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post #46 of 95
One of the biggest problems, IMO, is Take It Outside, and more specifically, moderators posting in Take It Outside.

- Chris
post #47 of 95
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Originally posted by Edwood
Compared to other forums, this is a forum with a large membership with a tightly-knit, friendly, and helpful community.

That's why this forum was so much more addictive than any other forum I've ever joined.
I concur.
post #48 of 95
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Originally posted by minya
One of the biggest problems, IMO, is Take It Outside, and more specifically, moderators posting in Take It Outside.

- Chris
Touchy subject Chris. Should they set an example and stay away from expressing their opinion on volatile issues if it will cause problems? Or, do they participate like the rest of us and not worry about their mod status? I guess each one can decide for themself. Jude is pretty cool about giving freedom to the mods and allows them to participate in whatever thread they choose.

I personally feel there is a fine balance between these two arguments. They should be able to participate in the TIO threads, but with the knowledge that they represent Jude and Head-Fi, and while they shouldn't be supressed should exercise discretion. (Which, BTW, I feel most, if not all, do.)
post #49 of 95
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Originally posted by ServinginEcuador
Touchy subject Chris. Should they set an example and stay away from expressing their opinion on volatile issues if it will cause problems? Or, do they participate like the rest of us and not worry about their mod status? I guess each one can decide for themself. Jude is pretty cool about giving freedom to the mods and allows them to participate in whatever thread they choose.
Yes, it is touchy, which is precisely why I think they should stay out of it. I believe Jude wishes Head-Fi to grow, and probably to accept even more sponsors -- how would a sponsor feel if they notice that the moderators (essentially the staff) of a potential sponsor are discussing subjects like politics and religion? I'd be somewhat put off. And allowing moderators to enter heated discussions like those in Take It Outside leaves room for charges of favoritism and hypocrisy. I really don't see the point.

- Chris
post #50 of 95
Growth can be good, but I still feel that there are too many people here posting just for the sake of posting to get their post counts way up. Still don't understand why that is so important to some folks, but it's their life, not mine.
post #51 of 95
Yeah, the ridiculous post count guys calm down eventually <coughyo)Alexandrucough>


-Ed
post #52 of 95
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Originally posted by minya
Yes, it is touchy, which is precisely why I think they should stay out of it.

- Chris
I see your point and am not trying to change your mind about it, but I tend to disagree. They should set the pace in many ways, including decorum, language, personal attacks, thread crapping, etc., but to ask them to not post in TIO or somewhere else where they will end up in some controversy is another thing entirely.
post #53 of 95
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I'd be somewhat put off. And allowing moderators to enter heated discussions like those in Take It Outside leaves room for charges of favoritism and hypocrisy. I really don't see the point.
And just where is this favoritism dude ?

what hypocrasy ?

and to say moderators are not also members with the same rights as the general population here is dead wrong

Are we just supposed to hang in the background and wait for someone to screw up so we can pounce ?

not hardly


You know why it is called "TAKE IT OUTSIDE" ?

because these are topics not ready for prime time and just about always leave some walknig away mad or hurt or both

definately not the place for the thin skinned

Knowing how it is in "there' i suggest it is not for everyone and some should just stay inside
post #54 of 95
As long as mods do not take what happens in the TIO forum personally then I don't really see how it can be a problem. Sure, some of the things that Mods have posted and some of the extreme opinions they have express on the TIO may not be very good for business, but this site wasn't design to be a big money making machine anyway. Sometimes I just wish that both of those boards were deleted and those types of posts would simply be banned and anyone who broke those rules would also be banned, perhaps then that would lighten up the mood a bit. I have made a lot of posts there and started many threads, but I sure wouldn't miss it if it was gone tomorrow.
post #55 of 95
At least there's one thing that remains constant. The never ending stream of these threads...
post #56 of 95
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Sometimes I just wish that both of those boards were deleted and those types of posts would simply be banned and anyone who broke those rules would also be banned, perhaps then that would lighten up the mood a bit. I have made a lot of posts there and started many threads, but I sure wouldn't miss it if it was gone tomorrow.
the reason TIO came into being is because certain topics will come up from time to time that lead to some of the infighting witnessed and the general membership did not care for it one bit

Ther descision to not count these posts towards the total member post count was thought to insure that useless posters would not camp out there and troll for flames

instead it ended up being a war zone where feelings run high and some get hurt

but lose TIO and some of the same people will start similiar threads in the general lounge and if/when the mods delete it or edit it the screams will start the other way ,similiar to what happened when we attempted to clean up some of the off color language here in the past few days

you would think we put duct tape on thier mouths with the screams of censorship heard !

So what to do ?

Lose TIO and make every prvocative thread go bye bye ?

Any discussion we , the mods , determine is out of bounds just delete it ?

Keep TIO and put a sign up with "the sensitive or unstable need not enter " ?

"enter at your own risk" ?

No way no matter what decisions are made is everyone going to be pleased .

and the same crew that screams at every turn on every little petty issue will let out a yell heard throughout head-fi

"unfair"

"moderator nazi fascists"

"censorship"

no win here folks

Inane is just a waste of bandwidth that is exactly what it sounds like

In the end it is not my call so this is just a rant , sometyhing not only am i famous for but it pre dates head-fi and goes all the way back to the early days of headwize

to expect the rickmonster to be anything but what he is is not a realistic goal

Just HOW do you think i got the label under my avatar anyway ?

not by backing down from a challege or avoiding from stating my opinion in direct terms

no sugar coating here to make the medicine taste better
post #57 of 95
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KR... said...

The Golden Age is LONG gone, it was the 1st year, we are in our 3rd year or coming up to it soon. Back in those days it really was like one big happy family and there were never any flames or useless posts or anything like that. Everyone was really smart and polite, and we also didn't have any newbies, LOL!
Quoted for truth. However, I agree that the Golden Age of headphones is happening or getting ready to happen, and this is a very good thing.
post #58 of 95
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Where we were was that you could live life 3 ways (taken from "My life as a surfer" by me):

1) You can blindly think you know what's going on and start paddling whether there's a wave there or not.

2) You can close your eyes and start paddeling when you feel the swell---but you'll always miss it that way and for ever be bobong around.

3) Or you can keep your head on a swivel, and plan for each new swell, positioning your launch just right, and then riding like there's no tomorrow.

This issue is not going to go away. Head-Fi needs structural changes or surfing Head-Fi won't stay fun. I won't say more; the last thread I ranted in died.
Psssssst.... can someone please translate Tyll's post for me? Sorry, too cryptic. I don't know what other thread he ranted in that he is referring to, does anyone have a link? Is he saying we are about to catch a huge headphone hobby wave that we are going to miss or stifle because Head-Fi isn't organized properly or we aren't prepared somehow? What would we need to do that we aren't already? If this drags the thread off-topic, then never mind, but Tyll, if you'd like to clarify, I, for one, wouldn't mind listening to what you have to say....
post #59 of 95
There is no spoon.

post #60 of 95
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Originally posted by Edwood
There is no spoon.
Try telling that to Uri Geller.
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