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Originally Posted by vantt1 View Post

After using it for several weeks, I still don't understand. It's snappier, the chassis is more rigid, has a better trackpad and charger design, longer battery life and the screen isn't a low-res panel with a wobbly hinge, unlike the previous three Windows laptops I had. You can even open the Macbook's lid with one hand and the bottom half doesn't come up with it! I don't even miss the optical drive.

The real question is basically, are all of those worth $1000-1200 to you, because you can get an equivalently (and more clearly stated) spec'd Thinkpad for $800-1200, and Thinkpads actually go on sale. That's why people don't like Apple. They've sold people on aluminum unibody magic for 2x the price of an equivalent machine for these little "special" features. Great features and design decisions. Are they worth it to everyone? Not so much. Do people with Macbooks keep trying to shove it in their face? Yeah it happens a lot.

sidenote: I really love that people bring up the Mac OS is free. They got you paying $2200 and you're sold on the "free os" part and how much money you're saving. Okay there...

I would love to have a macbook because of the retina and the trackpad. But are those worth $1200 to me versus my $800 Thinkpad? No. I've dropped my Thinkpad so many times and it's still alive.
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Originally Posted by Blisse View Post

The real question is basically, are all of those worth $1000-1200 to you, because you can get an equivalently (and more clearly stated) spec'd Thinkpad for $800-1200, and Thinkpads actually go on sale. 

 

A better screen, trackpad, battery life, and portability is priceless IMO. Those things don't matter for a lot of people, but don't look down on those who want to pay a premium price for a more premium user experience. It's great that consumers even have this option.

 

For me, it's the difference between bring somewhat satisfied using a laptop vs ripping my dick off. Because unlike a desktop, a laptop is more than it's specs.

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Don't know why you assumed I looked down on people. This is a capitalist society and that's why they exist. Stuff can eeek quality and not cost 2.2k.

I don't feel the premiumness of it, especially versus good laptops costing half the price of it. That's where the difference between mac haters come in. You have a hard-on for the premiumness of it whereas I literally don't see it except for unibody aluminum, and a glass trackpad making me pay 1k more. It's that simple. But we're a spending society and we like to feel good spending it and there are very real (small or not) benefits and that's why Apple is doing great.
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Originally Posted by Blisse View Post

Don't know why you assumed I looked down on people. This is a capitalist society and that's why they exist. Stuff can eeek quality and not cost 2.2k.

I don't feel the premiumness of it, especially versus good laptops costing half the price of it. That's where the difference between mac haters come in. You have a hard-on for the premiumness of it whereas I literally don't see it except for unibody aluminum, and a glass trackpad making me pay 1k more. It's that simple. But we're a spending society and we like to feel good spending it and there are very real (small or not) benefits and that's why Apple is doing great.

 

My sincere apologies then, I just wrongly assumed you were because on the sight of someone spending their hard earned money on a product, you had to go on and on how they wasted their money for not buying a thinkpad instead.

 

Tone translates really poorly across the internet, again, my bad. :beerchug: 

 

If I could get all the goody goodness of a Macbook in a cheaper laptop, hell yeah I'd jump on it, but alas, that's not the world we live in.

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Yeah I'm really not against Apple except for the price. No one else competes with them except Razer so they can charge whatever they want and we still see enough benefits to buy it. Not perfect but that's how it works. It's really like Head-fi even.

Haha no worries, I need to work on how I phrase stuff too on the Internet, I think it's always a bit aggressive. smily_headphones1.gif
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Originally Posted by Blisse View Post
 
The real question is basically, are all of those worth $1000-1200 to you, because you can get an equivalently (and more clearly stated) spec'd Thinkpad for $800-1200, and Thinkpads actually go on sale. That's why people don't like Apple. They've sold people on aluminum unibody magic for 2x the price of an equivalent machine for these little "special" features. Great features and design decisions. Are they worth it to everyone? Not so much. Do people with Macbooks keep trying to shove it in their face? Yeah it happens a lot.
 
sidenote: I really love that people bring up the Mac OS is free. They got you paying $2200 and you're sold on the "free os" part and how much money you're saving. Okay there...
 
I would love to have a macbook because of the retina and the trackpad. But are those worth $1200 to me versus my $800 Thinkpad? No. I've dropped my Thinkpad so many times and it's still alive.

To me, yes. Sometimes, it isn't about the specifications, but more about the user experience. What if a PC had a 3.2 GHz quad core with 8 GB RAM and a 128 GB SSD? Chances are, the experience wouldn't feel as streamlined as a Mac with half of those specifications. The majority of people wouldn't even notice the difference this hardware makes because Windows is so clunky. If you give people numbers to compare, that's what they'll do - compare the numbers. "Oh, this brand has a 2.8 GHz Core i7 and 8 GB RAM, so it must be better than that other brand which only has a 2.4 GHz Core i5 and 4 GB RAM." That's not necessarily the case, and most likely the overall user experience will be completely different while the user won't be able to feel the difference during normal use.

 

Same goes with smartphones; everyone's clearly advertising that their phones have such and such Snapdragon CPU that runs at x.x GHz and x GB RAM and an xK display, but Apple's like "this CPU is x amount of times faster than the previous generation, and has all these other added features too."

 

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Originally Posted by deadlylover View Post

 

A better screen, trackpad, battery life, and portability is priceless IMO. Those things don't matter for a lot of people, but don't look down on those who want to pay a premium price for a more premium user experience. It's great that consumers even have this option.

 

For me, it's the difference between bring somewhat satisfied using a laptop vs ripping my dick off. Because unlike a desktop, a laptop is more than it's specs.

As someone mentioned about R&D costs earlier in this thread, a relatively large portion of the high cost of Apple machines are most likely spent on R&D compared to that of PC manufacturers, whose machines are sometimes half-assed. 

 

Personally, given the current market, I don't think any other laptop would bring satisfaction like the Macbook has. 

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