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post #1126 of 1893
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Originally Posted by Andrew_WOT View Post
 


I personally give more weight to my own experience than anyone else comments. I have made one mistake buying Conductor based on glowing comments on how great its DAC is in this very thread, then the second one buying quite expensive USB/SPDIF converter to make up for so called USB receiver deficiency.

Helped just as much as lipstick on the pig.

For me the lesson learned - get a better DAC and don't fall for that "better cable/converter/power supply" tweaks, in the end you'll spend more for a very marginal improvement.

 Dude, get your ears checked! Just kidding. Truly great sound is expensive. Once heard it becomes easy to find the faults in lesser cost equipment. I think the largest percentage of those here believe the Conductor achieves' the experience they paid for. You did not. I believe you. Although I disagree about the pig part, I value your opinion. LOL


Edited by RubyTiger - 10/14/13 at 8:45am
post #1127 of 1893
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Originally Posted by MIKELAP View Post
 

http://bursonaudio.com/6631USB_PCB.htm            With installation guide and driver download.http://bursonaudio.com/Downloads.html                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  

 

I don't get why the top panel of the Conductor needs removing? It looks like the install takes places from the underside. 

 

I guess the new module needs no driver for Mac? This is a plus. 

 

Also, note this is not a picture of the actual module. The Burson one is just USB. 


Edited by phototristan - 10/14/13 at 10:19am
post #1128 of 1893
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Originally Posted by DarKu View Post
PS: Andrew_WOT (ex cheburashka - friend with crocodile Ghena :regular_smile :)

I feel sorry now that I recommended Conductor to you and it wasn't on your expectation level. However DAC64 and Vega are top of the line DACs, Conductor is not really there on DAC part, but I feel that it is very good for what it is and at that price level.

I'm sure DAC64 and Vega are better, I heard newest QBD76 HDSD and was blow away by its performance, if DAC64 is at least 85-90% from that, then it should be really good.

 

Please don't be, I just perhaps had unreasonably high expectations for the DAC section specifically, mostly because of the 6 moons review, and some comments on Burson site, if not them I'd end up with NAD-M51.

The amp is actually top notch and as a whole package it is a hard to beat value, in fact I don't think there is anything available on the market right now combining stunning Class-A amp and a very decent DAC.

Peace :beerchug: 


Edited by Andrew_WOT - 10/14/13 at 12:56pm
post #1129 of 1893
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Originally Posted by phototristan View Post
 

 

I don't get why the top panel of the Conductor needs removing? It looks like the install takes places from the underside. 

 

I guess the new module needs no driver for Mac? This is a plus. 

 

Also, note this is not a picture of the actual module. The Burson one is just USB. 

my mistake not much available right now.but heres the Conductors new usb upgrade .

post #1130 of 1893

This review http://stereotimes.com/post/the-audiophilleo-usb-s-pdif-converter-with-pure-powerupgrade from Stereo Times is about the audiophilleo and conductor.

post #1131 of 1893
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Originally Posted by RubyTiger View Post
 

This review http://stereotimes.com/post/the-audiophilleo-usb-s-pdif-converter-with-pure-powerupgrade from Stereo Times is about the audiophilleo and conductor.


Great review, I'd guess that the difference, if it's there, is so small that you can easily swing one way or another.

 

http://soundnews.ro/2012/11/19/burson-conductor-simplicity-squared/

 

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 Originally Posted by DarKu
 
To test the quality of USB input I borrowed a M2Tech HiFace EVO + EVO battery supply.

Whie testing the USB input against M2tech EVO connected to the coaxial input, I was convinced once again that the USB input of the Conductor has been designed with great care.

 

I tried to distinguish a difference, but I have found none by now, both sounding just as good.

The sound is focused and extended in both directions. The deep bass, non aggressive treble, extreme resolution and all micro-details were heard both on USB and on HiFace EVO+coax.

 

After I reported my findings to the Australian manufacturer, they were kind enough to explain to me that this time the USB input uses a Tenor TE8802 receiver that is working asynchronously and that the whole USB module is powered by a separate discrete power supply,  being more stable than some of the  renowned receivers.

They also added: “When measured using a frequency counter, we have detected far less digital phase noise from the Tenor compared to the HiFace.   Therefore, we believe that the best approach is to use our own USB receiver instead of adding another SPDIF convertor in the middle.”

 

Mind you EVO was getting better rating than AP+PP here

15 USB/SPDIF converters shootout - Computer Audiophile

 

But as always, trust your ears, not reviews or manufacturer's recommendations.

 

Happy listening. :L3000: 

post #1132 of 1893
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Originally Posted by Andrew_WOT View Post
 


Great review, I'd guess that the difference, if it's there, is so small that you can easily swing one way or another.

 

http://soundnews.ro/2012/11/19/burson-conductor-simplicity-squared/

 

 

Mind you EVO was getting better rating than AP+PP here

15 USB/SPDIF converters shootout - Computer Audiophile

 

But as always, trust your ears, not reviews or manufacturer's recommendations.

 

Happy listening. :L3000: 


I don't think the reviewer used a coax cable, and just plugged it into the DAC. There are users that reported worthy improvements while using a coax cable. 

 

I am also using a good usb interface(Audiobyte Hydra-X) with conductor which improved the quality and by a lot. ( Also two friends of mine bought it and have the same opinion ).

 

All users that I know of (except you I guess) that used a good usb interface with conductor reported improvements.


Edited by dan.gheorghe - 10/15/13 at 11:26am
post #1133 of 1893
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Originally Posted by Andrew_WOT View Post
 

Mind you EVO was getting better rating than AP+PP here

15 USB/SPDIF converters shootout - Computer Audiophile

 

But as always, trust your ears, not reviews or manufacturer's recommendations.

 

Happy listening. :L3000: 

 

A small but important distinction:

M2Tech HiFace Evo + Evo Supply - $990
M2Tech HiFace Evo + Evo Supply + Evo Clock - $1485 

 

M2Tech HiFace Evo + Evo Supply - 90
Audiophilleo 1/2 - 95
Empirical Audio Off Ramp Turbo 5 - 95

AP1 with the PurePower battery PSU - 95 (borderline 100)
M2Tech HiFace Evo + Evo Supply + Evo Clock - 100

 

The stock Burson USB would be much lower than the AP imo. I've not heard the EVO so can't comment on that directly.


Edited by negura - 10/15/13 at 11:24am
post #1134 of 1893

A quick question for those who ordered USB upgrade module, has anyone got it? or got update via e-mail with the shipping status?

post #1135 of 1893
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Originally Posted by WALL-E View Post
 

A quick question for those who ordered USB upgrade module, has anyone got it? or got update via e-mail with the shipping status?

 

I have heard nothing from them since I placed the order.

post #1136 of 1893
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Originally Posted by phototristan View Post
 

 

I have heard nothing from them since I placed the order.

I ordered it yesterday no response yet

post #1137 of 1893

Ok.thanks so we need to be patient:(

post #1138 of 1893
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Originally Posted by WALL-E View Post
 

A quick question for those who ordered USB upgrade module, has anyone got it? or got update via e-mail with the shipping status?

 

Apparently, they don't routinely respond, but I emailed them to ask and they said it had been mailed out and I should be receiving it in a few days.

post #1139 of 1893
Same, only received the initial order email.
post #1140 of 1893
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Originally Posted by BobJS View Post
 

 

Apparently, they don't routinely respond, but I emailed them to ask and they said it had been mailed out and I should be receiving it in a few days.

When did you order.Thanks

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