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post #961 of 1662

Very nice. Needs pics!

 

Unfortunately I am limited to head-fi right now in my shared apartment with wafer thin walls but the timekeeper will definitely be an option once I get my own place. Have you managed to solved the hissing yet?

post #962 of 1662

90% of the hissing has gone (a tip from Burson, who are always helpful), I can only hear it if I put my ear right up to the speaker, which I don't, so it's OK :¬)

 

Mac > iFi iUSB > VLINK 192 > Conductor > Timekeeper > KEF LS50 is pretty magical.

 

Still burning stuff in, too.

post #963 of 1662
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Originally Posted by Andrew_WOT View Post
 

Interesting, even M2Tech HiFace2 sounds like a definite improvement over Conductor native USB.

Flipping between them back and forth right now, both with iUSB Power to minimize noise from PC.

Kind of surprising, is Tenor that bad?

After additional burn in, including running some material via native USB receiver I set up another test, this time with two inputs connected at the same time:  SPDIF from HiFace2 and USB directly from computer, so I can quickly switch between them w/o messing with cables.

And this time I really had to strain to hear any difference between the two to the point that I am not certain that I will be able to detect any during blind testing. :confused:

The only other change between two test runs, besides burning in USB receiver, was brand new laptop I've just received at work. So either change made internal USB sound at least as good as HiFace2.

 

Does anyone know if Conductor USB receiver draw power from computer?


Edited by Andrew_WOT - 9/9/13 at 6:47pm
post #964 of 1662
Conductor doesn’t use power from computer.
post #965 of 1662
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Conductor doesn’t use power from computer.

Cool, do you have any references to this info? Thanks in advance.

 

Never mind, found it here http://www.head-fi.org/t/627954/burson-conductor-dac-amp-successor-to-the-ha-160d/420#post_9472049


Edited by Andrew_WOT - 9/9/13 at 7:14pm
post #966 of 1662

I'm pretty sure the perceived imbalance i was hearing was in the recordings I was listening to. I guess it sounded like a problem and I continued to search for it, only making the perception seem more problematic. When the music has a well defined center, it is very focused. However, I guess that if the recording is somehow produced to have a diffuse center, the system reproduces what it receives.

 

Neurosis in remission for now:) 

post #967 of 1662
Conductor does use power from the computer contrary to all beliefs. To test this you can use an USB cable with separate power and data connections and disconnect the power. Conductor will stop working smily_headphones1.gif
post #968 of 1662
@citraian - I have cut the power from USB cable and conductor works fine hmmm
post #969 of 1662

Hmm, how did you do this? Do you have a cable like the iFi Gemini http://www.ifi-audio.com/en/Gemini.html? A friend of mine tried this with a custom cable that didn't have power wires and it didn't work.

post #970 of 1662
No power or no power AND ground?
post #971 of 1662
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Hmm, how did you do this? Do you have a cable like the iFi Gemini http://www.ifi-audio.com/en/Gemini.html? A friend of mine tried this with a custom cable that didn't have power wires and it didn't work.

I have used some stock USB cable and removed +5V pin from it. I have not removed GND nor anything else though..

post #972 of 1662

Hmm, good question. I think both (no power AND ground).

post #973 of 1662
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Originally Posted by Andrew_WOT View Post
 

After additional burn in, including running some material via native USB receiver I set up another test, this time with two inputs connected at the same time:  SPDIF from HiFace2 and USB directly from computer, so I can quickly switch between them w/o messing with cables.

And this time I really had to strain to hear any difference between the two to the point that I am not certain that I will be able to detect any during blind testing. :confused:

The only other change between two test runs, besides burning in USB receiver, was brand new laptop I've just received at work. So either change made internal USB sound at least as good as HiFace2.

 

Does anyone know if Conductor USB receiver draw power from computer?

 

I have had the hiface 2 and it didn't seem I got something better with it. With Hydra-X was a completely different story though.

post #974 of 1662
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Originally Posted by citraian View Post
 

Hmm, good question. I think both (no power AND ground).

Burson Conductor DAC USB does work without power from USB, like most modern DAC nowadays have the USB receivers an independent from 5V DC power from computer USB, what he need to work is just D+/D- line and of course GND.

post #975 of 1662
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Originally Posted by citraian View Post

Conductor does use power from the computer contrary to all beliefs. To test this you can use an USB cable with separate power and data connections and disconnect the power. Conductor will stop working smily_headphones1.gif

You only need the Data +/- and Ground connections to get the conductor to work with the Tenor.  +5V is not needed so no power is used from the computer.

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