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post #316 of 1825
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Originally Posted by WALL-E View Post

The huge is maybe not right word, in general TosLink standard itself is to blame. John Atkinson in Stereophile no.12.2010 during the multi test of several USB interfaces and DACs tested the output of his MacBook via TosLink, used professional audio test devices such as the Audio Precision, showed the jitter 1049ps p-p. Jitter over 1000ps is a lot when u compare to the good cd/sacd player, couple of hundred ps p-p, and with some DACs can drops to tens!
On the other hand, Macbook has much better optical output then most of pc/laptops built-in s/pdif toslink module.

well, for example, if you check FAQ section on Schiit website for their DACs, they admit that USB connection yields lesser sound comparing to SPDIF, and suggest to mac users to use toslink connection. 

post #317 of 1825
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Originally Posted by bbbonthemoon View Post

well, for example, if you check FAQ section on Schiit website for their DACs, they admit that USB connection yields lesser sound comparing to SPDIF, and suggest to mac users to use toslink connection. 


Largely the result will be dependent on the implementation, a well implemented asynchronous USB input should be better than a well implemented S/PDIF interface or at least similar IMO, technically both are capable of bit perfect transmission with low jitter. Don't no Schiit but Conductor USB no doubt, belongs to the well implemented! Burson even went a step ahead making the USB receiver an independent from 5V DC power from USB (computer), getting rid of the + 5V line of a USB reduce the amount of electrical noise comes from the computer.

post #318 of 1825

For anyone interested on the Conductor + LCD-3 combination, this guy seems to cover that into details. (and sensitive iems as well)

 

Part time audiophile, burson conductor

 

Not surprised. The soloist as a standalone amp does a good job. 

post #319 of 1825

I'm really hoping for a driver update soon. Anyone have any news about when it will be released?

post #320 of 1825

Received my Conductor today,

I'm yet to build up my listening impressions, but build/materials quality are quite impressive, makes my schiit bifrost/valhalla stack look really poor in comparison

post #321 of 1825
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Originally Posted by bbbonthemoon View Post

Received my Conductor today,

I'm yet to build up my listening impressions, but build/materials quality are quite impressive, makes my schiit bifrost/valhalla stack look really poor in comparison


Congrats and welcome to the club L3000.gif

post #322 of 1825
I installed a Synergy Hifi/Create Audio fuse into the Conductor this week. I listened to a few of my reference beforehand - expecting any difference to be slight. But I was inpressed by the increase in resolution and power (no A-B-A comparisons needed). I had to take the volume down a couple notches (on low gain). This is the first fuse I have bought, so don't know how it compares to others.

I bought mine direct from Synergy Hifi (apparently the $10 Valab eBay Create Audio are knock offs). The fuse is directional - plain to hear. I have mine with the arrow pointing right and the logo the right way up - as you look at it from the back of the Conductor). The fuse cost US$35 delivered. Great bang for the buck - highly recommended.

I am surprised that any company would compromise their equipment with such a restrictive fuse.

I'm also looking forward to hearing what the new Mac driver might do. Is it said to improve the sound or just improve stability?
post #323 of 1825

Has anyone compared the Conductor to the Audio gd NFB-27?  I think they both use the same DAC chip.  Looking for the best all in one unit SQ wise.

 

Use to own the 160D, sold it after a while.  Didn't like it so much.  Hoping that Burson improved on it's all in one units.

post #324 of 1825
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post

Has anyone compared the Conductor to the Audio gd NFB-27?  I think they both use the same DAC chip.  Looking for the best all in one unit SQ wise.

 

Use to own the 160D, sold it after a while.  Didn't like it so much.  Hoping that Burson improved on it's all in one units.

Never heard the Audio gd, but had the ha-160ds and auditioned the 160d. I have the Conductor now and it is much better than bot the 160D and DS. Both amplifier and DAC are great on it. I really think the Conductor is under-rated on headfi and it can trump a lot of more expensive gear :D

post #325 of 1825
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Originally Posted by dan.gheorghe View Post

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Originally Posted by preproman View Post

Has anyone compared the Conductor to the Audio gd NFB-27?  I think they both use the same DAC chip.  Looking for the best all in one unit SQ wise.

 

Use to own the 160D, sold it after a while.  Didn't like it so much.  Hoping that Burson improved on it's all in one units.

Never heard the Audio gd, but had the ha-160ds and auditioned the 160d. I have the Conductor now and it is much better than bot the 160D and DS. Both amplifier and DAC are great on it. I really think the Conductor is under-rated on headfi and it can trump a lot of more expensive gear :D

 

I think the problem was that the Burson gear was hyped up a lot by sites such as 6moons.  It'd be interesting to get impressions of it compared to more expensive gear. 

post #326 of 1825

If someone is willing to lend me his Conductor, I can compare the two etysmile.gif

 

I read some felt the DAC part of the Conductor does not match the amp performance. Yet, In the 6moons review they compare it to the Eximus and also the Metrum Hex (DAC only) for the "sweet n' romantic tone".

It also earned the "Headfonia's Chief editor #1 recommandation" ph34r.gif 

 

Darryl: since when do you have single ended headphones? biggrin.gif

 

Edit: I'm sure you put the Anedio D2 and Fostex HP-A8 in the list (all SE though).


Edited by Clemmaster - 4/29/13 at 12:48am
post #327 of 1825
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Originally Posted by Clemmaster View Post

If someone is willing to lend me his Conductor, I can compare the two etysmile.gif

 

I read some felt the DAC part of the Conductor does not match the amp performance. Yet, In the 6moons review they compare it to the Eximus and also the Metrum Hex (DAC only) for the "sweet n' romantic tone".

It also earned the "Headfonia's Chief editor #1 recommandation" ph34r.gif 

 

Darryl: since when do you have single ended headphones? biggrin.gif

 

Edit: I'm sure you put the Anedio D2 and Fostex HP-A8 in the list (all SE though).

Actually one of the main reasons I said Conductor is underrated is the DAC section which personally I think it is excellent. 

post #328 of 1825

I don't.  But I have a XLR to SE adapter.  I'm looking for amps that have DAC sections, not DACs that have amp sections.  If that makes any sense..  The D2 is a very good DAC, with just an OK amp section.  Don't know anything about the Fostex..

 

The Conductor and the NFB-27 are both Amps firsts..

post #329 of 1825
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post

I don't.  But I have a XLR to SE adapter.  I'm looking for amps that have DAC sections, not DACs that have amp sections.  If that makes any sense..  The D2 is a very good DAC, with just an OK amp section.  Don't know anything about the Fostex..

 

The Conductor and the NFB-27 are both Amps firsts..

 

Alright ;)

 

Actually, I don't know if the NFB-27 really is amp first. I mostly use its DAC (when paired with the SA-31) and it actually performs really well!

post #330 of 1825

Ah, you never can tell with the Audio gd stuff.  Being able to put out 6 wpc into 50ohms and being a fully balanced amp also reading the summary - From first looks it seems like an amp first.  But I could be wrong..

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