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post #1231 of 2229

Oh yes, the controls to skip songs is another reason I chose the E18 over the E17. I normally have my phone on the EQ window so this way I can access things easily.

post #1232 of 2229
I'm finding the E18 + Note3 heavy enough to be considered a weapon in some countries. You certainly wouldn't go jogging with it. I hate the band's that hold the two together so I've ordered some 3M velcro-like tape which should hopefully work well. My phone is in an Otterbox Commuter case so it won't get marked and the amp feels fairly robust.

All in all I'm enjoying it though. I like it when new equipment makes you re-examine your music collection. For instance, right now I'm listening to Dawn Penn! It's been literally years since I last gave this album a spin.

Good vibes ūüėé
post #1233 of 2229
I've just completed 5 hours solid listening via my new E18 and wow. I've always been skeptical of burn-in but with the exception of loudspeakers and cables. Well IMO the E18 benefits too. Of course after 5 hrs on the trot it could be me but I really don't think so.

There's better instrument seperation and quite a bit of depth too. Perhaps a slight improvement in width, maybe. I'm listening via closed-back cans so stage width is always going to be compromised. I'm happy with my purchase. Only thing I don't like is as I've said before, the rubber bands to hold the amp to the player/phone.

On a separate issue - how is the new X5 likely to compare? I know it's going to be good and wonder if adding the E18 to it would create any gains. Or would we be looking at a more expensive amp to pair with the X5? Pure conjecture at this point, I know, but I've kinda got the upgrade bug again.
post #1234 of 2229

From what I have read, I think you will need to pair the X5 with the E12 if you really want to improve the amp section but that is just some reading, not personal experience so maybe I am wrong lol

post #1235 of 2229
That would make sense. Perhaps they have an E20 in the pipeline...
post #1236 of 2229
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Originally Posted by Zorrofox View Post

I've just completed 5 hours solid listening via my new E18 and wow. I've always been skeptical of burn-in but with the exception of loudspeakers and cables. Well IMO the E18 benefits too. Of course after 5 hrs on the trot it could be me but I really don't think so.

There's better instrument seperation and quite a bit of depth too. Perhaps a slight improvement in width, maybe. I'm listening via closed-back cans so stage width is always going to be compromised. I'm happy with my purchase. Only thing I don't like is as I've said before, the rubber bands to hold the amp to the player/phone.

On a separate issue - how is the new X5 likely to compare? I know it's going to be good and wonder if adding the E18 to it would create any gains. Or would we be looking at a more expensive amp to pair with the X5? Pure conjecture at this point, I know, but I've kinda got the upgrade bug again.

I have not put as much time as you have on mine, but I am impressed.  Lately I have been using either my own high-performance mini3 portable amplifier, or the Epiphany Acoustics EHP-O2, but of course from the audio output from my Samsung S3.  

 

So far testing with my Klipsch X10's, but now that I am sending the FLAC files directly to the E18, everything sounds a little clearer, the bass is punchier, and the stage sounds a little wider - like less compressed.  I briefly tested my HD-580's and although I needed the high-gain, they sounded a little better as well.  I look forward to testing some more with my SuperFreq custom IEMs later tonight or tomorrow.

post #1237 of 2229
Hello again.

I also bought this...

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B004AQFBE0/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

The product above is cut into two strips - one stuck to the back of the Fiio E18 and the other to the back of my Otterbox Commuter case on the Note 3. It fits fantastically well, is incredibly secure, virtually invisible and can be separated when required. It looks like ordinary Velcro but it's not. It's far tougher and more secure.

Someone else on these forums actually recommended the product but, although generally satisfied, he did say that perhaps the version he bought was just a bit too tough to separate. I took his comments into account and the product above is the strength directly below what the original poster used. He was right. This stuff is fantastic.
post #1238 of 2229
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Originally Posted by Zorrofox View Post

Hello again.

I also bought this...

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B004AQFBE0/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

The product above is cut into two strips - one stuck to the back of the Fiio E18 and the other to the back of my Otterbox Commuter case on the Note 3. It fits fantastically well, is incredibly secure, virtually invisible and can be separated when required. It looks like ordinary Velcro but it's not. It's far tougher and more secure.

Someone else on these forums actually recommended the product but, although generally satisfied, he did say that perhaps the version he bought was just a bit too tough to separate. I took his comments into account and the product above is the strength directly below what the original poster used. He was right. This stuff is fantastic.

Awesome, thanks much.  I used my F18/Se combo last night and absolutely hated the rubber bands - no matter how much I moved/adjusted them, they seem to "always" be in the way.  I will try your suggested solution instead.

 

Now, I could not wait, so I got my SuperFreqs custom IEM's, and hooked them to my new E18/S3 combo.  My best setup earlier was using the well-regarded iAudio 7, but there is something about the DAC & Amp combination in the E18 that makes everything a clear step above the pure analog setup I had before.  This E18/S3 combo with FLAC files is outstanding.  In fact, I felt myself hearing things that quite never heard before with the iAudio or S3 - definitely more detailed across the listening experience.  

 

With the Klipsch X10 music sounds OK, but nothing extraordinary.  With the SuperFreqs, the E18/S3/FLAC becomes a "critical" setup, in that music that was well recorded sounds better than just generic recordings.  You can hear better separation of the instruments, and a more pinpoint image of where the microphones were for some of the recordings - some recordings do sound flat, while others sound really wide.  I have my SuperFreq's since 2009, but this is the first time I have been able to get such critical sound out of them - this is the best that they have ever sounded to me.  In fact, I still have the "upgrade itch" to get a second set of 3/4 driver IEM's, but after last night session I must admit my custom IEM's sound "pretty good" with the E18 doing both the DAC and Amplification :D

post #1239 of 2229
You're experience pretty much mirrors my own then. Music that's only average stays kinda average, only bigger. But music that's been recorded really well blows the bloody doors off! I'm not much of a jazz fan really but I do like Patricia Barber and her recordings are truly spectacular. I'd really like to experiment with some of the music found on sites like HD Tracks as I've never listened to anything better than FLAC. I can also highly recommend Le Phare by Yann Thiersen.

How do you find the bass boost? I rather like it when used with Neutron but then I'm not so clever using Neutron's EQ.

Yes, the rubber bands are always in the way. I've just been out for a 3 mile walk with the combo and that 3M stuff does the job superbly.
post #1240 of 2229
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Originally Posted by Zorrofox View Post

I've just completed 5 hours solid listening via my new E18 and wow. I've always been skeptical of burn-in but with the exception of loudspeakers and cables. Well IMO the E18 benefits too. Of course after 5 hrs on the trot it could be me but I really don't think so.

There's better instrument seperation and quite a bit of depth too. Perhaps a slight improvement in width, maybe. I'm listening via closed-back cans so stage width is always going to be compromised. I'm happy with my purchase. Only thing I don't like is as I've said before, the rubber bands to hold the amp to the player/phone.

On a separate issue - how is the new X5 likely to compare? I know it's going to be good and wonder if adding the E18 to it would create any gains. Or would we be looking at a more expensive amp to pair with the X5? Pure conjecture at this point, I know, but I've kinda got the upgrade bug again.

 

I'm also wondering how the SQ compares between X5 vs the E18 which I'm using.  Anyone else had an audition between the two?

post #1241 of 2229
I actually took a different approach I purchased one of those so phone holders for the car, do sticky ones and cut it in half. Since I end up using the 18 my note 3, cowon j3, I pod classic and macbook retina I didn't want to add velcro to everything. It works really well and I don't have ugly bands or the Velcro sound to deal with... And it only cost $5
post #1242 of 2229
Aye, that sounds like an option too. Whatever works for you.
post #1243 of 2229

Hi Zorrofox - do you know if the Note 3 + E18 works in Spotify please ?

 

:)

post #1244 of 2229
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Originally Posted by Buckster View Post

Hi Zorrofox - do you know if the Note 3 + E18 works in Spotify please ?

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I don't actually. I live in the middle of nowhere with no mobile signal and very, very slow internet so I don't even think I could check for you. Is there a free version of Spotify?

*edit* - I'm downloading it now and will try to get it running. I can't see any reason why it wouldn't work though, other than for the technical reasons particular to my location.

I'll tell you this though - I'm currently listening to Touch by Yello and it sounds bloody fantastic!

*edit* - Yes! It works fine. I actually had an old account I used on my iPhone before we moved to the sticks and it's still valid. Yes, plays fine mate.

*edit* - Even the physical buttons on the E18 work! Who knew?
Edited by Solrighal - 3/9/14 at 10:41am
post #1245 of 2229
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Originally Posted by Buckster View Post
 

Hi Zorrofox - do you know if the Note 3 + E18 works in Spotify please ?

 

:)


Works for me (S4 + E18 USB DAC) with streaming: Pandora, RDIO, and various players. including the physical buttons on the E18 (forward, backward, stop/play)


Edited by zolom - 3/10/14 at 2:01am
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