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post #181 of 1816

Felt like this thread could do with some pictures smile.gif

 

 

 

 

 

 

post #182 of 1816

Nice pictures there. It sure is a nice piece of gear.

 

I for one am happy to report that the new drivers from Burson work just fine on windows 8 and that the artefacts are gone, for now, even if i use the Conductor as default playback device in windows, or if I change it during playback.

post #183 of 1816

How many of you are using JPLAY as your player with the Conductor?

post #184 of 1816
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Originally Posted by germay0653 View Post

How many of you are using JPLAY as your player with the Conductor?

I use it sometimes.  In windows 7 i found it to make quite a positive difference.

Windows 8 seems to have a better audio playback than windows 7. I find jplay to still make a difference, but a smaller one in w8 than w7.

post #185 of 1816

Guys, I have a noob question... biggrin.gif . I heard someone using hd800 from Vaughan's balanced pre-amp . Is it possible using headphones from Conductors' pre-amp? What power output does Conductor have on pre-amp? I heard about 10W. Wouldn't it be good with a Hifiman HE6 for example? What about other headphones?


Edited by dan.gheorghe - 1/28/13 at 6:34am
post #186 of 1816
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Originally Posted by dan.gheorghe View Post

Guys, I have a noob question... biggrin.gif . I heard someone using hd800 from Vaughan's balanced pre-amp . Is it possible using headphones from Conductors' pre-amp? What power output does Conductor have on pre-amp? I heard about 10W. Wouldn't it be good with a Hifiman HE6 for example? What about other headphones?

I don't see any point using the pre out for headphones, when you already have a very good HP output (with less than 1 Ohm output impedance). When I use the HE-6, I can't hear any less power or bass compared to my Audio-gd Master-6, which delivers 7W in 50 Ohm. Pre out is still single ended output. If you want to drive your headphones balanced - then get a balanced headphone amp (like the Master-6) and preferably also a DAC with balanced output.

post #187 of 1816
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Originally Posted by LarsHP View Post

I don't see any point using the pre out for headphones, when you already have a very good HP output (with less than 1 Ohm output impedance). When I use the HE-6, I can't hear any less power or bass compared to my Audio-gd Master-6, which delivers 7W in 50 Ohm. Pre out is still single ended output. If you want to drive your headphones balanced - then get a balanced headphone amp (like the Master-6) and preferably also a DAC with balanced output.

Thanks Lars. I won't be trying that with mine, but I was just curios about it biggrin.gif. Interesting what you say about Conductor and HE6. You are not the first stating that he6 is driven well by it. biggrin.gif Nice... Maybe i'll give he6 a chance some day.

post #188 of 1816
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Originally Posted by dan.gheorghe View Post

Guys, I have a noob question... biggrin.gif . I heard someone using hd800 from Vaughan's balanced pre-amp . Is it possible using headphones from Conductors' pre-amp? What power output does Conductor have on pre-amp? I heard about 10W. Wouldn't it be good with a Hifiman HE6 for example? What about other headphones?

 

Where did you hear that?

 

Preamps have high output impedance and no drive capacity (as the name indicate, they are meant to be plugged into a power amp).

post #189 of 1816

When using JPLAY with the Conductor are you experiencing any Blue Screen of Death (BSOD) errors with Hi-res files, 24 bit - 96Khz or 24 bit - 192Khz?  I previously thought the new W8 driver was 64 bit but it's still only 32 bit!  Are you running W8 64 bit or 32 bit?

post #190 of 1816
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Originally Posted by germay0653 View Post

When using JPLAY with the Conductor are you experiencing any Blue Screen of Death (BSOD) errors with Hi-res files, 24 bit - 96Khz or 24 bit - 192Khz?  I previously thought the new W8 driver was 64 bit but it's still only 32 bit!  Are you running W8 64 bit or 32 bit?

I am running w8 64 bit. Jplay usually runs well with a few timeout exception it gives in foobar2000. I experience bsods only if I set the engine to "Xtream" and the buffer to DirectLink. If i set Xtream and 256 samples all is fine.


Quality wise do you hear any difference between jplay and burson asio ? What are those?

post #191 of 1816

I am having the same issues with the small sample sizes regardless of engine.  I still, occasionally, have a BSOD (0x24b10002) with the 256 sample size.  Burson is working with Tenor, the maker of the USB interface, to try to address those issues.

 

I do hear slightly more detail and soundstaging using the JPLAY plugin for JRiver and again slightly more than JRiver with JPLAY plugin using JPLAYmini as opposed to JRiver with the Burson ASIO driver.  The best way I can descibe the "more" is presence, closer to what I hear at a live performance.


Edited by germay0653 - 1/28/13 at 3:46pm
post #192 of 1816
Wow, driver issues don't sound fun. And no easy American customer service is not appealing as I live in the USA. But still, seams as though those are not quite enough reason to jump ship. Driver issues can and do get better but only if they actively work on it. Does Burson do this? Running Windows 8 64-Bit and a recent Mac.

Even if I were to choose another unit, which should I even get? What other 3 in 1 like devices are even out? Between $900 and $2K? The only others on my radar besides the Conductor was the Centrence and the Grace brands as I need great DAC/Pre/Headphone abilities, or rather that is ideal. The Centrence DAC Mini seems like a good deal, but seems to not be better than the Conductor or other more expensive models, and the Grace 903m seems to not have a premium volume knob. How is the volume knob on the Bursons? Any other models I should consider or leave out?
Edited by Neo Zuko - 1/28/13 at 5:23pm
post #193 of 1816

Hey Neo Zuko,

 

The Burson team provides excellent customer service.  No issues there even though they're based in Australia.  The maker of the USB interface, Tenor, is the one providing the USB driver and they have a good working relationship with Burson.  Again, no worries there.  The only concern I have is the time it may take to resolve the driver issue.  The JPLAY player is a very low latency player and for some reason the Tenor driver can't seem to handle that (very fast) low latency.

 

I'm in no way about to jump ship on Burson.  The quality of the build and the sound, for me, is just too good for the price of admission.  In my opinion, to get anything better would require a more substantial outlay of cash.  The volume control is a stepped attenuator.  It clicks through detented positions during increase and decrease and the old version may have been a problem over time on older Burson products (this could be remedied by the way) but not on the Conductor.

 

I can't speak to the CEntrance or the Grace as I've never heard them.  If you can audition them beforehand I would recommend doing that with your own headphones and your own music.  Also, reach out to others on the boards for their opinions but realize perception of sound is a very personal thing and what sounds good to someone else may not sound good to you.  If at all possible, try before you buy.

 

What headphones do you use?

post #194 of 1816
I was just wary of no easy USA service, but good to hear your endorsement. No headphones yet, I intend to buy the IE 800 for my iPhone and one of LCD 2 / LCD 3 / HD 700 choices for my Conductor. I've yet to buy anything yet, just getting the plan together. I really want to use the pre amp section with some Kef LS50's and the DAC section with my custom PC. And have the headphone section for those roommates not letting me rock out!! And I want that Timekeeper Burson PowerAmp to go with it, when they release it.
Edited by Neo Zuko - 1/28/13 at 6:03pm
post #195 of 1816
Oh and what is jplay and how is it better than VLC?
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