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post #1036 of 1815
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post
 

 

 

It was DOA :confused:  I still might get another depending on what DAC I end up with.

 

Well, that shouldn't get in the way .... let's hear your expectation bias !  :)

post #1037 of 1815
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Originally Posted by BobJS View Post
 

 

Well, that shouldn't get in the way .... let's hear your expectation bias !  :)

 

Expectation bias?  It will transform my PWD2 into a totally different DAC.  Sounding better than ever before.  

 

How's that?

post #1038 of 1815
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post
 

 

Expectation bias?  It will transform my PWD2 into a totally different DAC.  Sounding better than ever before.  

 

How's that?

 

I don't think the difference will be comparable to Burson Conductor with Hydra, as PWD2 is in another league and from what I heard pwd2's nativex is pretty nice.

post #1039 of 1815
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Expectation bias?  It will transform my PWD2 into a totally different DAC.  Sounding better than ever before.  

How's that?
Better, much better. You seem to be ready to be blown away! :P
post #1040 of 1815

After rereading Negura's Audiophilleo 2, IFI IUSB, Audiobyte Hydra-X impressions. it seems like Hydra-X adds some coloration on its own which perhaps makes it easier to hear when AP on the other hand is just bland neutral.

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Hydra:
This almost sounds like a classic tube lovers interface. For this reason it can have fantastic synergy with the Burson and certain headphones. I am thinking the HD800s here.
 
Pros:
- very impressive bass. Both strong quantity and good quality. If you're a bass head stop reading here
- more intimate soundstage than the Audiophilleo. Caters specific genres.
- smooth sounding
- adds warmness
- very liquid decays. It makes you feel the music flow.
 
Audiophilleo 2:
In some ways the opposite of Hydra as you shall read. I don't have the Pure Power add-on, but I have a Y split cable and a linearly regulated power supply. Even without those the AP2 is inches close to my impressions below.
 
Pros:
- I think the AP is a neutral interface. To my ears it doesn't add any coloration
- The soundstage presentation is like no other I've heard. I've compared it with the Hydra USB/SPDIF, Burson USB, PS Audio Perfect Wave DAC 2 USB and the Audiophilleo means business. Holographic, wide, tall, deep, the full 3D.
- instrument separation is top notch. Very clearly contoured.
- well layered presentation
- exceptionally detailed. If you're looking to dig out the last inch of details from the recording that's it. Be wary that this can end up being a too good of thing in certain setups.
- tight and well controlled bass
- exceptional attack. The PWD2 is also very good here. But I feel the AP2 edges it out.
- cleanest background
- has air, spark and superbly extended treble. Not bright, unless you go overboard with too much "silverware" around it. Careful matching is key as with everything.

 

I still do not discount the possibility that Burson made some recent changes to improve USB receiver or somehow it works better off US 110v versus 230v in Romania/Europe (crazy assumption, I know :eek:)

post #1041 of 1815
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Originally Posted by Andrew_WOT View Post

After rereading Negura's Audiophilleo 2, IFI IUSB, Audiobyte Hydra-X impressions. it seems like Hydra-X adds some coloration on its own which perhaps makes it easier to hear when AP on the other hand is just bland neutral.

I still do not discount the possibility that Burson made some recent changes to improve USB receiver or somehow it works better off US 110v versus 230v in Romania/Europe (crazy assumption, I know eek.gif )
I had the exact same thoughts about the Hydra. Maybe the the things it does are more noticeable.

I told you you had a better Conductor smily_headphones1.gif)
post #1042 of 1815

Look's like this thread has been quiet for awhile so let me re-energize it. I decided I would go for the Hydra-X as I like what has been said about it. The USA dealer is Audio Mirror and I sent an email asking about the particulars of the sale. So, he emails back and say's he is out of them but expects a shipment within a couple of weeks. And he wants a deposit because they go so fast. I email him back asking how much did he need to reserve one. And, how much time I had to try it in my system just in case I did not like it. Well, he asked for a two hundred dollars deposit to reserve one (but at a discounted price). But one week was all he would give me to return it. What are your thoughts and advice about this? Should I or should I not?

 

And on another note; has anyone here heard the 'Off Ramp 4 or 5' usb convertor?


Edited by RubyTiger - 9/27/13 at 3:58pm
post #1043 of 1815
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Originally Posted by RubyTiger View Post
 

Look's like this thread has been quiet for awhile so let me re-energize it. I decided I would go for the Hydra-X as I like what has been said about it. The USA dealer is Audio Mirror and I sent an email asking about the particulars of the sale. So, he emails back and say's he is out of them but expects a shipment within a couple of weeks. And he wants a down payment because they go so fast. I email him back asking how much did he need to hold one. And, how much time I had just in case I wanted to return it. Well, he asked for two hundred dollars to hold one for me and one week was all he would give for me to return it. What are your thoughts and advice about this? Should I or should I not?

 

I will talk with Nucu from Audiobyte  to confirm this. I don't think they are sold so fast...as to impose such conditions. What is the name of the distributor so I could ask audiobyte?


Edited by dan.gheorghe - 9/29/13 at 9:07am
post #1044 of 1815

Instead of giving his name here I will pm you Dan. Thank's for looking into this. Oh, and I do have a question about the Hydra. Does it come in silver also?

post #1045 of 1815
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Originally Posted by RubyTiger View Post
 

Look's like this thread has been quiet for awhile so let me re-energize it. I decided I would go for the Hydra-X as I like what has been said about it. The USA dealer is Audio Mirror and I sent an email asking about the particulars of the sale. So, he emails back and say's he is out of them but expects a shipment within a couple of weeks. And he wants a deposit because they go so fast. I email him back asking how much did he need to reserve one. And, how much time I had to try it in my system just in case I did not like it. Well, he asked for a two hundred dollars deposit to reserve one (but at a discounted price). But one week was all he would give me to return it. What are your thoughts and advice about this? Should I or should I not?

 

And on another note; has anyone here heard the 'Off Ramp 4 or 5' usb convertor?

 

What DAC are you using.  

 

The Off Ramps 5 is expensive compared to the Hydra-X.  The Off Ramp 4 can be found used at a good price on the "Gon" Both the Hydra-X and the Off Ramp will do I2S, Just the Hydra-X will do it at a much lesser cost.  I just purchased the AMR-DP777.  If the USB input is not all they say it is - I'm getting another Hydra-X.  First I'll try the iFi USB Power.

post #1046 of 1815
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post
 

 

What DAC are you using.

 

The Off Ramps 5 is expensive compared to the Hydra-X.  The Off Ramp 4 can be found used at a good price on the "Gon" Both the Hydra-X and the Off Ramp will do I2S, Just the Hydra-X will do it at a much lesser cost.  I just purchased the AMR-DP777.  If the USB input is not all they say it is - I'm getting another Hydra-X.  First I'll try the iFi USB Power.

 

I'm using the Conductor's dac and a audioquest diamond usb cable. Most may not agree but I find the diamond raises the degree of detail to another level with the conductor. I want to pair it with a convertor to see if there's a cumulative effect.


Edited by RubyTiger - 9/27/13 at 6:31pm
post #1047 of 1815
Yeap, the Hydra also comes in silver smily_headphones1.gif
post #1048 of 1815
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Originally Posted by citraian View Post

Yeap, the Hydra also comes in silver smily_headphones1.gif

 

citraian found an excellent cable with Hydra. Actually it is the first cable I have tested it with, but than I didn't test the cables as my ears were on Hydra. The W&M cable I have was impressive at first as the bass is monstruos with the cable but in time I came to realize it lost more important aspects : dynamics, transients, details, soundstage etc.

 

With the new cable Hydra stepped up a lot in all those areas.

post #1049 of 1815
I want that cable back you know that right? smily_headphones1.gif)
post #1050 of 1815
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I want that cable back you know that right? smily_headphones1.gif)

 

What cable? :))

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