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post #46 of 62

Well, I have a new proposal...

 

If he is on a budget (after buying that expensive Beats headphone), then I'd suggest that he buys the new Apple EarPods.

 

No, seriously... I think in the bass department, they cleanly beat any Beats headphones I have ever put on my head.

post #47 of 62
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Originally Posted by NinjaSushi2 View Post

I'm still new to the audiophile world but. I listened to his Beats and they sound flat. Flat lows, sharp highs, so so mids. He listens to Dubstep and I am trying to convince him to get an amp. Should he get an amp or a dac btw? I think he could get one or the other and some decent cans for 300.

Flat? I think not. I'm not sure which model it is, but most have a 20 decibel bass boost. Unless he is rich, and loves the design he is throwing his money away on something that sounds like a 60 dollar headphone.

 

I never did read all the pages so I might be repeating other people. If so, I apologize.

post #48 of 62
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Originally Posted by Marleybob217 View Post

Flat? I think not. I'm not sure which model it is, but most have a 20 decibel bass boost. Unless he is rich, and loves the design he is throwing his money away on something that sounds like a 60 dollar headphone.

I never did read all the pages so I might be repeating other people. If so, I apologize.



I said the same thing you said, didn't really understand the "flat" part
post #49 of 62

"Flat" in the casual audio market means something totally different than "flat" in the monitors/high-end headphones market.

 

When we say "flat" we're referring to the shape of a frequency response graph.

 

When most people say "flat", they mean the sound is dull with lots of midbass and no sparkle, the same way you would say a soda which has lost its fizz due to being left out is "flat". I've often seen ads for cheaper audio equipment contrasting their awesome spicy/exhilarating sound to inferior flat/muddy products.

 

Beats do sound "flat" in the sense that they have lots of mushy bass and weird fake treble yet no energy or life in them.


Edited by machoboy - 9/22/12 at 4:06pm
post #50 of 62
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Originally Posted by machoboy View Post

"Flat" in the casual audio market means something totally different than "flat" in the monitors/high-end headphones market.

 

When we say "flat" we're referring to the shape of a frequency response graph.

 

When most people say "flat", they mean the sound is dull with lots of midbass and no sparkle, the same way you would say a soda which has lost its fizz due to being left out is "flat". I've often seen ads for cheaper audio equipment contrasting their awesome spicy/exhilarating sound to inferior flat/muddy products.

 

Beats do sound "flat" in the sense that they have lots of mushy bass and weird fake treble yet no energy or life in them.

 

 

thanks for the explanation.

post #51 of 62

He may enjoy the V-Moda Crossfade LP2 as it is a bassy headphone that doesn't inflate the bass at the cost of ruining the rest of the sound. It should work well for your friend and it also looks better than most.

post #52 of 62
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He may enjoy the V-Moda Crossfade LP2 as it is a bassy headphone that doesn't inflate the bass at the cost of ruining the rest of the sound. It should work well for your friend and it also looks better than most.

 

i remember the sound of the vmodas being just plain mediocre. it's still the bad quality boomy bass that makes the mids recessed, the whole gimmick of v-moda is the look and durability of it, not sq.

post #53 of 62
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i remember the sound of the vmodas being just plain mediocre. it's still the bad quality boomy bass that makes the mids recessed, the whole gimmick of v-moda is the look and durability of it, not sq.

I have tried both the v-moda LP2 and M80, and there's a huge difference in the SQ between them. The LP2's bass is boomy and muddy, and basically overpowers any vocals or instruments. While the M80 is also bassy, the mids and the trebles still stand out and is overall has a more neutral signature than the LP2. I'd get the m80 over the LP2 for SQ any day.

post #54 of 62
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Originally Posted by thegunner100 View Post

I have tried both the v-moda LP2 and M80, and there's a huge difference in the SQ between them. The LP2's bass is boomy and muddy, and basically overpowers any vocals or instruments. While the M80 is also bassy, the mids and the trebles still stand out and is overall has a more neutral signature than the LP2. I'd get the m80 over the LP2 for SQ any day.


i don't know though, at 200$ you really have quite a few better options.

post #55 of 62
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by ytisawfulnow View Post

Amp for beats? good one

You misunderstand. Not beats, real headphones. 580/780, DT 770, AiAiAi, XB 500, etc. Ones with decent bass not flat, muddy, or punchy.
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Originally Posted by Marleybob217 View Post

Flat? I think not. I'm not sure which model it is, but most have a 20 decibel bass boost. Unless he is rich, and loves the design he is throwing his money away on something that sounds like a 60 dollar headphone.

I never did read all the pages so I might be repeating other people. If so, I apologize.

No worries mate.
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Originally Posted by reddragon View Post

I said the same thing you said, didn't really understand the "flat" part

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Originally Posted by machoboy View Post

"Flat" in the casual audio market means something totally different than "flat" in the monitors/high-end headphones market.

When we say "flat" we're referring to the shape of a frequency response graph.

When most people say "flat", they mean the sound is dull with lots of midbass and no sparkle, the same way you would say a soda which has lost its fizz due to being left out is "flat". I've often seen ads for cheaper audio equipment contrasting their awesome spicy/exhilarating sound to inferior flat/muddy products.

Beats do sound "flat" in the sense that they have lots of mushy bass and weird fake treble yet no energy or life in them.

He said it better than I could. Lol. Flat, boring, muddy, punchy, sharp, scratchy, open, wide, narrow, warm, fun, cold, calculating, dull, bright, etc. I have learned a lot of adjectives for describing headphones since I've been here.
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Originally Posted by thegunner100 View Post

I have tried both the v-moda LP2 and M80, and there's a huge difference in the SQ between them. The LP2's bass is boomy and muddy, and basically overpowers any vocals or instruments. While the M80 is also bassy, the mids and the trebles still stand out and is overall has a more neutral signature than the LP2. I'd get the m80 over the LP2 for SQ any day.

By boomy you mean punchy? Does the bass have a painful feel or just an overbearing feel?
post #56 of 62
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Originally Posted by NinjaSushi2 View Post


You misunderstand. Not beats, real headphones. 580/780, DT 770, AiAiAi, XB 500, etc. Ones with decent bass not flat, muddy, or punchy.
No worries mate.
He said it better than I could. Lol. Flat, boring, muddy, punchy, sharp, scratchy, open, wide, narrow, warm, fun, cold, calculating, dull, bright, etc. I have learned a lot of adjectives for describing headphones since I've been here.
By boomy you mean punchy? Does the bass have a painful feel or just an overbearing feel?

he was being sarcactic lol
boomy is overpowerful midbass and highbass, rumbling is lots of subbass, punchy is a good balance between high mid and subbass i would guess

post #57 of 62

If you want bassy heapdhones, this thread may help you out:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/573826/the-basshead-club

post #58 of 62

isnt punchy a good thing??? like my etymotic research hf5's bass, tight and punchy... well some find the bass to be lacking but yeah... does it mean a good texture and a good tight punch if the bass is punchy?

post #59 of 62
Also having the xb500 though don't have any beats but have heard them in store, I doubt the xb500 is better on sq, just probably a lot better on the price/performance ratio. Xb500 is really grainy on the mids to my ears
post #60 of 62
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Originally Posted by reddragon View Post

Also having the xb500 though don't have any beats but have heard them in store, I doubt the xb500 is better on sq, just probably a lot better on the price/performance ratio. Xb500 is really grainy on the mids to my ears

Never heard them myself.
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