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post #8761 of 8947
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REALLY REALLY hate how Windows handles scaling. Half the crap was blurry or looked super weird. So I turned off scaling. 

Yeah... it is always weird... I tried to mess with Windows 10's scaling it was almost cancer. Like some stuff scales up and some don't? Or something? I have no clue. Kind of just backed away from it and said nope. Not sure about Win 8.1 since I haven't had to deal with one that has a higher res/dpi screen.

 

I think nVidia Optimus or w/e is a little borked in Linux, not sure if it is distro based though, or manufacture. A Lenovo Y50 I was given the chance to mess with had some issues and I eventually got it to only use the 960M in it to play some games in Wine or w/e. Most of it was not setup by me though (done by someone smarter than me), so I have no clue about the specifications in the machine or how the OS was setup.

post #8762 of 8947

Anyone has any thoughts on the following: 

 

I want to get a 17" laptop with UHD resolution with gtx980m. 

 

Now, the problem is that GTX980M is not ready for 4K, no matter how you look at it. It will not be able to play games and probably not be able to play with good settings on madVR. Now, this screen has some very interesting specs, like 100% adobe coverage. I was curious if I would be better off getting this one and use the screen on 1080, as uhd is a perfect multiple, or I should avoid doing this. (It is more expensive by 570$ to get the one with uhd screen, with all other settings being the same.

 

The laptop in question is Acer Predator. I would take clevo into account, but.. there is only a dude selling them, and he cannot offer a good solution for payment over a period of time. Not to mention that Clevo route would be a further 500$ more expensive because it comes with gtx980 and i7 both desktop variants. 

post #8763 of 8947
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Multitouch was much better in GNOME 3.

 

It might have been just Windows. I don't remember stalling issues in GNOME 3 with the scrolling thing.

 

There's also this really annoying thing in that if you dual boot Windows and Linux, Linux will use whatever power state your last session of Windows left it on and it's something you could see in battery life. I would get a report of 15 hours if I last used it in the Power Saver profile and like 3-6 hours if I left it in High Performance. I wasn't exactly sure what was going on.

 

At least that is a beneficial thing for you. Dualbooting Windows on Mac is horrible with how time is stored and handle on Macs lol

 

 

Anyway, diging the laptop. 

 

REALLY REALLY hate how Windows handles scaling. Half the crap was blurry or looked super weird. So I turned off scaling. 

Windows scaling itself has nothing inherently wrong with it. It's just the fact that Microsoft has very little control over the software you install on it.

 

So the main example of this would be program icons in desktop, tray, or taskbar in which programs that don't come with a upscaled or vector version of the icon will appear blurry when upscaled. Program windows/layouts are also plagued by this issue. IIRC Macs are a bit more differently since the majority of the applications Apple has control over via the App Store so they almost force it.

 

I don't see some Linux DE's and Macs having most of the issues Windows does at the very least. Scaling on GNOME 3 and OS X seem perfectly fine for me, minus browser scaling which gets a bit weird.

 

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Originally Posted by bowei006 View Post

 

REALLY REALLY hate how Windows handles scaling. Half the crap was blurry or looked super weird. So I turned off scaling. 

Yeah... it is always weird... I tried to mess with Windows 10's scaling it was almost cancer. Like some stuff scales up and some don't? Or something? I have no clue. Kind of just backed away from it and said nope. Not sure about Win 8.1 since I haven't had to deal with one that has a higher res/dpi screen.

 

I think nVidia Optimus or w/e is a little borked in Linux, not sure if it is distro based though, or manufacture. A Lenovo Y50 I was given the chance to mess with had some issues and I eventually got it to only use the 960M in it to play some games in Wine or w/e. Most of it was not setup by me though (done by someone smarter than me), so I have no clue about the specifications in the machine or how the OS was setup.

I thought Optimus was still borked? I just remember Optimus always being broken on linux.

post #8764 of 8947
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Originally Posted by HybridCore View Post

 

I thought Optimus was still borked? I just remember Optimus always being broken on linux.

Must still be borked then. Haha.

post #8765 of 8947
Interesting, not used ATTO before, seems my nVME gets close to where it should be...

post #8766 of 8947

Anyone around here has any idea if big companies who make laptops have automated machines for applying thermal paste between cpu and cooler, or someone does this? 

 

I have been seriously considering getting a clevo P775, GTX980 + 4K display + desktop i7, but the only person who sells them in Romania is a dude who puts them together himself, and I have no idea if I should trust Acer more, or get this one. Also, I am quite sure that neither gtx980M or 980 are not ready for 4K gaming nor 4k madVR. but the panel is amazing enough to buy it and run it at fullhd for it's entire life. 

 

Now the question was, if I could trust a clevo laptop more, or should take into account that acer probably spends more time optimizing important things such as cooling, (predator seems to have the best cooling ever created up to now for a laptop)

post #8767 of 8947
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Originally Posted by Dobrescu George View Post
 

Anyone around here has any idea if big companies who make laptops have automated machines for applying thermal paste between cpu and cooler, or someone does this? 

 

I have been seriously considering getting a clevo P775, GTX980 + 4K display + desktop i7, but the only person who sells them in Romania is a dude who puts them together himself, and I have no idea if I should trust Acer more, or get this one. Also, I am quite sure that neither gtx980M or 980 are not ready for 4K gaming nor 4k madVR. but the panel is amazing enough to buy it and run it at fullhd for it's entire life. 

 

Now the question was, if I could trust a clevo laptop more, or should take into account that acer probably spends more time optimizing important things such as cooling, (predator seems to have the best cooling ever created up to now for a laptop)

 

Assuredly, laptop production facilities will machine apply thermal paste.

 

Boutique builders like XoticPC and probably the guy you mention ... will typically offer options to personally apply other pastes ...

 

But yeah .. from the factory? it's all machine applied ...

post #8768 of 8947
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Assuredly, laptop production facilities will machine apply thermal paste.

 

Boutique builders like XoticPC and probably the guy you mention ... will typically offer options to personally apply other pastes ...

 

But yeah .. from the factory? it's all machine applied ...

And I suppose it is better to have the thermal paste machine applied, and all components put in by machines>?

post #8769 of 8947
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You'll pretty much know if he didn't apply it or didn't apply it correct the moment you get it and play a game with it.

post #8770 of 8947
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You'll pretty much know if he didn't apply it or didn't apply it correct the moment you get it and play a game with it.

Yeah, but long term lasting-wise, should it be better to get a clevo, which is a barebone, or get an Acer, which is um.. packed by some dudes who really know what they are doing?

post #8771 of 8947

Long term it's better to disassemble it and put your own non-schitty thermal paste in there.

post #8772 of 8947

No, long term it is better to do your research and don't toss money around pointlessly.

post #8773 of 8947

Asking people in forums is research!

 

 

right?

post #8774 of 8947
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Originally Posted by VXAce View Post
 

No, long term it is better to do your research and don't toss money around pointlessly.

 

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Originally Posted by Tangster View Post
 

Asking people in forums is research!

 

 

right?

 

 

Both Clevo p775 w AUO 4K screen and Acer Predator w the same screen just appeared on market, and I already read all reviews existent on internet for both. 

 

I was kinda asking for personal opinions and advice, maybe someone had once an experience similar to mine, or someone owns the same model and can give input. 

 

As far as I am concerned, I can get 4K + gtx980m + i7 6700hq for 2320$, and a clevo w desktop 980 and i7-6700K would cost up to 3650, about 50% more. I highly doubt that I would really want to dive so deep, but I love to make sure that I am doing the right thing. I *think I would want the clevo, but I am way too afraid that cooling and components contacts might come off bad on my side. Also, they have GPUs on chips, thing which leaves me up with asking how exactly do you fit that component on coolers, I mean, CPU cooling can be so and so, but GPU cooling needs to be top notch, and from youtube, it seems that the person who sells it must apply thermal paste directly on gpu, and I am not sure about that. 

 

In another order of thoughts, I think that after watching so many videos about acer predator, there is way too little data on it, like how does it feel in real life usage. 

post #8775 of 8947
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Asking people in forums is research!

 

 

right?

Or misguidance. There's always the quack merchant carrying his snake oil around.

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