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post #241 of 1665
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Originally Posted by BRAC View Post

Would a Conductor be better than a Soloist/Bifrost combo?

 

Having heard both the Soloist and Conductor, and had trouble with the DAC, I would probably suggest going with the soloist and a separate DAC.
Haven't heard the Bifrost tho so I can't comment on that.

That said, I really liked the Soloist and preferred it over the Auralic Taurus and Schiit Mjolnir :-)
post #242 of 1665
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Originally Posted by CybDev View Post


Having heard both the Soloist and Conductor, and had trouble with the DAC, I would probably suggest going with the soloist and a separate DAC.
Haven't heard the Bifrost tho so I can't comment on that.

That said, I really liked the Soloist and preferred it over the Auralic Taurus and Schiit Mjolnir :-)


Yes, that's exactly what I did. I already have a Bifrost, so I just went ahead and ordered a Soloist. I actually noticed the same thing you just mentioned, that being, a number of folks are having issues with the dac section in the Conductor. I only asked because I was debating selling my Bifrost and then going with the all-in-one-box Conductor. Just as well, because this way I can sell the Bifrost and try any dac that may interest me later on. Of coarse, that would only be if I'm underwhelmed with the performance of the Bifrost. I suppose it's a good idea to keep my options opened anyway.

 

Btw, I appreciate the heads up. Thanks. 

post #243 of 1665
Power conditioning

The Conductor seems to respond a little differently to my power conditioner than the HA-160D did. I'm not sure how useful this is to others, but thought it might be worth experimenting with your conditioner to see how it plays with the Conductor.

Blue Citcle Sillycone

The glare in the treble that had been plaguing me disappeared completely when I pulled out my Blue Circle x6 Sillycone filter. Sadly, the life and dynamics went too.

The impact of the conditioner is much more dramatic with the Conductor compared to the 160D.

I am using a power strip with two pairs side to side in a square. The Sillycone is in the first pair and had the Conductor behind it to get the most conditioning. I've moved the Conductor to the front next to the Sillycone filter.

This seems to have worked well - the treble is much smoother than before and the life and dynamics are back.
post #244 of 1665

I have negated the DAC issues of the Conductor by avoiding usb and going spdif with the Audiophilleo 2....an expensive solution but the results are terrific.....

post #245 of 1665

Sorry I cannot concur with all the excellent reviews posted here by aficianados of this unit.  I bought one, thinking that now that I've moved up from HD600s to HD800s I need a better amp than my little Creek OBH-11.  There may well be better amps for the HD800s but I don't find this model to be one of them.  The Creek has better clarity, detailing and slam than the Burson HA160D and that is all she wrote.  I have gone back to the Creek.  Am thinking of looking at Grace next; this time I will listen before I buy, rather than just read reviews.

 

I imagine the Burson is a satisfactory amp for many, perhaps not for high impedance cans like the Sens.  I am not sure yet just what the problem is.  I love the connectivity though I haven't yet used a digital source.  I have run both my Oppo 95 and Denon 3930 through the Burson, both using their own DACs and the Burson's.  Since the Denon and the Burson both rely on the same Burr-Brown chip, I can hear no difference either way.  I get pretty much the same result whether I am using HD600s or HD800s.

post #246 of 1665

the Conductor is a completely different bird from the HA-160D that it replaced....both the amp and dac have been completely changed

post #247 of 1665

King of Pangaea,

 

Wrong Burson...the Conductor, which replaces the HA-160D, uses the ESS Sabre32 chip, not the Burr-Brown.  The older 3 in 1 model Burson, HA-160D, did use the Burr-Brown chip.  The headamp in the Conductor is the same as the Soloist whereas the HA-160D used the HA-160 headamp I believe.

 

Give the Conductor a shot...you might change your mind!

post #248 of 1665

I had the HA-160DS and also auditioned the 160D. Conductor is in a completely different league. If I did not like the HD800 with 160DS or 160D, I just love it with Conductor. It completely changes its sound. I am working on a comparison between the HD800 and LCD2 on Conductor right now. All I can say is that both sound absolutely awesome with it. Any headphone I thrown at it, Conductor did an A+++ job (from IEMS, to K550, Momentum, LCD2,LCD3, HD800, etc). Some even say it does a decent job with he6.

post #249 of 1665
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Originally Posted by dan.gheorghe View Post

I had the HA-160DS and also auditioned the 160D. Conductor is in a completely different league. If I did not like the HD800 with 160DS or 160D, I just love it with Conductor. It completely changes its sound. I am working on a comparison between the HD800 and LCD2 on Conductor right now. All I can say is that both sound absolutely awesome with it. Any headphone I thrown at it, Conductor did an A+++ job (from IEMS, to K550, Momentum, LCD2,LCD3, HD800, etc). Some even say it does a decent job with he6.


Nice! I'm doing the same comparison, but with a Soloist/Bifrost combo. I must say, the Soloist has made my HD800 enjoyable again. I didn't like the HD800 at all with my HA160. It would give me headaches during longer sessions. My LCD2.2 on the other hand, even though it was already good with my HA160, also sounds much better with the Soloist.

 

King of Pangaea, the Soloist(aka Conductor, minus the DAC section) is a huge step up from the HA160 line.

post #250 of 1665

What is needed is a HA160D with a new amp section.  I heard no difference  listening to my HD800s through either digital or analog inputs from my Denon.  I don't think the chip was the difference.  I hear a great difference through a different amp,the Creek though.

I love the connectivity of the 160D and the new one, the Soloist? didn't have all that.

post #251 of 1665
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Originally Posted by King of Pangaea View Post

What is needed is a HA160D with a new amp section.  I heard no difference  listening to my HD800s through either digital or analog inputs from my Denon.  I don't think the chip was the difference.  I hear a great difference through a different amp,the Creek though.

I love the connectivity of the 160D and the new one, the Soloist? didn't have all that.


What? The Soloist is an amp / preamp. The HA160D is an amp / preamp / DAC. The connectivity is not the same due to the added DAC in the 160D. The Conductor would be the full upgrade to the HA160D.

post #252 of 1665

Halo,  I’m going to replace the power cable and also upgrade the fuse in my new Burson Conductor and would like to know what is the fuse rating for European 230V version?
According to User Manual  US/Australian version is 3A Fast Blow type, but I guess EU version will be different?
 

Exactly the same query I sent to Burson customer care  almost one week ago and no answer on my e-mail!?

From what I know, current at 230V is half what it would be at 115V, so the fuse (F3A\250V user manual) current rating needs to be reduced by 50% for the EU I guess.

I checked in my Conductor and it is F2A/250V what it would be correct I think. Can someone check it the Conductor EU version what fuse is in it?
Thanks.

post #253 of 1665
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Originally Posted by BRAC View Post


Nice! I'm doing the same comparison, but with a Soloist/Bifrost combo. I must say, the Soloist has made my HD800 enjoyable again. I didn't like the HD800 at all with my HA160. It would give me headaches during longer sessions. My LCD2.2 on the other hand, even though it was already good with my HA160, also sounds much better with the Soloist.

 

King of Pangaea, the Soloist(aka Conductor, minus the DAC section) is a huge step up from the HA160 line.

I have finished my take on HD800 & LCD2 with Conductor. You can read it on headfi or on my blog biggrin.gif That was my impression of HD800 too with the ha-160ds.


Edited by dan.gheorghe - 2/24/13 at 10:22am
post #254 of 1665
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Originally Posted by dan.gheorghe View Post

I have finished my take on HD800 & LCD2 with Conductor. You can read it on headfi or on my blog biggrin.gif That was my impressions of HD800 too with the ha-160ds.


+1. Yes, I just finished reading it. Very nice review and I agree with a lot of what you said there.

post #255 of 1665

I just finished looking at the "Conductor".  Hadn't heard of this one yet.  I'll have to schlep my phones around to a dealer that has somewhere and try it out.  The Toslink addition is nice but I wish they had maintained the 3 analog ins of the 160D.  I think the main issue for me was the sound of the amp, not the DAC.  Have to see.

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