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post #1681 of 1752
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Originally Posted by rebelinho View Post

hi there, 

I've found this rather "appealing" deal on ebay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fiio-Kunlun-E18-Professional-Portable-USB-DAC-AMP-Headphone-Amplifier-Power-Bank-/361006411883?pt=US_Headphones&hash=item540da8b06b

Can anyone tell if this is the real deal? I know the price is very suspicious, but the same seller is also selling the E18 in "Buy Now" format, for 142$: http://www.ebay.com/itm/361000845828?tfrom=361006411883&tpos=unknow&ttype=price&talgo=origal

also, I suppose the E18 works differently with different sources and headphones. I will be playing my music from a ZTE V875 or my computer (Asus K55VM, I think the sound card is one of those regular Realtek ones), and the headphones are the Takstar Pro80. Any insights on these?
There's no problem there, just an auction with a 99 cents starting price. Its unlikely it will end at that price and notice it says that the "reserve isn't met" meaning it won't sell at that price, even if the auction ends. Sadly, if you had discovered a hidden gem, sharing it on here would be the best way to blow a great deal. Don't worry about buying anything from eBay. They will refund any losses quickly and without fuss if there is a problem. The sellers are more at risk of being scammed these days than buyers.
post #1682 of 1752

thank you all for the quick replies.

 

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Originally Posted by SDBiotek View Post
 

A little bit of advice (which you probably already know): If it seems too good to be true, don't risk it. Check the sellers recent feedback (not just the score). At a glance, you can see the seller generally deals with much less expensive electronics and other items. As he is based in China, I would recommend against buying an E18 from him. There have been more than a few cases of dishonest sellers, based in China, claiming to sell an "audiophile" product. They will take a long time to ship, and often you will receive a random piece of junk, instead of what you ordered. After that, they may be very slow to respond, and it can be very difficult to get your money back.

 

yes, I've read quite a lot of feedbacks, and the only FiiO product in 20 pages was a E6. and the China point of shipping thing does put me off a bit.

 

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Originally Posted by CasperBxl View Post
 

 

 

Ask for the "scratch" code on the product (with a photo) in a PM. You can check online if it is real.

 

 

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Hope this can help,

 

Casper

 

it does, thanks. but, as said below...

 

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Originally Posted by Soundsgoodtome View Post
 


The price is suspicious because it's an auction and not buy it now. While it's at $2 currently it'll probably end around $110. I don't think there are any fake E18s at the moment. You're not going to get the scratch code if you ask. Maybe a picture of the box with an unscratched scratch code..

 

I was supposing that very same thing, for sure the seller wouldn't do it.

 

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Originally Posted by chillaxing View Post
 

the sellers seems legit.  they have a lot of positive feedback.  Maybe they're haveing a low starting price to draw people to their store.

 

good point, but it might put them off too due to suspects of fake items...

 

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Originally Posted by lawrecedent View Post

There's no problem there, just an auction with a 99 cents starting price. Its unlikely it will end at that price and notice it says that the "reserve isn't met" meaning it won't sell at that price, even if the auction ends. Sadly, if you had discovered a hidden gem, sharing it on here would be the best way to blow a great deal. Don't worry about buying anything from eBay. They will refund any losses quickly and without fuss if there is a problem. The sellers are more at risk of being scammed these days than buyers.

 

this would be my first ebay buy, but I've talked to other people and they say sooner or later any problems are sorted.

 

 

 

To end the discussion: I will not buy it. Why? I already have an amp (E11), so buying another is needless. I would only buy the E18 if the price was a real bargain. A stand alone DAC will fulfill my needs better and in a cheaper way.

 

Again, thank you all for the help provided


Edited by rebelinho - 7/30/14 at 2:52am
post #1683 of 1752
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Originally Posted by rebelinho View Post

thank you all for the quick replies.
Keep watching, I saw was watching one that ended for £50 the other day!


yes, I've read quite a lot of feedbacks, and the only FiiO product in 20 pages was a E6. and the China point of shipping thing does put me off a bit.


it does, thanks. but, as said below...


I was supposing that very same thing, for sure the seller wouldn't do it.


good point, but it might put them off too due to suspects of fake items...


this would be my first ebay buy, but I've talked to other people and they say sooner or later any problems are sorted.



To end the discussion: I will not buy it. Why? I already have an amp (E11), so buying another is needless. I would only buy the E18 if the price was a real bargain. A stand alone DAC will fulfill my needs better and in a cheaper way.

Again, thank you all for the help provided
post #1684 of 1752

You will probably find the E12 or the amp in the E18 much better than the E11.

post #1685 of 1752
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Originally Posted by StanD View Post

You will probably find the E12 or the amp in the E18 much better than the E11.

I'd say that if the E11 already gives him enough juice to power his headphones, keeping it might be the best decision. If he needs a portable DAC, that's a different story.
post #1686 of 1752
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Originally Posted by StanD View Post
 

You will probably find the E12 or the amp in the E18 much better than the E11.

 

yes, probably yes, but the E11 is more than enough to my needs, and I don't want/need to spend more oney on another amp

 

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Originally Posted by leogodoy View Post


I'd say that if the E11 already gives him enough juice to power his headphones, keeping it might be the best decision. If he needs a portable DAC, that's a different story.

 

exactly. the only reason for me to get the E18 would be for its DAC (and amp, two-in-one is better than one). I suppose a USB DAC, like the AQ Dragonfly, won't work with android phones even with one of these?

 

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post #1687 of 1752

Cellular Radio Interference Problem

 

I bought a brand new Fiio E18 last Saturday. After initial charging (almost 9 hrs with my 1A charger), i was able to test all the functionality and they are working so far. I tested it with my PC and HTC One M7. When testing with my phone, I was connected to WiFi. 

 

When I went out, my phone connects to mobile data and that's when I noticed that radio interference. It is too much that I had to turn my phone to Airplane Mode to listen properly.

 

Anybody experienced the same problem? Or know of some workaround/fix for it?

 

I already contacted FiiO support team and they confirmed that FiiO E18's shielding is weak. Their suggestions is pretty much what I already did: Turn off WiFi and GPRS.

post #1688 of 1752
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Originally Posted by rebelinho View Post
 

 

.... but the E11 is more than enough to my needs, and I don't want/need to spend more oney on another amp   ...... the only reason for me to get the E18 would be for its DAC (and amp, two-in-one is better than one).

 

rebelinho

The main reason for looking at the E18 is not just the DAC, it is the improvement in SQ that accompanies taking a digital feed (rather than analog) from your phone, iPod, or computer. I have an E11 - never gets used.

The SQ gain from using mobile (Note3) or Laptop/fidelizer/jRiver to feed the E18 is worth it in musical enjoyment. The price is realively small and perhaps a secondary consideration to whether you E11 can drive your headphones after receiving a compromised SQ analog signal? (I am assuming that is how you are using the E11?)

Cheers

Frank

post #1689 of 1752
For everybody that is still using the e18 with the standard short usb cable, there is a noticeable improvement in sq when using a standard usb cable from usb to micro usb with ferrite cores. Offcourse you do need a usb to micro otg adapter for that cable to connect the phone or tablet
post #1690 of 1752
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Originally Posted by jstps View Post

For everybody that is still using the e18 with the standard short usb cable, there is a noticeable improvement in sq when using a standard usb cable from usb to micro usb with ferrite cores. Offcourse you do need a usb to micro otg adapter for that cable to connect the phone or tablet


Interesting first post... I've tried both ferrite and non-ferrite and it sounds the same. I also have a USB power isolator on my laptop from HifimeDIY.

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post #1691 of 1752
I use the fiio e18 with my note 3 and galaxy tab s 10.5. Maybe that has something to do with it. It could be a Samsung problem. I am not advocating for buying an expensive cable, Just don't use the standard short fiio cable. I use a usb cable that came with my previous phone. I am 100% shure it was the cable.

I was also interested in the CL Theorem 720. Does anyone have experience with that vs the fiio e18?
post #1692 of 1752
The E18 is more compatible with Android devices than the Theorem 720. What I mean by that is, on some Android phones/tablets most or all music apps will work. On the Theorem 720, only UAPP or UARP work. SQ wise, the Theorem wins for me. (I kept the Theorem and passed on the E18 to my brother.)
post #1693 of 1752
Allright. I also use UAPP offcourse, but I also use mx player for movies. So the Theorem also doesn't work with mx?
post #1694 of 1752
Nope. At least on few devices I tried, it didn't.
Edited by lukeap69 - 8/9/14 at 7:35pm
post #1695 of 1752
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Originally Posted by jstps View Post

For everybody that is still using the e18 with the standard short usb cable, there is a noticeable improvement in sq when using a standard usb cable from usb to micro usb with ferrite cores. Offcourse you do need a usb to micro otg adapter for that cable to connect the phone or tablet

Do you know what ferrite cores are used for? It's for transformers and chokes etc. If it's cables, you probably meant ferrite beads. In that case it's used for suppressing high frequencies as in non-audio noise and interference, that's the only improvement one should expect from these.

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