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It's set on 1080p 16:9 , 100% scale, 8x AA Michell-Netravali , 8000kbps, AAC 256kbps, and 24fps.

Must be the AA?

Does baking before rendering help? I didn't bake it...


Usually baking helps, but I do not know if baking in blender is a one click magical fix.  Last version I actually used was 2.46, and I do not remember baking being available in the software..

There are some Adobe After Effects templates that are available online, can tweak and build upon them.  Would probably be a lot faster to render that way.

 

I guess it does not matter too much unless you have to make edits haha

post #6767 of 6773
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Originally Posted by DonutDeflector View Post
 

I'm rendering an animation.

It's an audio visualizer similar to the way Monstercat does theirs.

An un-overclokced FX-6300 takes 1.5 fraken seconds to render a frame.

Been trying to figure out how to do that in After Effects...

post #6768 of 6773
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Originally Posted by VXAce View Post

Been trying to figure out how to do that in After Effects...

They have tutorials on how to do that in after effects on YouTube and even some pre-made templates. I opted to do it on Blender because I don't have AE.

I do have the video of what it turned out like here: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ur15y4V9BBE

The song used was something I made on my Music YT channel when I was just messing around with a launchpad.
post #6769 of 6773

Omg, how did I just now find about this thread! Wooww haha. Anyways, I have a few hardware questions for you fine ladies and gentlemen. I am currently in the market for a new GPU (super excited) but:

 

1) Cost per perfomrance, the gtx 970 is a great choice and I do plan on getting an SLI set up which raises the question. Is 980 sli something I need to look into as well? I keep searching on google "GTX 970 sli vs 980 sli" and I keep getting comparisons of two 970s vs 1 980 and that does not help.

 

2) I do plan on going to 4k gaming at some point, whether that is this gen or next gen, I am unsure; however, I would love to be prepared this gen just in case. I know that the current offering is 4gb of VRAM per card, and since I am getting 2, I would essentially have 8gb. Should I perhaps wait for the 8gb versions RUMORED to come out sometime soon (waiting game... yay...). 

 

3) I have currently $1400USD to buy 2 cards, but any savings on this would go towards a better soundcard for my pc/ps4 (tired of using that mono headset thing that comes with the ps4), and the creative blaster x7 looks promising. Also I need to continue paying off my car and any FURTHER savings will most likely go for that too. 

 

My research thus far: a single gtx 970 cost/performance compared to gtx 980 indicates that the 980's performance puts the price around $400 which it is not at. Also the evga GTX 980 Classified is now on their website at a ridiculous mark up ($700) when I could just buy 2 gtx 970's for the same price and have MUCH better performance.

 

TL;DR?? gtx 970sli vs gtx 980sli. Cost? Performance? What is worth? Wait for 8gb variants?

 

Thanks for your help! (sorry for the long post)

post #6770 of 6773
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Originally Posted by Toxos View Post
 

Omg, how did I just now find about this thread! Wooww haha. Anyways, I have a few hardware questions for you fine ladies and gentlemen. I am currently in the market for a new GPU (super excited) but:

 

1) Cost per perfomrance, the gtx 970 is a great choice and I do plan on getting an SLI set up which raises the question. Is 980 sli something I need to look into as well? I keep searching on google "GTX 970 sli vs 980 sli" and I keep getting comparisons of two 970s vs 1 980 and that does not help.

 

2) I do plan on going to 4k gaming at some point, whether that is this gen or next gen, I am unsure; however, I would love to be prepared this gen just in case. I know that the current offering is 4gb of VRAM per card, and since I am getting 2, I would essentially have 8gb. Should I perhaps wait for the 8gb versions RUMORED to come out sometime soon (waiting game... yay...). 

 

3) I have currently $1400USD to buy 2 cards, but any savings on this would go towards a better soundcard for my pc/ps4 (tired of using that mono headset thing that comes with the ps4), and the creative blaster x7 looks promising. Also I need to continue paying off my car and any FURTHER savings will most likely go for that too. 

 

My research thus far: a single gtx 970 cost/performance compared to gtx 980 indicates that the 980's performance puts the price around $400 which it is not at. Also the evga GTX 980 Classified is now on their website at a ridiculous mark up ($700) when I could just buy 2 gtx 970's for the same price and have MUCH better performance.

 

TL;DR?? gtx 970sli vs gtx 980sli. Cost? Performance? What is worth? Wait for 8gb variants?

 

Thanks for your help! (sorry for the long post)

 

1) The 970 is a great card with many good features. But do remember that as of right now. The R9 290X and 290 are still faster and cheaper. the 290X can be found on sale for $299 often now and the 290 for $230. These two cards in stock formats are faster than the more expensive 970

 

But the 970 has its own good things about it that make it nice. The difference in them is really only around +- 5 to 7%

 

2) Nope. Nope you wont. In SLI and CrossfireX. Vram is mirrored. You only get access to both VRAMs when running them independently. Games can't use two independent GPUs. So in essence you will only get 8GB of vRAM if you decide to crypto mine or do any other GPU computations.......but that is ridiculous as very few consumer things you would do would use 8GB. So in essence, you only get as much as one card has. 

 

2.2) Benchmarks performed on 4GB vs 2GB cards such as the 680 and 770 came to a conclusion that the 4GB variants offer no improvements at 1080p and only MARGINAL if any improvements at $K and 5xxx resolutions. 

 

I would read this:

Quote: http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1801473/gtx-770-2gb-4gb-future-proofing-bf4.html

I hate to say it, but the concept of "future-proofing" in computers is simply nonexistent. I can almost completely guarantee you that you will start to see the games lagging and your graphics card struggling before you will really need the extra VRAM. 
Take, for example, the GTX 295. Released in early 2009, it was the top-of-the-line, dual-GPU card from NVIDIA. Now, only four years later, it is practically obsolete. I can go on ebay right now and buy one for 20% what it originally cost, due to the fact that, when it comes to maximum performance, no one wants it anymore.
And that was their top-of-the-line card. The 770, although it is a spectacular card, is not the very best. As I said, the GPU will become obsolete and start underperforming before you will see that the VRAM limit is being pushed. 
Since you won't be playing on Ultra, there's even more reason to not get 4GB.

 

 

The guy is right. If you aren't doing 4K now, and want to do it later.....then do it later. Two super high end cards at super high end premium only benefit those that have wallets deep enough for them. You have the money, but your post reads like you want top of the line for a long time and be done with it. The problem then is law of diminishing returns. By the time 4K is very popular (or any other post 1080p res) in games. I can bet you that your 970 in SLI will just barely chug along the newest $300 GPU that is out. 

 

 

So let me ask you. Are you Mr. True Deep Pockets or someone that just wants to game respectably and doesn't actually actually have that much money? It seems like you are the later. If so, I would say to just buy either one 970, or a 290X and make it last until you want to play in 4K.

 

Because as the above ideas say. Right now, GPUs with lots of VRAM aren't very efficent at being better at 4K by increasing their VRAM. There is more limitations that you can't see in place.

 

By the time you want to play in 4K. You can almost bet your sweet ass that the $300 GPU at that moment will be pretty damn silky at 4K.

post #6771 of 6773
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TL;DR?? gtx 970sli vs gtx 980sli. Cost? Performance? What is worth? Wait for 8gb variants?

 

I'm not against a 970 or 980 SLI build, but it does feel like overkill for a lot of games. I'm going to refer back to Planetside 2, since that's all the gaming I do seriously now. From what I know, PS2 runs fine on any rig with decent CPU and a decent GPU. However, when maxing out the game, ultra@1080p on a dual 780Ti SLI + 4770k rig, the GPUs aren't the bottleneck, the CPU is and a 4770k is nothing to sneeze at. This of course depends on the types of games you play, but a dual 970 or god forbid a dual 980 will be extremely powerful, and at that point it will not be a bottleneck, something else will be. Unless you get unlucky and a game hates everything. *cough* Metro *cough* Not sure what your current computer's specs are either.

 

I'd say that if you don't already own something to game at 4k already, I'd save as much money as possible and hold out. 980Ti is supposed to come out eventually too, that might worth waiting for.

post #6772 of 6773
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Originally Posted by bowei006 View Post
 

 

1) The 970 is a great card with many good features. But do remember that as of right now. The R9 290X and 290 are still faster and cheaper. the 290X can be found on sale for $299 often now and the 290 for $230. These two cards in stock formats are faster than the more expensive 970

 

But the 970 has its own good things about it that make it nice. The difference in them is really only around +- 5 to 7%

 

2) Nope. Nope you wont. In SLI and CrossfireX. Vram is mirrored. You only get access to both VRAMs when running them independently. Games can't use two independent GPUs. So in essence you will only get 8GB of vRAM if you decide to crypto mine or do any other GPU computations.......but that is ridiculous as very few consumer things you would do would use 8GB. So in essence, you only get as much as one card has. 

 

2.2) Benchmarks performed on 4GB vs 2GB cards such as the 680 and 770 came to a conclusion that the 4GB variants offer no improvements at 1080p and only MARGINAL if any improvements at $K and 5xxx resolutions. 

 

I would read this:

 

The guy is right. If you aren't doing 4K now, and want to do it later.....then do it later. Two super high end cards at super high end premium only benefit those that have wallets deep enough for them. You have the money, but your post reads like you want top of the line for a long time and be done with it. The problem then is law of diminishing returns. By the time 4K is very popular (or any other post 1080p res) in games. I can bet you that your 970 in SLI will just barely chug along the newest $300 GPU that is out. 

 

 

So let me ask you. Are you Mr. True Deep Pockets or someone that just wants to game respectably and doesn't actually actually have that much money? It seems like you are the later. If so, I would say to just buy either one 970, or a 290X and make it last until you want to play in 4K.

 

Because as the above ideas say. Right now, GPUs with lots of VRAM aren't very efficent at being better at 4K by increasing their VRAM. There is more limitations that you can't see in place.

 

By the time you want to play in 4K. You can almost bet your sweet ass that the $300 GPU at that moment will be pretty damn silky at 4K.

1) I would like to go amd; however, at home, I do not use AC at all or very rarely, so using cards that output quite a bit of heat will make it uncomfortable. Not to mention that I am currently running a custom loop in my pc (except for GPUs) so the rest of the cooling is more 'passive' than active.

 

2) You are right! My bad...

 

I wish I was Mr. True Deep Pockets, but currently I am not... just saved up a bit over time and just checked my budget and I had $1400 for that stuff. It is increasing about $400 a month but I am cutting that down as soon as I buy the cards cuz I want to pay off my car faster haha. Basically I am looking to spend at least 2-3 years with the cards before having to upgrade again (my rule of thumb is once 2 cards perform similarly as the 1 variant, then it is time to upgrade i.e. 560ti sli <= 760). Trend is generally every couple of generations, so the next upgrade would potentially be gtx 1170 (if that is what they decide to call it). This way, it keeps the upgrade time frame dynamic. I do wish to be able to play the latest games at maximum settings for the next couple of years at least. I do know that money is almost being wasted... but it is usually with electronics anyway... My worry is that the 4gb will not be enough a year from now. We just started this next-gen, and there is a lot of improvements and optimizations in games that will be coming and possible more textures that we could not do before -that is my worry.

 

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I'm not against a 970 or 980 SLI build, but it does feel like overkill for a lot of games. I'm going to refer back to Planetside 2, since that's all the gaming I do seriously now. From what I know, PS2 runs fine on any rig with decent CPU and a decent GPU. However, when maxing out the game, ultra@1080p on a dual 780Ti SLI + 4770k rig, the GPUs aren't the bottleneck, the CPU is and a 4770k is nothing to sneeze at. This of course depends on the types of games you play, but a dual 970 or god forbid a dual 980 will be extremely powerful, and at that point it will not be a bottleneck, something else will be. Unless you get unlucky and a game hates everything. *cough* Metro *cough* Not sure what your current computer's specs are either.

 

I'd say that if you don't already own something to game at 4k already, I'd save as much money as possible and hold out. 980Ti is supposed to come out eventually too, that might worth waiting for.

 

980ti at what price? I would love a 980ti but if EVGA is selling their classified at $700, will their ti be $1k? I know prices will be driven down, but probably only once AMD gets their stuff in place. Otherwise, Nvidia has a monopoly of GPUs with no need to charge less for them.

 

Another thing to note is that when playing FPS (which I do a lot of on PC), the higher the FPS you can get in the game, the "better" you will be able to perform. Hit detection (as well as certain jumps! like in COD4) are improved with higher FPS. That is why I used to play on super low settings and wreck face but it did not work as well when my settings were increased. 

 

My PC specs are:

 

Intel Corei7 2600k

1866mhz 8gb ram

sabertooth z77

kingston 3k SSD

GTX 560Ti 448 classified

 

If I missed anything else, let me know! Thank you for the responses thus far!

post #6773 of 6773

Not sure if anyone here cares particularly for this BUT AMD has announced 8gb variants for their line up (R9 290 I believe). Nvidia is already slowly trickling details about their variants too to fight AMD's increased VRAM. I live for competition like this!

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