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post #1 of 95
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Not to upset anyone, but i think maybe headfi has gotten too big? Seems like the community has lost the old sense of true community, offer great advice and a friendly armosphere it once had. I for one have noticed that some posts are a"lil" sarcastic in nature, and that snobishness has begun to creep in. Also is it me, or have more "useless" posts have appeared latley, and more juvinal in nature?

I guess I'm just nostolgic, but to me there seems to be a loss of what this sight used to be, where advice and oppinions were offered as food for thought, not one upsmanship.
post #2 of 95
At least one recent thread touched on this, particularly the issue of elitism. We tossed around some ideas, but none of it will mean anything unless Jude or the moderators buy into them.

Or, perhaps, all we need is an attitude adjustment. There's no reason why a forum with a large membership can't be a tightly-knit, friendly, and helpful community. As long as we strive to post useful things, and the moderators stay on the ball and nuke the useless stuff, then we'll be alright. Maybe that's a tall order, but what else is there to do?

D.
post #3 of 95
I noticed the useless posts gaining momentum again. But still not up to the pre CI forum levels.

We could be entering the "golden age".
Then again, maybe the golden age was last year.
It's all a matter of how you want to perceive it.
post #4 of 95
I'm getting pretty sick of people saying this over and over and over... If you miss the old days take a walk in the archive, otherwise just stop putting down the place so much... There is plenty of good things about head-fi getting bigger. - I'd say the worse thing about it is all these people talking about how head-fi lost it's spirit etc. That's just bull.

Maybe you just miss the excitement of being new to the whole thing? Maybe you really need to try some of the other boards like the music board or the DIY board??

Maybe you're missing everything about the old days and wish it would be the same, but yappin' on about it won't make it so.
post #5 of 95
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Originally posted by Mr.PD
I noticed the useless posts gaining momentum again. But still not up to the pre CI forum levels.

We could be entering the "golden age".
Then again, maybe the golden age was last year.
It's all a matter of how you want to perceive it.
hey, we took pride in useless posting back in those days. but youngsters these days just don't know how it's supposed to be done...

eh whatever. the only constant is change right?
post #6 of 95
From where I'm sitting, it's always the golden age. Ah thank you Mr Postman, yet more toys!
post #7 of 95
Growth is change, and not many embrace change. They like the status quo and find it hard to accept new members at a constant rate. Once you just get to know some people here and make some friends, suddenly you have more people entering the picture, and we don't always know what to do with them.

We will get the same questions over and over again here, that will never stop. Like was said before, either ignore those threads or disappear for a while. It'll drive you nuts and the sarcastic "use the search button" isn't a nice way to treat someone new looking for an answer.

I sure hope TUP doesn't have a big resurgence. One more posting bot-like episode and I'm gonna take a sabbatical. It was funny the first 200 posts, but got old very quickly after that. Encouraging the senseless and utterly stupid posting that goes on by some people that are new is another thing that is hard to take. Sure, we have a lot of kids under 18 posting here, but the childish level of posting coming from some of them should be curbed before it gets out of hand.
post #8 of 95
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Originally posted by ServinginEcuador
I sure hope TUP doesn't have a big resurgence. One more posting bot-like episode and I'm gonna take a sabbatical. It was funny the first 200 posts, but got old very quickly after that. Encouraging the senseless and utterly stupid posting that goes on by some people that are new is another thing that is hard to take. Sure, we have a lot of kids under 18 posting here, but the childish level of posting coming from some of them should be curbed before it gets out of hand.
Doug, it's early and I'm having that first cup of coffee, but for the life of me, I can't figure out what you're referring to here.

What are who is TUP?

post #9 of 95
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Originally posted by RickG
Doug, it's early and I'm having that first cup of coffee, but for the life of me, I can't figure out what you're referring to here.

What are who is TUP?

Sorry Rick. It is 5am, so no sweat. Team Useless Poster.
post #10 of 95
HI: I think a lot of new members are young and really don't know how to post there thoughts yet and in time will mature into fine members. The useless post will also mature as the new members get more knowledge on the headphone and amp and experience with the stuff. I remember that when I was a USA marine they always talked about the old MARINE CORPS and then one day 3-4 years later we were talking about The old MARINE CORPS from our time. LOL.
post #11 of 95
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Originally posted by ServinginEcuador
Sorry Rick. It is 5am, so no sweat. Team Useless Poster.
Thanks, Doug...

post #12 of 95
Some guys have probably been here almost 3 years, and their posts are just as fresh and helpful as many new and excited members are. So I don't really think a golden age has past. And for every [relatively] new guy like Austonia who brings his endless enthusiam to the forum, you have old-timers like Bangraman, markl, stuartr, rickcr42, blessingx, dark angel, Vertigo-1, Flasken, tuberoller, hirsch and a bunch of other who still go out of their way to help newbies. So don't lament the old days - they ain't past yet. And every day brings someone new full of questions. Help 'em out and share what you've learned -- That's what keeps things fresh. Maybe it'll keep things fresh for you as well.

And we all go through phases here, too. Friendship, debate, anger, hate, redeemption. Don't jump ship if you're going through some negative vibes. There are guys I've had fights with so long ago I've forgotten that we ever had them and now I find myself supporting and agreeing with them on things! Heck, I was one of the guys who came down on USC Goose for going post crazy, now I'd miss the hell out of him if he left! He's a good guy! The only bummer is when we lose members who are interesting. There's a lot of guys I lament losing, like Scrypt, who was just f@#* interesting as hell.
post #13 of 95
"I was a USA marine they always talked about the old MARINE CORPS and then one day 3-4 years later we were talking about The old MARINE CORPS from our time. LOL."

Ain't that the truth?


Instead of complaining how about contributing? Lead by example?

Racking up meaningless “post counts” is about the only gripe I have. It’s quality not quantity that counts. And we have a lot of people who have nothing constructive to say but trash a product anytime they get the chance. Especially products they’ve never heard.

Think about what you’re going to say. If it doesn’t constructively add to the conversation maybe it’s not worth posting. This is a place to share experience and advice not just hang out and heckle.


Mitch
post #14 of 95
I started on Head-Fi in December, 2003. I would rank the information and helpfulness quotients of Head-Fi well above the usual newsnet forum. There are many really knowledgeable people whose posts are worth searching out, and plenty of opportunities to share what you've learned (from others and your own experience) with others that would benefit from it. Yes, there are some kids on the playground that I don't enjoy playing with. There are also many people on the forums who I really like and admire, and am enriched for having gotten to know through the forums. Head-Fi also has a really interesting collection of characters with good entertainment value as well. Just evaluating Head-Fi over the past three months, I'd say that Head-Fi is an interesting, fun, and good place to be.

Suggestions:

Some of the personal touches and commraderie is in the Members Lounge. In fact, some of the really nice things happening on Head-Fi are happening in the Members Lounge. The Equipment Forums can get a little one-upsmanshippy at times. More nice inter-member moments can be found in the Members Lounge. This forum is a nice place to round out the Head-Fi experience.

For those who are convinced that the Head-Fi world is falling, then the advice of Sting would be in order:
"Oh, when the world is a-fallin' down, you make the best of what's still around."
Seek out the good folks and their higher-quality posts.
Make an effort to improve the quality of our own posts to make them more like the posts we appreciate the most.

Give new folks some time to get into the swing of things, and offer them encouraging suggestions as to how they can better access the Head-Fi resources.

The growth at Head-Fi is a real opportunity (not without its growing pains). With some constructive hosting and maintenance effort, in addition to all of our enjoying Head-Fi, the Golden Age of Head-Fi is yet to come.
post #15 of 95
I guess I don't understand posts like this. To me, every day is a new "Golden Age" around here. I think growth is good, it can only lead to good things. For example:

1. The bigger we get, the more impoortant we become, the bigger a market we are. The bigger the market we are, the more new toys the audio manufacturers will build for us. IMO, this can only be a *good* thing. We've already seen this start to happen, when I first came to headwize in 99 (or was it '98?), there were only a handful of headphone amps on the market. Now every week there's a new manufactuer getting into the market with their own product.

2. We now have more and more Head-Fi meets in more and more locations, where people get to share gear and good company of like-minded people. The bigger we grow the more meetings we can have, the larger the meetings we can have, the more gear will be brought to these meetings for us to hear... etc. etc.

3. The longer people stick around, the more the experience level of many Head-Fiers continues to grow, making their reviews and opinions ever more valuable and informative. We now routinely have folks here who receive gear from audio makers strictly for evaluation purposes, that's pretty damn cool IMO.

4. Now, when you ask a question or start a thread, within minutes, sometimes even seconds, you've got a dozen replies, and maybe even a fun debate develops. That's amazing, there's no need to wait several days, or several weeks for a reply, and you aren't at the mercy of the one person who bothers to reply, you'll have a dozen different perspectives to compare.

5. We've grown so large, we can now have more specialized forums to discuss more specific areas of interest. remember when amps, sources, speakers and cables were all in one forum? Was that better? It was only through our growth that these forums were necessary to split off and could support themselves.

6. The Take it Outside and even the Certifiably Inane forum allow an outlet for discussions of topics beyond just headphones, you can get a good laugh or even a spirited intellectual debate without ever having to leave the site.

7. The For Sale forum now has so many tasty pieces of gear at a good price, you can get virtually any headphone, headphone amp, cable etc. you want at almost any time, no need to wait 2-3 months in the hope that one shows up.

8. We now have Headroom and TTVJ with their own forums for answering our questions. this is very useful, we can only hope that in the future perhaps some headphone makers will set up shop there and we can interact with them in person, provide feedback, suggestions, wish lists, etc.

OK, you get the idea. To me every new member has something to offer the community and makes us stronger not weaker, and makes the forums more useful, not less.

Mark
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