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post #1216 of 2229

I'm doing some tests with my Galaxy S3 + USB Audio Player PRO (trial) + E18.

I've got some hi-res flac files at different sample rate.

UAPP reports the sample rate of the file and the sample rate handled by the DAC.

 

Here is some results:

- file 88200 -> dac 96000

- file 192000 -> dac 96000

 

This is in according of the dac specifications, that is compatible with this sample rate: 32K/44.1K/48K/96K(16/24bit).

 

My question is: who made the upsampling and downsampling? Is the DAC or the player?

post #1217 of 2229
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Originally Posted by carpler View Post
 

I'm doing some tests with my Galaxy S3 + USB Audio Player PRO (trial) + E18.

I've got some hi-res flac files at different sample rate.

UAPP reports the sample rate of the file and the sample rate handled by the DAC.

 

Here is some results:

- file 88200 -> dac 96000

- file 192000 -> dac 96000

 

This is in according of the dac specifications, that is compatible with this sample rate: 32K/44.1K/48K/96K(16/24bit).

 

My question is: who made the upsampling and downsampling? Is the DAC or the player?

Are you sure that is actually true? Since the E17 is able to report the rates, with Android I always show 48 as  I dont think any of them support anything other than 48 or 44.

post #1218 of 2229
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Originally Posted by rfs830 View Post

How do the m80s sounds?  I have those currently and was thinking of getting the e18 but some had suggested of just getting better headphones.  I have been looking at the m100s (or i will take other suggestions) but though it might be good to get and amp first.  

What do you think?  

I didn't find the M80s to have that much improvement. The dac likely helped the most. The M80s were my first real pair of decent headphones but I agree that before the E18 really makes a difference you will need to update your headphones.
post #1219 of 2229

Ok so guys the only single cable alternative for micro to micro for my phone and the E18 is this?
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post #1220 of 2229
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Originally Posted by shaolin95 View Post
 

Are you sure that is actually true? Since the E17 is able to report the rates, with Android I always show 48 as  I dont think any of them support anything other than 48 or 44.

 

UAPP can avoid the Android limit of 48 sample rate.

I think that is not the player to make the up/down sample, but the chip on E18.

Can someone confirm?

post #1221 of 2229

I will try it with my E17 today since it will show me the actual rate but I dont think it is any program that bypasses that buy a kernel or so.

post #1222 of 2229

I am happy to report that the E17 does show 24/96 when playing such files using the UAPP application! Thanks for bring that up.

 

Sadly it has no EQ or other features and it does not look like in the near future based on my emails with the Dev so that sucks since it makes it  useless to me :/


Edited by shaolin95 - 3/6/14 at 12:56pm
post #1223 of 2229
I've just received my E18 in the post and it's charging right now. It'll be partnered with a Galaxy Note 3 and my V-Moda M-100 headphones.

I had forgotten I'd need to also buy a 3.5mm to RCA cable to hook it up to my Marantz amp. Used in this way it'll be taking the place of a £20 DAC I bought from Maplin's which I've never really been happy with. For the cable I went for a Nuforce Transition because I bought one of those to replace the kevlar kink-fest that V-Moda supply with their M -100's. That cable quite unexpectedly made quite a difference to the sound of the headphones. They made the bass quite a bit leaner and tighter. Which is nice.
Edited by Solrighal - 3/7/14 at 5:16am
post #1224 of 2229
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Originally Posted by Zorrofox View Post

I've just received my E18 in the post and it's charging right now.

Congrats.  According to the UPS notice I got, my E18 should arrive this afternoon :smile_phones:

post #1225 of 2229
To you too my friend. Remember to fully charge it before use.
post #1226 of 2229
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Originally Posted by wquiles View Post
 

Congrats.  According to the UPS notice I got, my E18 should arrive this afternoon :smile_phones:

Sweet!

I got the E18 our of curiosity thinking I was going to keep the E17 that I was getting the same week because of the display and treble/bass adjustments but suddenly I dont know if its my imagination but the E18 seems to have more dynamics and better instrument separation even though I was biased towards the E17 from the start.
I wish they were both combined into one but I asked FiiO and nothing like that coming up for now. :/

I would like to see the rate on the E18 and have the extra adjustments. The E17 can get bassier if you want to push to extremes. 

post #1227 of 2229
I got quite a surprise on my first listen but on the first of my usual test albums I was disappointed. Talkie Walkie by Air is filled with details but there some I wasn't gearing as clearly as I normally would. I switched to Shawn Colvin and realised my mistake. Of course the details were still there but now the Soundstage has some depth, and those details are simply further back in that stage. And I pulled out my Shure SRH840's and they have a really wide soundstage with this amp but they're at their best with folk, acoustic and generally laid-back music. I'm still getting used to it but so far so good.

The machine itself is lovely. Very nicely put together for the price. I need a longer micro USB to micro USB though.
post #1228 of 2229
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Originally Posted by Zorrofox View Post

The machine itself is lovely. Very nicely put together for the price. I need a longer micro USB to micro USB though.

 

It seems these are hard to find (if available at all). My solution currently is a micro USB to USB cable + USB OTG cable. It only works for me when the OTG cable is connected to the smartphone and not vice versa.

post #1229 of 2229
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Originally Posted by Zorrofox View Post

I got quite a surprise on my first listen but on the first of my usual test albums I was disappointed. Talkie Walkie by Air is filled with details but there some I wasn't gearing as clearly as I normally would. I switched to Shawn Colvin and realised my mistake. Of course the details were still there but now the Soundstage has some depth, and those details are simply further back in that stage. And I pulled out my Shure SRH840's and they have a really wide soundstage with this amp but they're at their best with folk, acoustic and generally laid-back music. I'm still getting used to it but so far so good.

The machine itself is lovely. Very nicely put together for the price. I need a longer micro USB to micro USB though.

So far I have only found one store selling one 8" with straight connectors..nothing else.

post #1230 of 2229

United arrived, safe and sound, and it works as advertised (even the buttons on the E18 work!).  Here connected to my Verizon Samsung S3, running the Neutron player, playing songs in FLAC format: 

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