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E18 and E09k will be ahead of the e07 and e09k imo. I'm guessing you don't like the tube sound of the mk5, maybe swap tubes? This may seem obvious but are tou using the line out to feed the little dot and not the hp out?

Or you could just he a solid state guy or gal and just dont know it yet.
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I have a doubt on the gain setting.

When using it in DAC mode what should the gain setting be? Does it depend on the source (ipad 3rd gen for me) or is it just a listening preference?
It usually depends more on the headphones you are using and how difficult they are to drive. This is usually indicated by how many ohms the headphones are (lower the number, easier to drive)☺
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I have a doubt on the gain setting.

 

When using it in DAC mode what should the gain setting be? Does it depend on the source (ipad 3rd gen for me) or is it just a listening preference?

The gain switch should be to compensate for the sensitivity of the headphones/IEMs which are different from model to model. Sources should follow standard levels and not differ greatly. Some sources require that you turn up their volume, all the way, when using external DAC's.

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Hello,

I have a pair of Beyerdynamic DT880 PRO 250 ohms. I used them with the combo FIIO E07K(DAC)+FIIO E09K(AMP) and it was fabulous... when I introduced E09K the sound was at least with 2 classes better (bass, soundstage, highs, etc).
I sold my FiiO combo and I bought FiiO E18 as I saw from reviews that is a better DAC even than E17 witch is better than E07K. Also for amplification I bough a Little Dot MK V solid state...
So now I am using FiiO E18 as DAC and Little DOT MK V as AMP and I am not happy with the sound on DT 880 PRO... It was so much better with FIIO E07K(DAC)+FIIO E09K(AMP)...
I am sure I connected everything OK and I use good quality RCA cables.
The source is my PC with Foobar2000 + flacs.
I mean Little DOT MK V amps the sound but I dont think adds quality, just volume booster... I even believe the sound is better if I use only Fiio E18 as DAC+AMP...
Should I go back to FiiO E09K ? And a second question: As FiiO E07K can connect directly into E09K it is better the combo E07K+E09K than FIIO E18+E09K ?

Can you please advise me on this ?

Thx

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Originally Posted by Soundsgoodtome View Post

E18 and E09k will be ahead of the e07 and e09k imo. I'm guessing you don't like the tube sound of the mk5, maybe swap tubes? This may seem obvious but are tou using the line out to feed the little dot and not the hp out?

Or you could just he a solid state guy or gal and just dont know it yet.

Looks like Florin doesn't want to pay an arm and a leg for an Amp. Perhaps a Schiit Magni would do the trick.

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It usually depends more on the headphones you are using and how difficult they are to drive. This is usually indicated by how many ohms the headphones are (lower the number, easier to drive)☺

 

 

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The gain switch should be to compensate for the sensitivity of the headphones/IEMs which are different from model to model. Sources should follow standard levels and not differ greatly. Some sources require that you turn up their volume, all the way, when using external DAC's.

 

So what should it be for ATH-M50x (http://www.audio-technica.com/cms/headphones/99aff89488ddd6b1/)?

post #1671 of 1675
Monoprice has their amp/dac on sale this weekend. Dont quote me but it looks like a an e09 with a built in dac as well as line-in to use as strictly an amp.
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Looks like Florin doesn't want to pay an arm and a leg for an Amp. Perhaps a Schiit Magni would do the trick.
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So what should it be for ATH-M50x (http://www.audio-technica.com/cms/headphones/99aff89488ddd6b1/)?
At 38 ohms they should be easily driven on the low gain setting. A good indicator is, if you plug the headphones straight into your phone ipod etc how does it sound? If you need to turn the volume all the way up and they still sound weak they will require amplification and possibly high gain.
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So what should it be for ATH-M50x (http://www.audio-technica.com/cms/headphones/99aff89488ddd6b1/)?

They don't really need an amp/DAC IMO smily_headphones1.gif
post #1674 of 1675
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They don't really need an amp/DAC IMO smily_headphones1.gif

BillsonChang007

 

IME, there is much more to sound quality than the capability of driving a headphone loud enough. The quality of the digital to analog conversion is critical. And there are big difference in the SQ between power amps of similar drive capability.

 

I have a Samsung Note 3, which used by itself does not come close to the SQ achieved when used as a digital source for an external DAC/AMP. I have tried with Fiio E18 and X5. The damped lifeless SQ of the Note 3 disappears when paired with even a modest external DAC/AMP like the E18 or X5. However, full CD resolution wav files are used.

 

I often find that users who recommend direct from phone listening are playing MP3 files, and this could be why they do not appreciate an external DAC/AMP.

post #1675 of 1675
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Originally Posted by lawrecedent View Post


At 38 ohms they should be easily driven on the low gain setting. A good indicator is, if you plug the headphones straight into your phone ipod etc how does it sound? If you need to turn the volume all the way up and they still sound weak they will require amplification and possibly high gain.

 

Thanks, went through the link. I am using volume around 4 (6 max), at low gain, so that's loud enough for me.

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They don't really need an amp/DAC IMO smily_headphones1.gif

 

My ears beg to differ:). I may not be able to quantify but the quality seems much better and loudness is no match.

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