphones connected to the fiio. This gives the best sound. The amp in this fiio e18 sounds pretty good, but now that I have my old (cheap) v dac connected to the tablet as a dac and still using the fiio e18 as amp, I clearly hear a difference between this dac and the dac in the fiio e18. Through the v dac everything sounds larger and voices are less piercing. I can't imagine how I now like this v dac, because before, I had a Lampizator l3 gen 4 dac that's 10 times more expensive (but I sold it because I was not happy with sq through pc, which I used it for) and that Lampizator was so much better and more musical sounding than this v dac.

The highs of the fiio sound as if they have a little bit more of a sparkle to them (but are not better) ,probably because its much newer.
Edited by jstps - 8/13/14 at 6:28pm
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