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post #1411 of 1991

I am curious what dynamic range on the dr scale they have : http://dr.loudness-war.info/

 

In the right upper corner you can find a plugin for foobar or windows/mac software to calculate the dr. 

post #1412 of 1991
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Originally Posted by dan.gheorghe View Post

I am curious what dynamic range on the dr scale they have : http://dr.loudness-war.info/



 



In the right upper corner you can find a plugin for foobar or windows/mac software to calculate the dr. 


 



+1

I would be curious as well, chances are it was a poor recording. HDTracks definately takes some flack for some poor releases, but for the most part the versions they offer are usually as good, or better, than what else is available. I always wait to see the DR and some general reviews on a new release though before purchasing from HDTracks because I have gotten some stinkers myself too.
post #1413 of 1991

Any advice on installing this thing via USB painlessly? I just rented a Conductor unit and the drivers don't want to work for anything. Looked online and I've seen two horror stories about the drivers involving malware and crashes.

 

I'm going to check stuff out via coax output (to test the DAC + headphone output) and then I'll use my external DAC (Peachtree Dac-It) to test the amp section afterwards, but the thing isn't off to a good start with the USB. It's the first desktop audio product I've had this issue with on the drivers.

 

It's built like a tank though, I'll give it that.

post #1414 of 1991
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Originally Posted by GoldfishX View Post
 

Any advice on installing this thing via USB painlessly? I just rented a Conductor unit and the drivers don't want to work for anything. Looked online and I've seen two horror stories about the drivers involving malware and crashes.

 

I'm going to check stuff out via coax output (to test the DAC + headphone output) and then I'll use my external DAC (Peachtree Dac-It) to test the amp section afterwards, but the thing isn't off to a good start with the USB. It's the first desktop audio product I've had this issue with on the drivers.

 

It's built like a tank though, I'll give it that.

Fish - Sorry to hear about your problems. I apologize if this sounds too basic, but just want to make sure you've checked off some key steps and I don't know your computer experience level. Also the below comments are for Windows based machines - I'm not a Mac guy. 

 

First, I assume you downloaded the driver from the website the point you towards? That site is a bit of a disaster and you have to stay away from the strange offers, etc. 

Second, did you unzip the driver package? After downloading you have to unzip the files so that you get to the "setup" file for the correct operating system.

Third, did you run the setup and go through the Burson "setup wizard"? There is a number of steps you have to follow there.  

Fourth, did you check to see if the system was pointed towards the right component? Under Control Panel, click on "sound" and see if it lists the playback device as the Burson. 

 

If you've done all of those things and it still isn't working then you'll likely need deeper technical support. I've had decent luck conversing with the Burson crew, although you have to remember their night is our day and vice versa, so there's a bit of a lag in their responses. 

 

Hope this helps with your troubleshooting! 

post #1415 of 1991

If your running Vista on your PC and the latest USB module CM6631A is in the Conductor you will have a compatibility problems you will have to run in compatibily mode to get the drivers installed and when you do you wont have all sample rates 88 and 176 will not be there here are post relating to this if your running Vista. #1188, #1189, #1217, #1282.

post #1416 of 1991

Sounds like a real pain.  Really liked the Soloist when I had it, and I've been considering either the conductor/benchmark2 for a desktop unit for a while now, but driver issues do annoy me. 

 

Wonder if Burson plans to release anything new or update their units. 

post #1417 of 1991
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Originally Posted by barid View Post
 

Sounds like a real pain.  Really liked the Soloist when I had it, and I've been considering either the conductor/benchmark2 for a desktop unit for a while now, but driver issues do annoy me. 

 

Wonder if Burson plans to release anything new or update their units. 

Once you know what to expect  for instance i never had any issues with original usb module and when i upgrade to windows 7 everything should  be ok with the new usb module i should get those sampling rates back also reviews from several members of this thread are positive regarding the new usb module .What  annoyed me was a noisy 24 step attenuator it seems not everybody has that annoyance what i did is to have a Khozmo 50 k 48 step attenuator installed it still has pops but you dont ear them when music is playing.                                                                                                                          


Edited by MIKELAP - 1/29/14 at 9:43am
post #1418 of 1991

Thanks! I have grabbed the folder, but I missed the .exe file. Worked like a charm.

 

I'm testing the USB input from my computer with my HD800. It has one of the best sounding USB implementations I've heard so far, virtually no digital harshness (the USB implementation on the Dac-It is ass in comparison, as much as I love the coax input on it). The pairing is bright and analytical, most definitely, but that feels like the "natural" brightness of the HD800, which tends to be really revealing. Nice, tight low end and superb decays, very musical, very effortless, very nimble. The Conductor and the HD800 feel like they're trying to work together, but are having presentation disagreements. Very...interesting.

 

I need to bring my Mad Dogs home from work and spin them on it. I have a feeling the brightness and power of this thing should be a good match for them.

post #1419 of 1991
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Originally Posted by GoldfishX View Post
 

Thanks! I have grabbed the folder, but I missed the .exe file. Worked like a charm.

 

I'm testing the USB input from my computer with my HD800. It has one of the best sounding USB implementations I've heard so far, virtually no digital harshness (the USB implementation on the Dac-It is ass in comparison, as much as I love the coax input on it). The pairing is bright and analytical, most definitely, but that feels like the "natural" brightness of the HD800, which tends to be really revealing. Nice, tight low end and superb decays, very musical, very effortless, very nimble. The Conductor and the HD800 feel like they're trying to work together, but are having presentation disagreements. Very...interesting.

 

I need to bring my Mad Dogs home from work and spin them on it. I have a feeling the brightness and power of this thing should be a good match for them.

Fish - Great news and so happy I was able to help. 

 

My Conductor is paired currently with HD650's, and they seem to be tag-teaming well. Can see how the "revealing x 2" of the Conductor and the HD800 might be "interesting". Have you tried any cable upgrades? I have Moon Audio Silver Dragon V3's for my HD650's as they add more "brightness" IMO to the "darker" 650's. Maybe the copper Black Dragon V2 would be a good way to help your Conductor and 800's play nicely in the sandbox? Drew from Moon Audio generally gives solid advice and he recommends the Black Dragon as the best match to the HD800's (versus the Silver Dragon for the 650's as well as the LCD's). 

 

I've also just ordered the new CM6631A USB module for the Conductor and will see what difference that makes. Even if it's just a slight upgrade it's hard to beat the price of $65 shipped. 

 

Good luck and happy listening!

post #1420 of 1991

MikeLap - Thanks for the info on the different attenuator, although I have to also curse you in the same breath as now I notice the "pops" more since you brought it up!  :basshead:

 

But seriously it doesn't really bother me. I think. Agggghhh! 

 

Anyway, did you install the other attenuator yourself? 

post #1421 of 1991
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Originally Posted by mscott58 View Post
 

MikeLap - Thanks for the info on the different attenuator, although I have to also curse you in the same breath as now I notice the "pops" more since you brought it up!  :basshead:

 

But seriously it doesn't really bother me. I think. Agggghhh! 

 

Anyway, did you install the other attenuator yourself? 

Sorry about that to be honest at first it didnt bother me either  but eventually it drove me nuts because it was loud Burson told me to lube it with 3 in 1 oil it worked for a bit but poping returned whithin days and also when you take things apart to often its a accident waiting to happen  and it happened when you lube the attenuator you have to loosen 2 screws with nuts but you cannot grab the nuts with nothing theres no room what i did is take a small flat screw driver and put it on flat part of nut but it slipped and i broke off one side of the resistor that was it couldnt use it anymore maybe subconsciously i did it unperpose lol ,so i had the KHOZMO installed by PARTS CONNEXION attenuator is $179.00 +install around $80.00 and shipping both ways for the amp maybe that will make you think and say well finally its not so bad lol. Heres a picture of the attenuator and the screws you have to loosen  .                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Also when i had the job done they installed an other volume knob because they said the old one  didnt fit on the new shaft  and they charged me for it when i got the amp back i check that out and i removed maybe .015 thousands of material in old knob for it to fit so finally they didnt try to hard .Hows does the saying goe IF YOU WANT TO GET SOMETHING DONE RIGHT BETTER DO IT YOURSELF .                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             


Edited by MIKELAP - 1/29/14 at 7:42pm
post #1422 of 1991

Thanks for the follow-up. Must have been one of those "oh-crap" moments when that screwdriver slipped...but maybe it was your subconscious taking over!

 

That attenuator looks familiar, as I was sent one of the "demo" Conductors with the clear top and the LED's so I can look right in and see it. Pretty cool to see the guts, but the LEDs are actually really bright. Have a piece of black felt I put over it at night. Worse problems to have though...

post #1423 of 1991
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Originally Posted by mscott58 View Post
 

Thanks for the follow-up. Must have been one of those "oh-crap" moments when that screwdriver slipped...but maybe it was your subconscious taking over!

 

That attenuator looks familiar, as I was sent one of the "demo" Conductors with the clear top and the LED's so I can look right in and see it. Pretty cool to see the guts, but the LEDs are actually really bright. Have a piece of black felt I put over it at night. Worse problems to have though...

 

This is the kind that the Cable Company lends out. I can look right in and see all the boards. At first, I was worried whether or not they sent me the right unit. And yes, it is EXTREMELY bright (the lights). I put my V200 on top of it. Looks like a really cool stack, actually.

 

I noticed some pops with the HD800 when I was volume-surfing. I kind of expected it, have heard about that issue before (I had sampled a Soloist before, sadly it was hooked up to a poor DAC so I didn't really get to hear much of its ability at the time).

 

I tried it with the AD2000X, but the sound is too "in your face" to be enjoyable (the AD2000x drivers are very close to the ears). I kind of expected that though. I feel naked without my Mad Dogs right now, lol

post #1424 of 1991

Guess who has some LCD-3's coming in a few days! :beyersmile:

 

Can't wait to get them burned in and then see how well they play with the Conductor. 

post #1425 of 1991

Does anyone else get bursts of static from time to time with the Conductor? Seems to happen either when I pause my music and then restart it or also sometimes when I first turn it on. Really annoying, and I've gotten to the point where I don't even put my headphones on until I hit play, just so I don't get ear shattering bursts of static in my ears. Curious if anyone else has this problem and if the upgraded USB module would correct it if so.

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