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post #1306 of 2231
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Originally Posted by Zorrofox View Post

What headphones are you using? My V-Moda don't actually need the E18 for amp duty. My AKG Q701's do though.

Zorrofax

AKG 701 around the house and in the car, Sennheiser HD 239 walking the dog/at work, Etymotic Er4P in bed/planes/open road to keep music in/noise out

 

SQ is important for me. So I always choose the E18 over using the Galaxy Note3 by itself. A reflection of my listening biases.

The E18 combo gives a step up in sound quality (clarity, transparency, dynamics) and that is important to me.

In fact I also play with High and Low Gain for each track/album to get best sound. Changing the gain setting changes absolute polarity (you have to change volume of course for each change in gain setting) and it almost always sounds better on one or the other setting (yeh crazy old audiophile - still sensitive to the muffling distortion created by wrong absolute polarity for individual recordings). By the way I don't want to get into a discussion on this forum about absolute phase/polarity, but it would possibly be interesting if you could listen for yourself, and perhaps we could compare notes by PM.

 

Cheers

Frank

post #1307 of 2231
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Originally Posted by Hi-Fi Guy View Post
 

Are you sure? How can you tell?

Well, USB is digital and not analog, right? The digital to analog audio conversion has to happen somewhere after the digital signal ends, right? And it works through the USB cable with a CCK/Lightning-to-camera-adapter, ergo the DAC in the E18 is used and not the one in the iDevice.

 

Also, I believe iOS 7 opened up for digital audio output for iPhones (iPads had this already at iOS 6 I believe, I'm fairly new to iDevices myself).

 

Either way, this works flawless for me: iPhone/iPad -> Camera Connection Kit (I have the lightning variant) -> USB cable -> E18 -> Headphones -> Ears -> Brain -> Smile on my face.

post #1308 of 2231
Hello to all,
I'm Italian and I'm not very good with English, I'm using Google to write, sorry ... My question is this, are holding a LG G2 I would like to update it with Kitkat, there are USB problems with our E18? Thanks
post #1309 of 2231
Hello & welcome to Head-Fi.

Go to this thread and ask the same question...

http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/4380_20#post_10383632
post #1310 of 2231
Has anyone found a nice carrying case for the E18? While the one included with the e17 looks nice and had the fiio branding the E18 one couldn't look cheaper or more horrible. It barely event fits through the opening!
I can't find anything better yet :/
post #1311 of 2231
A sock?
post #1312 of 2231
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Originally Posted by shaolin95 View Post

Has anyone found a nice carrying case for the E18? While the one included with the e17 looks nice and had the fiio branding the E18 one couldn't look cheaper or more horrible. It barely event fits through the opening!
I can't find anything better yet :/

You could velcro it to the back of your DAP?

post #1313 of 2231
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Originally Posted by shaolin95 View Post

Has anyone found a nice carrying case for the E18? While the one included with the e17 looks nice and had the fiio branding the E18 one couldn't look cheaper or more horrible. It barely event fits through the opening!
I can't find anything better yet :/

Or do this, like I did. The result is awesome...

http://www.head-fi.org/t/628254/fiio-e18/1280_20#post_10359528
post #1314 of 2231

Damn. I saw that at the store the other day but didn't grab it. needed something for my E11 iPhone

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Originally Posted by Hi-Fi Guy View Post

Damn. I saw that at the store the other day but didn't grab it. needed something for my E11 iPhone

It's good stuff, nothing like velcro really. When my phone and amp are connected it's rock solid.

One important thing to note...

This is not an original idea by me. I cannot take credit.

Way back this was recommended to me by another member who's name I cannot remember. He was clear to point out the grade of tape I've used is the correct grade. He initially used a stronger grade and it was so strong he couldn't separate the units without ripping the backing off the tape. It was he who told me to get the grade I've linked to on Amazon and I did. He was right. It's perfect. It's also cheap.

Another point to remember is that this is most effective when applied to a phone case and not the actual phone. I can leave my Otterbox Commuter at home if I'm not needing the amp and trying to look posh.

Enjoy.
Edited by Solrighal - 3/22/14 at 5:28pm
post #1316 of 2231

http://www.amazon.com/3M-Fastener-TB3571-TB3572-25-4mm/dp/B007OXK4C0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1395534961&sr=8-1&keywords=25mm+3M+Dual+Lock+Tape

 

Is this pretty much the same stuff you mentioned? I could only find that in the uk amazon

post #1317 of 2231

Sorry in advance, going to drop some noobie questions! Has anyone been able to compare the e18 to e17 and e07k? From some things i read it was mentioned that the E18 was not as good as the e17 with the dac chip change and i'm just wondering if that's slander or fact. My source will be from a nexus 5 and a 3 year old toshiba laptop >_<

post #1318 of 2231
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Originally Posted by xriddler View Post
 

Sorry in advance, going to drop some noobie questions! Has anyone been able to compare the e18 to e17 and e07k? From some things i read it was mentioned that the E18 was not as good as the e17 with the dac chip change and i'm just wondering if that's slander or fact. My source will be from a nexus 5 and a 3 year old toshiba laptop >_<

 

Nonsense. Even by just the hardware spec, PCM1798 in E18 is better than WM8740 in E17.

SNR: 123dB vs 117dB (higher is better)

THD:  -106dB vs. -104dB (lower is better)

(PCM1798 left; WM8740 right)

 

By FiiO's own measurement, E18 as whole is better than E17 as well: E18 vs. E17 (click on the spec link with measurement inside).

 

E18's headphone amp section is also a little more neutral and transparent sounding than E17 too.

post #1319 of 2231
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Originally Posted by Hi-Fi Guy View Post

http://www.amazon.com/3M-Fastener-TB3571-TB3572-25-4mm/dp/B007OXK4C0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1395534961&sr=8-1&keywords=25mm+3M+Dual+Lock+Tape

Is this pretty much the same stuff you mentioned? I could only find that in the uk amazon

No, I don't think that would work. It might but I couldn't be sure. The actual 3M product code is this - 'SJ3540 250' and doing a search for that brings up this -

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/s/ref=is_box_industrial?k=Sj3540

I have no idea why they only seem to be selling it in such huge quantities though. I would think many hardware stores will sell it. Good luck.
post #1320 of 2231
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Originally Posted by xriddler View Post

Sorry in advance, going to drop some noobie questions! Has anyone been able to compare the e18 to e17 and e07k? From some things i read it was mentioned that the E18 was not as good as the e17 with the dac chip change and i'm just wondering if that's slander or fact. My source will be from a nexus 5 and a 3 year old toshiba laptop >_<</div>

I'm no expert at this game (particularly compared to ClieOS) but he's right. Technically speaking the E18 is superior in every way. However, from what I read before I bought my E18 there's a marked difference in the sound signature between it and the E17. The E17 is supposed to sound fairly warm and so might match well in a system you felt sounded harsh or lean. The E18 on the other hand is supposed to sound kinda lean, punchy & 'fast'.

That's how I read the differences described anyway. I went for the E18 for those & other reasons (the relatively huge battery and it's ability to charge my phone being the major one) and I'm not disappointed. It also matches up to my GN3 beautifully. It's built with Android in mind.

Anyway, just to say that raw stats are not always a guarantee of synergy in a system. Personal taste plays a big part too.

I hope this helps.
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