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post #1 of 9
9/16/12 at 2:56am
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I'm thinking about buying Beyerdynamic Headzone HOME HT + Headphones Beyerdynamic DT880 HT but I'm not sure, cause maybe I can build better surround system with better SQ ?

 

Maybe it's better buy base only and plug Denon AH-D7000 ? but Headzone has 100 ohm output impedance what makes low impedance headphones boomy bass sounding. 

 

So what give me best surround sound with higher quality ? Dolby Headphone and Denon AH-D7000 or Beyerdynamic Headzone with stock DT 880 ? or maybe buy DT 990 Premium 600 ohm and plug to Headzone ?

 

Or maybe stereo is better than surround ? I read Mad Lust Envy's article I know he's playing only with Dolby Headphone, but some people tell me that ,,if You have professional, reference hq headphones you no need dolby headphone and other marketing things".They told me that Dolby and other addons makes sound non-natural and that best positioning is in stereo mode and more things I can hear in stereo, no surround, is that true ? what do You think ?


Edited by Bachnaify - 9/16/12 at 3:02am
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post #2 of 9
9/16/12 at 1:13pm

You can get something with even higher sound quality than that. The question is, can you afford the Smyth Realiser?

 

At roughly $3,000, it's not a cheap piece of kit, though if you want to drop the price a bit, you can ask not to include the Stax SR-207 + SRM-252S systems most of them come with (and for good reason; I've found that Stax Lambda models like that excel at headphone surround). That could save you a bit of money to go toward the SR-009 + Blue Hawaii SE, I suppose. (That's another $10,000 or so. Sorry about your wallet.)

 

Ultimately, you'll have to tell us your budget and what you're doing with a surround system in the first place. Gaming? Movies?

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post #3 of 9
9/16/12 at 1:36pm
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You can get something with even higher sound quality than that. The question is, can you afford the Smyth Realiser?

 

Ultimately, you'll have to tell us your budget and what you're doing with a surround system in the first place. Gaming? Movies?

 

It will be ONLY gaming and music but games 70 % and music 30 %. But I don't really know (I'm not sure) if surround is better than stereo even in games.  

 

My soundcard is ASUS Xonar Essence STX and my only amp is the part of this card (I don't have external amp yet)

 

2340$ is my max budget but I'm thinking about AKG Q701/K701/K702 + Amp Music Hall dac 25.3 too. I'm not Audiophile. I need the balance in sound between bass power/quality (explosions in games) and analytical, detailed sound (footsteps, and funny things easy to nitpick)   

 

I read Mad Lust Envy gaming guide and article about holy grail of gaming sound on this forum.

 

I thought about sealed cans like Ultrasone Pro 900 or DT 770 Pro but I heared that it makes ears sweat and warm even if pads are made of velour. (unfortunately I never ever had sealed cans) I'm crazy about Denon AH-D7000 too, cause it scores very high in Mad Lust Envy test - http://www.head-fi.org/t/534479/mad-lust-envys-headphone-gaming-guide-updated-9-4-2012-headzone-added-revised-layout-links), but it has pleather pads. The problem is that I'm wearing (I have, sorry for my bad english) headphones for a long time. I can wear them all day, so I don't know how many time I can stand with sealed cans.

 

Isolation is important for me, but comfort is more important, so it can be open cans. 


Edited by Bachnaify - 9/16/12 at 1:41pm
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post #4 of 9
9/16/12 at 1:52pm

$2340!? That's a lot of money there. Not quite enough for a Realiser, but if you're PC gaming with the Essence STX, then you don't really need that unless you want the best in virtual 7.1.

 

For that much, you could easily get yourself a pretty nice Stax setup. Not quite SR-009 + BHSE, but the SR-007 + SRM-323S should be quite doable if you can get the former for around $1,600 used. On the other hand, if comfort is a concern, I'd lean more toward the vintage SR-Lambda sets and an SRM-1/Mk2 Pro or SRM-T1 just because of the older models' lower clamping force. (It's also much more affordable that way.)

 

On the other hand, you just said you weren't an audiophile, so maybe you don't have to spend nearly that much to be satisfied. What's stopping you from just getting the Q701 and calling it a day?

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post #5 of 9
9/17/12 at 12:14am
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$2340!? That's a lot of money there. Not quite enough for a Realiser, but if you're PC gaming with the Essence STX, then you don't really need that unless you want the best in virtual 7.1.

 

On the other hand, you just said you weren't an audiophile, so maybe you don't have to spend nearly that much to be satisfied. What's stopping you from just getting the Q701 and calling it a day?

 

Maybe You are right. I wanna buy Q701/K701 to test them but I still asking some people about headband cause some people thinks that is uncomfortable. I'm looking for place/shop/audio shop when I could try K701 and I think I find someone but I need call if they have K701.

 

and what about amp ? I'm pretty not sure whether Essence STX amp is enough. I read the review, where man try AKG K701 with Music Hall 25.2 (unfortunately I found in shop only 25.3) and Essence One. I can get Lovely cube with second hand too. 

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post #6 of 9
9/17/12 at 1:07am

Dynamic/ortho amps aren't my best field of knowledge, sorry. (I tend to focus more on electrostatic amps since those headphones won't even work without 'em.)

 

I'd suggest trying it directly from the Essence STX and then considering a dedicated amp afterward if the built-in one isn't good enough for you.

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post #7 of 9
9/17/12 at 1:11am
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Dynamic/ortho amps aren't my best field of knowledge, sorry. (I tend to focus more on electrostatic amps since those headphones won't even work without 'em.)

 

I'd suggest trying it directly from the Essence STX and then considering a dedicated amp afterward if the built-in one isn't good enough for you.

ok thanks Man :) I tell You when I get some cans. Probably it will be K701.

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post #8 of 9
9/26/12 at 8:10am

I would try out the K701/Q701 before you buy, or be prepared to take a knife to the headband.  Some people get on with the stock headband fine, I did not.

 

I bought the Q701 and the headband as standard was unbearable.  It really dug into my head and was causing quite a bit of pain.  On the first day, after about an hour of wearing them I could not take it anymore and gave up for the day.  I tried again the second day and it was just as bad, if not worse. 

 

That was when I took a Stanley knife to the headband and cut off all the bumps.  I also got some memory foam and have attached that to the headband, and now they are fine.  They may not look great anymore but at least I can use them.

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post #9 of 9
9/30/12 at 11:10pm

just ordered the k701 and will be using with the Essence STX mainly for FPS, music, and movies using Dolby Headphone.  Will let you guys know how the headband feels after some use.

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