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Originally Posted by linglingjr View Post
 

Ewwww, if future proof means being good for 2 years then this is almost as the release schedule for phones.

 

Being a subjective term ... 2 years is about as long as I personally want to keep a rig around ... money allowing of course. Some times I'll stretch it to 3 years before I upgrade (ACK!!!!) ...

 

Otherwise, I don't get phone calls so I'm still using a Samsung Note ver. 1 ... which works fine as a router, still ... (main use of my phone) ... 

 

;-)

post #6617 of 6628
I've finally ditched my last apple item (mid 2011 iMac) and gone fully back to PC...

Okay, so - it is purely stock, but I have got an HP ENVY 700-311na and a Dell U2713HM monitor, and couldn't be happier - if nothing else, when the stock gear gets a bit long in the tooth, I can finally upgrade individual components again, not need to upgrade the whole system...

Surprised at how adept the stock R9 270 card is, runs at 2560x1440 perfectly fine - was sceptical, having read reviews re frame rates etc - but, all looks good to me smily_headphones1.gif
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To anyone interested .. I did some tests this weekend comparing my new 980 cards with my traditional 670's ... posted some comments to overclock.net ... YMMV:

 

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http://www.overclock.net/t/1514308/results-sli-gtx670-to-sli-gtx980-in-an-antiquated-2700k-rig-4-7ghz

 

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:-)

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I've finally ditched my last apple item (mid 2011 iMac) and gone fully back to PC...

Okay, so - it is purely stock, but I have got an HP ENVY 700-311na and a Dell U2713HM monitor, and couldn't be happier - if nothing else, when the stock gear gets a bit long in the tooth, I can finally upgrade individual components again, not need to upgrade the whole system...

Surprised at how adept the stock R9 270 card is, runs at 2560x1440 perfectly fine - was sceptical, having read reviews re frame rates etc - but, all looks good to me smily_headphones1.gif

I still have my mid 2010 MBP 13" for school. Gave it new life half a year ago with a new Samsung EVO 840 128GB and an upgrade to 8GB of RAM. Quite nice although SATA 2 limits it. I forgot to check to make sure that the mobo supported SATA 3......so I bought an 840 Evo. If I had known, I would have saved a bit more money on say a PNY, or MX100

 

 

Nice, having a pre-built cheaply upgrading it is also quite a plan that some users can embark on. Any reason you didn't voyage into the realm of build a pc?

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Originally Posted by bowei006 View Post

Nice, having a pre-built cheaply upgrading it is also quite a plan that some users can embark on. Any reason you didn't voyage into the realm of build a pc?
To be fair to HP, when looking at HP's price of the system versus what the sum of the parts would be, it is quite good, no - actually pretty good VFM (talking UK price structures here)...

The first part that will be upgraded by me at some point will be the PSU - I think a 500w PSU is a little weedy (perfectly adequate for the 150w AMD 270, but - after that...) - and then the fun can commence, although I think the CPU / RAM are in it for the long haul smily_headphones1.gif
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To be fair to HP, when looking at HP's price of the system versus what the sum of the parts would be, it is quite good, no - actually pretty good VFM (talking UK price structures here)...

The first part that will be upgraded by me at some point will be the PSU - I think a 500w PSU is a little weedy (perfectly adequate for the 150w AMD 270, but - after that...) - and then the fun can commence, although I think the CPU / RAM are in it for the long haul smily_headphones1.gif

OEM's like HP have much better price vs build ratio in places like the UK/EU so I do get what you are saying. 

 

PC parts are quite a premium over there, whereas OEM PC's have quite the lobbying etc to get prices comparable to American ones. 

 

It isn't the 500W PSU...but that it is a schitty one. Technically, a really good 500W PSU can handle a top of the line i7, 16GB of RAM, 280X and an SSD and HDD....but NEVER do that with a OEM PSU. You're looking at fireworks going off possibly

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I have been out of the PC scene for a while, I did use to build my own PCs all the time (although not adventurous / exotic enough for OCs that involved watercooling etc) - and am a bit miffed, has to be said, gone from Apple with their restricted EFI to HP with their [nearly] equally restrictive UEFI...

Doesn't anyone have a good old fashioned BIOS on their mobo anymore?
post #6623 of 6628
Originally Posted by Duncan View Post

Doesn't anyone have a good old fashioned BIOS on their mobo anymore?

 

What's the problem?

 

Loving the faster POST times. :p 

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Originally Posted by Duncan View Post

I have been out of the PC scene for a while, I did use to build my own PCs all the time (although not adventurous / exotic enough for OCs that involved watercooling etc) - and am a bit miffed, has to be said, gone from Apple with their restricted EFI to HP with their [nearly] equally restrictive UEFI...

Doesn't anyone have a good old fashioned BIOS on their mobo anymore?

 

Nope. My old mobo had BIOS, but my new one has UEFI. Both are the same AM3/+ platform too. Despite how many people are hating on AM3/+ and AMD killing it....you gotta admit. This platform has been alive for half a decade before it was unformally ended. Intel whereas has a turnover rate of killing off a platform after 2 years

 

I'm about to upgrade my 'core' CPU and motherboard. 

 

I built my PC in late 2009-early 2010 (mid December of 2009) with a then, top of the line AMD Phenom II X4 965BE. I'm not a massive performance geek although I do like my numbers when my wallet can afford it. I've kept this CPU for a long time but I have upgraded my other components. They include a new SSD, upping the RAM to 8GB, and a new case. 

 

I recently last year changed the motherboard on the computer. My old motherboard was dieing and was at the end of its wits. And knowing that AM3/+ was comming to an end soon, I quickly jumped and bought a motherboard on sale. It was a nice $100 motherboard on sale for about $60. It was a real sale amount too. The price went back to $100 after I bought it during the Black Friday sale. It gave my computer another year! Awesome stuff right?

 

All things are comming to an end though. I'll be formally upgrading the core component next year. My summer PC I built for me featured an i5 4430, (I left that at home) so it's not like I can't afford it. I I just haven't come to a point until this year .

 

The slight performance hangs are very minor and barely noticeable at times, but when they do show up, the age of the CPU is apparent. The platform is nearing the end of its lifespam that AMD just killed.

 

 

I'll be setting aside $350 soon for a CPU, motherboard, cooling apparatus. 


Edited by bowei006 - 9/20/14 at 10:01pm
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Do you regret not getting a 2500K instead if you waited half a year more? I think a 2500K should last til now just as well.
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Do you regret not getting a 2500K instead if you waited half a year more? I think a 2500K should last til now just as well.

Why would I regret it?

 

The idea of regretting something to wait for over a year (the 2500 and its buddies came out a full calendar year after I made my purchase) is a ridiculous idea. 

 

It's a buyers fallacy that rests itself on an even more ridiculous logical fallacy. 

 

You can, at the moment, make a purchase to the best of your ability and to ones needs that one would want to make. Those that want to wait and play the game of following rumour news are fine to do their one. As that is the mindset that they are following and wish to pursue. Most people, the mass majority are sentitent beings that make purchases to suit their needs at the moment.

 

 

 

It's like asking me (who got an iPhone 4S during launch day) if I regret getting it during the day the iPhone 5 launched close to a calendar year later. 

post #6627 of 6628
I'm saying if you regret it now, no need to get worked up over it. The 2500k is the defining processor of the last decade.

I know I had a 955 and didn't feel great building a 2500k for a friend.
Edited by Blisse - Yesterday at 1:01 pm
post #6628 of 6628
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I'm saying if you regret it now, no need to get worked up over it. The 2500k is the defining processor of the last decade.

I know I had a 955 and didn't feel great building a 2500k for a friend.

Of course man. Wasn't worked up. Just explaining general buyers ideology. Text doesn't convey emotions. 

 

 

I built quite a few client rigs after my CPU and never felt bad about my own core components. 

 

The 2500K that came out a year later is definately quite a gem, but my 965 has lasted me half a decade. 

 

Not only that, but thanks to the AM3/+ platform, I was able to get new and cheap motherboards 5+ years after my CPU came out which would have been impossible with the 2500K, say 5+ years after LGA 1155. There is still some nice stock and ok prices now 3.5 years after 1155, but by 2015 going into 2016, there won't be any good prices for 1155 motherboards. 

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