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post #871 of 1811
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Originally Posted by fschelle View Post

I have the same problem (a relais is klicking on/off) connecting the Burson Conductor with a pro-ject CD Box S via coaxial. The pro-ject hasn't a toslink. With a Creek Evolution CD player it doesn't work at all via coax.  Only if I use parallel a toslink cable, the creek and the conductor are working. Doesn't matter if I switch to "T" or "C" on the Burson. Verz strange. Someone knows a solution? I like to use the use the pro-ject CD Box as transporter to the Burson,

Same issue here. I thought it was the Pro-Ject CD Box because other digial coaxial devices I tried worked fine.
post #872 of 1811

Let me add mine too. If I go straight to usb my Burson will just click and click. If I play music from my cd player via coaxial for 10-15 minutes first and then switch to usb no problem. Weird but it works like that.

post #873 of 1811

Guys, here are my impressions on the new Burson 1793 DAC PCB .

post #874 of 1811

Was there a recent redesign of the Conductor's main board ? When I compare mine with the pictures I can find online, there are slight differences:

 

The volume knob and front panel seems to connect on the top of the MB (both these cables where disconnected when I received the amp)

http://imgur.com/QZViuoi

 

And also, the DAC board seems to be the same design as the SL 9018 (http://bursonaudio.com/Burson_Conductor_SL9018.html)

http://imgur.com/9b7R20v

 

At first I thought I got the wrong DAC but it can be seen in the Conductor product page (in the carousel, pictures 2, 3 and 6)....

 

I do have the two analog input, and dac/preamp outputs ...


Edited by Krzys - 8/25/13 at 3:54pm
post #875 of 1811
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Originally Posted by Krzys View Post

Was there a recent redesign of the Conductor's main board ? When I compare mine with the pictures I can find online, there are slight differences:

 

The volume knob and front panel seems to connect on the top of the MB (both these cables where disconnected when I received the amp)

http://imgur.com/QZViuoi

 

And also, the DAC board seems to be the same design as the SL 9018 (http://bursonaudio.com/Burson_Conductor_SL9018.html)

http://imgur.com/9b7R20v

 

At first I thought I got the wrong DAC but it can be seen in the Conductor product page (in the carousel, pictures 2, 3 and 6)....

 

I do have the two analog input, and dac/preamp outputs ...


It does indeed look like the layout of the main board has changed.  Both of those cables come from the back of my main board.

post #876 of 1811
Quote:
Originally Posted by Krzys View Post

Was there a recent redesign of the Conductor's main board ? When I compare mine with the pictures I can find online, there are slight differences:

 

The volume knob and front panel seems to connect on the top of the MB (both these cables where disconnected when I received the amp)

http://imgur.com/QZViuoi

 

And also, the DAC board seems to be the same design as the SL 9018 (http://bursonaudio.com/Burson_Conductor_SL9018.html)

http://imgur.com/9b7R20v

 

At first I thought I got the wrong DAC but it can be seen in the Conductor product page (in the carousel, pictures 2, 3 and 6)....

 

I do have the two analog input, and dac/preamp outputs ...

You have the Sabre32 dac. All Burson Conductors (not sl) come with that DAC.

 

I don't know about any changes in design.

 

My conductor looks the same as yours:

 

 

The angle from the last pictures is misleading, as the volume  is not on top.


Edited by dan.gheorghe - 8/26/13 at 8:24am
post #877 of 1811
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Originally Posted by Krzys View Post

 

 

And also, the DAC board seems to be the same design as the SL 9018 (http://bursonaudio.com/Burson_Conductor_SL9018.html)

Because SL 9018 uses same DAC as non SL Conductor, only SL 1793 is based on PCM DAC. I know, the Conductor lineup is getting confusing. confused.gif

 

This is PCM DAC for reference

 

And Sabre


Edited by Andrew_WOT - 8/26/13 at 7:46am
post #878 of 1811

I have just bought the M1CDT from Musical Fidelity. Hope that will work. The Burson Coax seems to me very sensitive.

post #879 of 1811

Which multimedia transport with digital coax output can achieve sound results comparable with audiophilleo? If I don't plan to use the PC as player which would be the best alternative?


Edited by Gustavo - 8/29/13 at 6:09pm
post #880 of 1811

Got mine yesterday.

Quite surprised that it's that big, much bigger than Headamp GS-1, build quality also lagging behind Justin's.

USB driver is a mess, using Win7 64bit. Worked after install but after reboot computer plain refused to recognize the device, had to uninstall and install drivers back, reboot multiple times, recycle power on Burson couple of times before it came back to life. Phew, thought USB receiver quit.

I don't see ASIO driver in foobar2000, only KS and WASAPI. Burson Audio ASIO Control Panel shows driver status Non-Active/Stop. How this thing actually work, no documentation whatsoever?

RCA connectors on mine are plain white, not gold plated as on all the pictures I saw on the net. This is brand new batch from Australia. Did they make another cost cutting change?

 

Now on the sound. USB is nothing to write home about, gets better with iUSB Power. Overall sounded digital and raspy out of the box, even with coax, but I believe it smoothed out after proper warm up and some burn in.

 

Quick impressions using iFi iLink USB/SPDIF converter against Chord DAC64/GS-1 with new modules.

They are actually pretty close but off the bat sounds that Headamp/Chord DAC64 combo has an edge over Burson.

- Chord - More expansive soundstage, 3-D like precise positioning. On Burson things get busy at times, competing for attention in smaller space, essentially not as great at instruments separation.

- Chord - Sounds more laid back, vs closed in, immediate presentation of Burson

- Chord - More analogue, fluid sound, Burson still has a hint of digital harshness.

 

Need more headtime and burn in to confirm my initial findings.

 

EDIT: Almost forgot to mention how crappy and stiff the Burson DACT is in comparison to DACT on GS-1.


Edited by Andrew_WOT - 8/30/13 at 8:10am
post #881 of 1811
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Originally Posted by Andrew_WOT View Post

Got mine yesterday.

Quite surprised that it's that big, much bigger than Headamp GS-1, build quality also lagging behind Justin's.

USB driver is a mess, using Win7 64bit. Worked after install but after reboot computer plain refused to recognize the device, had to uninstall and install drivers back, reboot multiple times, recycle power on Burson couple of times before it came back to life. Phew, thought USB receiver quit.

I don't see ASIO driver in foobar2000, only KS and WASAPI. Burson Audio ASIO Control Panel shows driver status Non-Active/Stop. How this thing actually work, no documentation whatsoever?

RCA connectors on mine are plain white, not gold plated as on all the pictures I saw on the net. This is brand new batch from Australia. Did they make another cost cutting change?

 

Now on the sound. USB is nothing to write home about, gets better with iUSB Power. Overall sounded digital and raspy out of the box, even with coax, but I believe it smoothed out after proper warm up and some burn in.

 

Quick impressions using iFi iLink USB/SPDIF converter against Chord DAC64/GS-1 with new modules.

They are actually pretty close but off the bat sounds that Headamp/Chord DAC64 combo has an edge over Burson.

- Chord - More expansive soundstage, 3-D like precise positioning

- Chord - Sounds more laid back, vs closed in, immediate presentation of Burson

- Chord - More analogue, fluid sound, Burson still has a hint of digital harshness.

 

Need more headtime and burn in to confirm my initial findings.

 

EDIT: Almost forgot to mention how crappy and stiff the Burson DACT is in comparison to DACT on GS-1.

Hang in there. Burson starts to shine after 80h of burn in. 

 

Another thing, to get the best out of it, you must get a good usb interface like ap2, puc2, hydra-x. It takes the dac to another level. Much better than the usb input.

 

Edit...ah ifi usb might do just that. Never heard it. Is it a big difference with it than the usb input from burson?


Edited by dan.gheorghe - 8/30/13 at 8:11am
post #882 of 1811

I was dead set on returning mine after I listened to it out of box until someone here convinced me to give it time to burn in.  I've never seen such a radical example of how much difference burn-in can make.  I can't see any reason to ever part with it now.
 

post #883 of 1811
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Originally Posted by dan.gheorghe View Post

Hang in there. Burson starts to shine after 80h of burn in. 

 

Another thing, to get the best out of it, you must get a good usb interface like ap2, puc2, hydra-x. It takes the dac to another level. Much better than the usb input.

 

Edit...ah ifi usb might do just that. Never heard it. Is it a big difference with it than the usb input from burson?


It's iUSB with iLink combo. Based on some reports it outperforms AP and W4S uLink, haven't used those to vouch, but it definitely outshines HiFace2.

Any ideas on how to enable ASIO?

Also are RCA connectors supposed to be gold plated?

post #884 of 1811
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Originally Posted by Andrew_WOT View Post


It's iUSB with iLink combo. Based on some reports it outperforms AP and W4S uLink, haven't used those to vouch, but it definitely outshines HiFace2.

Any ideas on how to enable ASIO?

Also are RCA connectors supposed to be gold plated?

Have you installed asio for foobar first? After you install this component and the drivers from burson you should see burson asio in output.

 

I don't think it is a must for the rca connectors to be gold plated.

 

About the ifi, after you let the burson burn in, try the usb input directly instead of ifi + coax. There should be a big difference between the two.

post #885 of 1811
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Originally Posted by dan.gheorghe View Post

Have you installed asio for foobar first? After you install this component and the drivers from burson you should see burson asio in output.

 

I don't think it is a must for the rca connectors to be gold plated.

 

About the ifi, after you let the burson burn in, try the usb input directly instead of ifi + coax. There should be a big difference between the two.


Yes, I have asio component installed. Can use both HiFace2 and iLink in ASIO mode, Burson just plain refuses to show up there.

Plus Burson ASIO CPL shows Non-Active in driver status, which makes me think that it's not foobar2000 related, more like a system issue. confused.gif

I've been using the latest Tenor driver from Burson site, btw.

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