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post #61 of 95
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Originally posted by markl
Psssssst.... can someone please translate Tyll's post for me? Sorry, too cryptic. I don't know what other thread he ranted in that he is referring to, does anyone have a link? Is he saying we are about to catch a huge headphone hobby wave that we are going to miss or stifle because Head-Fi isn't organized properly or we aren't prepared somehow? What would we need to do that we aren't already? If this drags the thread off-topic, then never mind, but Tyll, if you'd like to clarify, I, for one, wouldn't mind listening to what you have to say....
He's saying that we need to pay attention to what's happening always or that head-Fi will have future problems coming up. I could point you to the thread, but I think it's best left dead...
post #62 of 95
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Originally posted by minya
Yes, it is touchy, which is precisely why I think they should stay out of it.
I wholeheartedly disagree. The fact that moderators here are "part of the family" and (generally speaking) do not elevate themselves above the rest of head-fi membership is one of the very special things about this board, in my opinion. It's one of the first things I noticed as being different than most other internet forums... it's an unusual sense of equality and a flat playing field you don't find very often.
post #63 of 95
I agree with fewtch, in other forums Mods treat themselves like they are royalty and are rude to other users that are "n00bs" to them. It's stupid and doesn't occur here, the mods here act like normal users do, and they should be able post everywhere too, if one does something dumb, he's done something dumb...no special priviledges or anything like that.
post #64 of 95
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Originally posted by KR...


He hasn't been back since 9/11

I still say Apheared Levels when refering to someone who listens to their headphones too loud
I didn't know who you were talking about, so I looked and found lots of posts from sept 2001 to Jan 2002.
http://www5.head-fi.org/forums/searc...=&pagenumber=1
post #65 of 95
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Originally posted by Earwax
I didn't know who you were talking about, so I looked and found lots of posts from sept 2001 to Jan 2002.
http://www5.head-fi.org/forums/searc...=&pagenumber=1
I never go to the DIY forum so that's explains why I didn't see those posts. Is he still a Moderator? What did happen to him anyway?
post #66 of 95
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Originally posted by jude
You can look at the positives and negatives of any change, but one positive's for certain: the growth of Head-Fi means cooler products by more manufacturers. We've seen this, particularly with DIY-inspired product offerings, not to mention the higher-end side of the marketplace. For the product offerings to continue to evolve, the marketplace has to be there to support product innovation and roll-outs, and Head-Fi is easily the single largest representative chunk of that marketplace. The growth of Head-Fi will result in continued innovation, and so greater product variety, for headphone hi-fi'ers.

And the community still clearly exists, with members loaning gear to other members, members opening their doors to other members, etc. I still haven't seen a community of this size where the sense of community is so strong.

Is it different than it was when it first started? Of course. But look at what's available now that wasn't then.
What if the Prophesy is true?

What if the tomorrow the war could be over?

Isn't that what we're fighting for?

Isn't that what we're DYIng for?
post #67 of 95
I've surfed here since July 2003 and I bought my first set of "good" cans (V6's) a while ago. I never posted very much because the search feature was good enough for me. I think that the forums have not changed very much except for more newbies posting on the Headphones forum. That basically all the chnage I see.
post #68 of 95
i'm on the same wavelength as markL...
as i too would like to know what Tyll is talking about in a more specific manner. he is a very intelligent, informative person and i as well as others think we could benefit from hearing what he has to say.

so what's up Tyll? what's on your mind?

the only problems (not really problems) i've been observing is a little slow down in terms of exciting discussions whether it be about headphones or anything else. back when i first joined, there was always something very interesting to read about. there are still some, but not as much.

i also feel that the moderaters do a great job around here. they also devote a lot of their time to running this place. i have never felt like i was being treated unfairly or scene as "lower down on the head-fi latter." if i had tons of money, i would reward them for their services with their headphone or amp of choice. since i don't have oddles of money, a simple sign of respect i hope will do.
keep up the good work guys
post #69 of 95
Tyll's philosophy is explained fairly well in this post:
http://www5.head-fi.org/forums/showt...520#post711520
He also has some interesting posts earlier in that thread.

Some of Tyll's ideas involve commercializing the forums, at least for newbies (he wants to link to his product pages for specific headphones, etc.). Personally I think this is the wrong approach; part of what makes Head-Fi so comfortable is that it has stayed away from excessive commercialism. While there is sometimes a strong flavor of the month influence, the hierarchy of product value seems to emerge organically, based on people's comparisons of various pieces of gear, rather than their absolute price (e.g. Grado SR225 gets recommended much more frequently than SR325s, even though the latter is more expensive; similarly, despite wild claims by the manufacturer, people rarely call Xin's amps "PPA killers"). I realize that, having laid off his engineering staff on the advice of consultants, Tyll might prefer trying to influence product recommendations using advertising/marketing techniques rather than competing on merit alone, but it would IMHO be a shame if Head-Fi started trending that way.
post #70 of 95
I'm still technically a newbie, so take my comments with a grain of salt.

In my short time here I've developed an intense liking of the Head-Fi community. Although there may be over 10,000 registered members, few of them post regularly, and I've seen a sort of "core-group." The people here are generally friendly, helpful, and passionate about there hobby. But it really bothers me to hear people speak out against new members. Without new members this forum would stagnate and die, new members help provide a vital energy. Instead of taking this elitist "I've been here for 2 years" attitude, consider helping introduce these new members to the joys of the hi-fi world. This has been an exciting and rewarding hobby (dare I say adventure) for me, and I think it would be wrong to deprive others of that chance. For example, I have never been a fan of the stock, "that has been discussed, do a search" reply. Too often searching nets you pages and pages and pages of threads to sift through. Add to that the fact that many of these threads will not be applicable to the specific situation the poster asks about, and the occasionally dated information. It is much better to have tailored information, and is certainly a more encouraging response when someone says, "In your situation consider x, y, z. Pros and cons of x, y, z, include.." Of course, if it is something blatant, then a search may be in order.

Well, that was my rant for the night, I apologize for lack of clarity, concision, and grammer, its 3:30 am and I'm going to bed!
post #71 of 95
wodgy,

i agree 100%.
i can't understand why anyone would want to turn head-fi from how great it already is, to something different. this is where we audio freaks go to in order to, for the most part, avoid all the commercialism we are exposed to, especially on the Internet alone. this is why there are sites like head-fi, and sites like headroom...each serve their own purpose.
post #72 of 95
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Originally posted by Permonic
What if the Prophesy is true?

What if the tomorrow the war could be over?

Isn't that what we're fighting for?

Isn't that what we're DYIng for?
LOL!!!

If irony was made of strawberries, we'd all be drinking a lot of smoothies right now.
post #73 of 95
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if i had tons of money, i would reward them for their services with their headphone or amp of choice. since i don't have oddles of money, a simple sign of respect i hope will do.
you can pay me on the installment plan ,just make out the checks to..............



post #74 of 95
You missunderstand me. I DON'T think HeadFi should be "commercialized", in fact, quite the opposite. I think Head-Fi could adopt some structural features that allow it to operate more fluidly with the world around it.

Europeans have long been investing in downtown areas cordoned off from car traffic to provide lovely pedestrian areas. This makes for a charmng downtown area for citizens and brisker business for merchants, all without an increase in "advertising" per se. In otherwords the downtown goes through a structural change and both quality of life and commerce improve.

>>>i can't understand why anyone would want to turn head-fi from how great it already is, to something different.



Why the implication that change must be for the worse. I think the threads are running far faster than before and feel quite cluttered and lacking in continuity. NOT to perform some structural change in order to sort some of the traffic out, is to allow Head-Fi to turn into something different, and of lessor quality in my opinion.
post #75 of 95
I grew up listening to 78s.
Then 45s.
Then LPs (33s).
Anyone have any 16s?

Now you say to your kid, "You sound like a broken record" and they ask,"What's a record?"

There is nothing wrong with Head-Fi.

Perhaps those who lurk here all day see little traffic. In which case they should be monitoring the kiddies. Set an example and bring them up right. Think and act like a moderator.

You do it with your own kids don't you? What do you do when they get out of line? What do you do when they get bored?

If you're bored do the search for them.

Create threads that will be interesting to them.

You don't need to stifle their enthusiam. Just show them how to re-direct their energies to their other playmates.
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