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Upgrading from HD428s

post #1 of 10
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My first pair of quality headphones, the Sennheiser HD428s have been well used. I wore them almost every day for 3 years, and it shows. The pads are cracked and shedding, while the wire has been bent and stepped on so many times, the copper is exposed. I'm ready to upgrade. A few concerns. I would like a set that's better at isolation so I don't have to worry about if my coworkers can hear my music. I'd like a more substantial headphone cable this time. Nothing underpowered since I mainly use an iPhone. Lastly, I listen to all kinds of music but 90% of it is Rock. I originally bought these headphones from Best Buy for about $80, and that was probably a ripoff price. How much should I be looking at spending the second time around? Any recommendations? Experience with my phones? Thanks.

post #2 of 10

Although I've seen it for much lower online, I wouldn't call $80 a ripoff price if you've used it for 3 years solid.

 

There's the Citiscape Uptown still for sale at $65 shipped at http://1saleaday.com/. About 5 hours left as of this post, I think that's a solid upgrade (and cheaper too).

 

You've got a whole lot of other options, though.

post #3 of 10
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Originally Posted by viralcow View Post

Although I've seen it for much lower online, I wouldn't call $80 a ripoff price if you've used it for 3 years solid.

 

There's the Citiscape Uptown still for sale at $65 shipped at http://1saleaday.com/. About 5 hours left as of this post, I think that's a solid upgrade (and cheaper too).

 

You've got a whole lot of other options, though.

At the risk of being crucified for turning down a good deal....they're too brown. That's a good price though, but I know nothing about Philips headphones.

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At the risk of being crucified for turning down a good deal....they're too brown. That's a good price though, but I know nothing about Philips headphones.

They're actually very good headphones btw. Anyway, for 80 bucks, you can't go wrong with the Numark Red Waves. Great bass, great sound, great looks, great portability and great durability.
post #5 of 10
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Well it's plus 5 hours past that deal, so I need some new recs. It's not important what the price is, it should just be a reasonable upgrade from my old HD428s.

post #6 of 10
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Bump. This place is a lot more busy than I remember.

post #7 of 10

I have the HD428s, and agree that the cable is horrible. Out of the two pairs that I have, both of their cables got damaged at the exact same spot. One pair has been re-cabled, and the other ones is being re-cabled as well. 

 

Other than that, I can't think off the top of my head if  a closed headphone that has a similar sound signature as the HD428s exists. You might want to look for something different. Best to try some out at a music equipment store (Guitar Center if you're in the US), they usually have a lot of closed studio/DJ cans available to demo. If you want to stick with Sennheiser, the HD25-1ii are closed, really fantastic isolation, and sound amazing for rock,  very forward-sounding, nice tight , punchy bass (sometimes vocals can be a bit edgy though). They're also built like a tank, every part is replaceable, I've even seen them drop off some stairs without a scratch. Cable is average, but detachable. They are circumaural (on-ear), so if you wanted over-the-ear like the HD428, then sorry. They also might be over your budget, although I don't think you mentioned one. 

 

Best you read this as well: http://www.head-fi.org/t/433318/shootout-103-portable-headphones-reviewed-rock-it-sounds-r-shield-added-09-16-12

post #8 of 10
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Good to meet another HD428 owner. I don't mind the on-ear headphones, but you said the vocals are edgy? I'm a singer and I like to hear all of the lyrics and nuances of a song. Would that be a problem?

post #9 of 10

I had just meant that the sound, especially the upper-midrange to lower treble could be a bit aggressive, hence the term edgy. I would think that to be good for vocalists who might want a more forward presentation. I've never heard them, but I hear that the new Amperiors are a bit better (something to do with the shells, read this: http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/most-excellent-sennheiser-amperior-and-hd-25-1-ii). Another thing would be that there is a lack of soundstage size in general, especially compared to the HD428, which has a especially nice soundstage size for a closed headphone. Musicians might appreciate that though, as separation is really good. 

 

You say you enjoy proper vocals. Hard to find a closed pair that excels in that, but something like the Audio-Technica ES9W or the Vmoda M80 (I for one thought they had nice warm vocals) might do well.

post #10 of 10
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Alright. It looks like I'm deciding between the Vmoda M80s and the Sennheiser HD25-1 IIs. Both sound like a reasonable step up from my current pair. I think it might be a bit jarring starting off with less sound stage like my around the ear headphones. Of course these are just my portables for work, so I don't need to focus on an all-in-one solution anymore, since one day I'll get some really open cans, like my dad's old 600ohm DT 880Ss. Thanks, anyone else care to contribute?

 

Edit - I just noticed the M80s are vented. They're out of the running. So HD25-1 IIs are top pick now, though I was going with the M80s because they were cheaper. 


Edited by Rex24-7 - 9/22/12 at 8:25pm
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