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post #1561 of 2231

Hello everybody. 

I am looking for an dac/amp to go with my HTC one x on the road and to use at work behind the PC via USB.


While the E18 seems like the perfect match for my phone:

usb dac from android (would that make a big difference compared to only using the AMP part of the e17?)

charging my phone

more powerfull (both battery and amp power)

 

it has some drawback compared to the e17: 

no (decent) bass/treble adjustment

no spdif input 

no screen

less good sound quality/interference from phone/bass boost humm/USB OTG cable disconnecting/dying etc

 

While I think the fist differences are very personal (italics), as in, what do you need most (although any insights in the usefulness of those functions would be appreciated as well).

 

My major question comes from that underlined last part. As I read most of these SQ problems in this thread or on other threads on this ocean of information called Head-fi, I hope you can provide some extra insight. How bad is it? I am a beginning audiophile, owning an K612 pro and having a decent sound system at home, so I am not THAT picky. I love the K612 on my marantz receiver, but my phone and pc at work severely lack the power and precison to drive the cans.

Do you think I will notice the sound quality and interference problems on the E18?, or is that something for the hardcore audiophiles. And how about the E17, does it have comparable problems? I did not read any problems with the (usb) connection failing during traveling on the E17. I have read ~ 50 pages of both this thread and ~40 of the 433 pages long E17 thread, and while both have some negative reviews, the E18 seems to have slightly worse reviews. I know it is hard to advice somebody else on this kind of thing, but any insight would be greatly appreciated! 

Thanks

Q

 

 

Edit:

One more question: I am in doubt about buying a second hand one. How is the durability of the battery on Fiio products? Would be a bummer if I get one with a dying battery. 


Edited by Qupie - 6/12/14 at 4:36am
post #1562 of 2231
I actually regret selling my E18. I have two other amps/dacs, Sony pha-2 and the Intruder from Ray Samuels. They all sound great, the latter 2 do sound better, but the E18 was very compact. Was perfect for being on the go. I am fairly new to this hobby as well. Check out E18 on Amazon as they normally have a nice return policy on items. I did like the sound of E18 very much. I'm akmost tempted to purchase another one for my gym setup.
post #1563 of 2231

Would E18 be powerful enough to drive my Beyerdynamic DT 990 Pro 250 ohm headphones?

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Would E18 be powerful enough to drive my Beyerdynamic DT 990 Pro 250 ohm headphones?

Yes. I am using it to drive my Beyerdynamic T1's (600 ohm) on the high gain setting. And they sound great.

post #1565 of 2231
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Would E18 be powerful enough to drive my Beyerdynamic DT 990 Pro 250 ohm headphones?

Yes. The E18 drives my HD 650's very well on low gain.
post #1566 of 2231

Hello,

 

This is my first post in the Head-fi forum - and I'm practically a baby audiophile, if someone can give me a detailed response to this, it would be great!

 

I have a Denon AH D-2000, SE 846 iems, Logitech TripleFi10 iems and Shure 535 iems. As far as amps go, I have a Fiio E11. I use my laptop at home primarily for playing music, but when I'm out I use HTC One M8. 

 

I primarily listen to extreme metal (black metal, progressive metal, or stuff like Porcupine tree, steven wilson)

 

I am interested in tinkering around a bit more with sound setups, both on the go and at home. Can you advise if I should either purchase the E17 or the E18 for my particular setup?

What minor improvements can you suggest to improve my journey as a budding audiophile?

 

Any advise or response would be appreciated.

post #1567 of 2231
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Originally Posted by lethe27 View Post
 

Hello,

 

This is my first post in the Head-fi forum - and I'm practically a baby audiophile, if someone can give me a detailed response to this, it would be great!

 

I have a Denon AH D-2000, SE 846 iems, Logitech TripleFi10 iems and Shure 535 iems. As far as amps go, I have a Fiio E11. I use my laptop at home primarily for playing music, but when I'm out I use HTC One M8. 

 

I primarily listen to extreme metal (black metal, progressive metal, or stuff like Porcupine tree, steven wilson)

 

I am interested in tinkering around a bit more with sound setups, both on the go and at home. Can you advise if I should either purchase the E17 or the E18 for my particular setup?

What minor improvements can you suggest to improve my journey as a budding audiophile?

 

Any advise or response would be appreciated.

If you're looking for a DAC/Amp, IMO the E18 is a better choice than the E17. You might also want to kick out the E11 and get an E12. FiiO products are a great value and their higher end products are very good and remain inexpensive.

post #1568 of 2231
My e18 arrived today as my second portable amp shortly after acquiring the e11 a few months back. My main reasons for the upgrade were that I wanted an amp with a dac that I could connect by usb to really take advantage of my music collection which has all just been re-encoded in lossless format. I haven't spent much time with it so far (just about an hour when I got in) but sadly I have not fallen immediately in love with it as I thought I would and have been left with a few gripes.

1. Firstly, its huge after the e11 and heavy and when strapped to my Note 3 makes a formidable "pocket full". In fact I'd probably have to tighten my belt a notch for fear that they might fall down if I used it out and about in public.

2. The usb lead sticks straight out the bottom. No problem, I thought, I'll just place it in my pocket upside down leaving the fragile usb sockets protected. But no, it's so huge the headphone jack protrudes above my Note 3!!! Hardly the smallest of phones leaving me with the hobsons choice of either knackering the the usb ports on both amp and phone or the headphone jack. This problem is further exacerbated by the fact that the micro usb cables are straight instead of L shaped. I bought this amp thinking I would get more portable use out of it as the android controls would mean the rubber bands spanning my screen would not be such an issue, don't even start me on that after I completely rearranged my homescreen and switched the phone off whilst trying to put them on.

3. The sound, is not as immediately engaging as I expected. There doesn't seem to be as much seperation of instruments even as my humble e11 and the clarity seems muddled at times. Then there's the variable bass control of either none or loads etc etc
I really wanted to love these and totally realise I've not given them a fair run in yet. I'll commit some serious time to them this weekend I promise. But in the meantime, does anyone have any advice that might help remedy some of these problems?
Edited by lawrecedent - 6/20/14 at 2:06pm
post #1569 of 2231
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3. The sound, is not as immediately engaging as I expected. There doesn't seem to be as much seperation of instruments even as my humble e11 and the clarity seems muddled at times. Then there's the variable bass control of either none or loads etc etc
I really wanted to love these and totally realise I've not given them a fair run in yet. I'll commit some serious time to them this weekend I promise. But in the meantime, does anyone have any advice that might help remedy some of these problems?
How was your setup with e11? Connected to your Note's HP jack? e18 sounding muddy compared to e11 makes no sense.
post #1570 of 2231
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How was your setup with e11? Connected to your Note's HP jack? e18 sounding muddy compared to e11 makes no sense.
I know I really wasn't expecting it either. Yes, the e11 was connected by the hp jack. I think it must be unfamiliarity with the new sound signature from the e18 dac over the Note circuitry but I was expecting this to be a major advantage. There seems to be less detail in the upper ranges and some vocals seem a little recessed. Still I'll persevere. I bought it second hand so don't how many hours "burn in" they got from their previous owner.
post #1571 of 2231
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Originally Posted by lawrecedent View Post

I know I really wasn't expecting it either. Yes, the e11 was connected by the hp jack. I think it must be unfamiliarity with the new sound signature from the e18 dac over the Note circuitry but I was expecting this to be a major advantage. There seems to be less detail in the upper ranges and some vocals seem a little recessed. Still I'll persevere. I bought it second hand so don't how many hours "burn in" they got from their previous owner.
Burn in by previous owner IMO doesn't help, as it has to happen in your brain. Based on your description I can only suspect that e18 sounds overly warm (which I doubt, unless previous owner replaced parts of its circuitry) or you are used to an overly bright sound sig. Give it a chance to "burn in" and report back if you experience any changes. Good luck!
post #1572 of 2231
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Originally Posted by headdict View Post

Burn in by previous owner IMO doesn't help, as it has to happen in your brain. Based on your description I can only suspect that e18 sounds overly warm (which I doubt, unless previous owner replaced parts of its circuitry) or you are used to an overly bright sound sig. Give it a chance to "burn in" and report back if you experience any changes. Good luck!

Cheers, any advice on how to transport it or where to buy a dual l shaped micro usb cable for reasonable money?
post #1573 of 2231
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Originally Posted by lawrecedent View Post


Cheers, any advice on how to transport it or where to buy a dual l shaped micro usb cable for reasonable money?

A Vulcan Mind Meld?

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A Vulcan Mind Meld?
Haha, not sure I'm quite up to that level just yet!
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Originally Posted by StanD View Post
 

A Vulcan Mind Meld?

 

 

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Haha, not sure I'm quite up to that level just yet!

Why do you think that an HE-6 has huge magnets and consumes a lot of wattage?

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