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post #5191 of 6628

I'm going to be honest here, but you're not going to be overclocking very far on the Gigabyte 8-series mATX and mITX boards. They're awesome, solid boards but they don't carry the awesome 8+2 power phase seen on the GA-Z87X-D3H and above models.

 

I'd just either spend a bit more to get a Xeon E3-1230V3 (it's an i7 with no iGPU) or go with a less expensive locked i5 (i5-4430 or 4440, whichever is less expensive at the time).

 

Any RAM is good. I wouldn't think any brand would work worse with a hackintosh than another.


Edited by HybridCore - 3/24/14 at 6:09pm
post #5192 of 6628
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Originally Posted by HybridCore View Post
 

I'm going to be honest here, but you're not going to be overclocking very far on the Gigabyte 8-series mATX and mITX boards. They're awesome, solid boards but they don't carry the awesome 8+2 power phase seen on the GA-Z87X-D3H and above models.

 

I'd just either spend a bit more to get a Xeon E3-1230V3 (it's an i7 with no iGPU) or go with a less expensive locked i5 (i5-4430 or 4440, whichever is less expensive at the time).

 

I don't know. I can change the system clock on pretty much any motherboard I have come across.

 

If the clock is slower than I want it to be. I just over clock it from say 5:00pm to 5:05pm.

 

Simple stuff realy. 

post #5193 of 6628
Your joke aside,
 
It's not that he can't overclock. I'm just worried about the integrity of the VRMs. Pretty sure the mATX and mITX Gigabyte 8-series motherboards are, at their best, 4+1 setups. The VRMs are rock solid but again, I'm worried about how much they can take. Also, I'm sticking with Gigabyte since Gigabyte boards are known to be the easiest to work with for Hackintosh (even near the point of plug-and-play versus other companies that need some tweaking which can be problematic).
post #5194 of 6628
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Originally Posted by AxelCloris View Post

I actually had that on the list, but I wasn't sure it would fit inside the case I have picked.


Thanks for the case information. I'll look into that model, since better cooling = quieter fan noise. Any other breathable M-ATX cases that come to mind? As for the RAM, I could grab four sticks of 4GB, and it does seem that the HyperX should work for a Hackintosh, so I'll look into that as well.
[Edit] The mobo has 2 memory slots.
Oh, wait, you have an error. You have a M-ITX board, but the Phenom you chose was a M-ATX. If you're looking at ITX cases, look at the Silverstone Raven RVZ01 for a SteamBox looking build, or a Corsair 250D, which is a mini-ITX 350D pretty much. You don't need 620W, 500 is more than enough. Get a i5-4430 and pair it with a Corsiar H60 with a Noctua NF-F12 with some nice thermal paste (guys need recommendations here).
post #5195 of 6628
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Oh, wait, you have an error. You have a M-ITX board, but the Phenom you chose was a M-ATX. If you're looking at ITX cases, look at the Silverstone Raven RVZ01 for a SteamBox looking build, or a Corsair 250D, which is a mini-ITX 350D pretty much. You don't need 620W, 500 is more than enough. Get a i5-4430 and pair it with a Corsiar H60 with a Noctua NF-F12 with some nice thermal paste (guys need recommendations here).

H60 is...meh. I would go mATX. A bit more flexible than mITX.


Edited by HybridCore - 3/24/14 at 6:28pm
post #5196 of 6628
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Then either he would have to stick with stock cooling (terrible idea) or dish out more money for an AIO water cooler.
But the money saved from lowering the PSU and CPU would even it out. Maybe instead of the H75, he could get the H60, which is only $60, plus the fan, so $75-$80.
post #5197 of 6628
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Several things. First, http://www.tonymacx86.com/416-building-customac-buyer-s-guide-march-2014.html. Great reference site for Hackintosh.

 

Second, if you did add a Hyper 212, or any tower heatsink for a matter of fact, it would not fit with a GPU unless you make it so the long side of the heatsink is parallel to the GPU (so fans are parallel to the back of the GPU). Terrible idea. I'd switch out the motherboard for a mATX board because the case you chose is a mATX case. Really no benefit of going mITX, as mITX boards usually cost a premium. Bitfenix also states that you can fit coolers up to 160mm high, and I believe the Hyper 212 coolers are 158mm high or less (can't remember, but they're definitely below 160mm).

 

Third, http://www.overclock.net/t/183810/faq-recommended-power-supplies. Check that list for good power supplies. 620W is probably overkill for a single GTX770. Go onto Anandtech or something and look at the benchmarks for the GTX770, SPECIFICALLY POWER GRAPHS. That will show you the worst case scenario for GPU wattage. Add the worst case scenario GPU wattage and the CPU wattage (the one stated by Intel in this case, such as 84W) to find around how much wattage you need. I'd think 500W is more than enough.

 

HDD is good, specifically since it's the WD10EZEX as it uses 1TB/platter, so better performance.

 

GPU I'm concerned about since it uses a non-blower type cooler so it spews hot air in ALL directions which is terrible for air cooling. Standard blower coolers are better airflow wise.

 

I'll try to throw together a good mATX build. Do you need to overclock?

 

As for case recommendations for mATX cases, the Silverstone FT03 is pretty nice as far as appearance goes, and is decent in air cooling. The CoolerMaster N200 is awesome (Silencio 352 is an insulated version if you're in another country not in North America). Fractal Design's Arc Mini R2, Define Mini, or the Node 804 are good cases. I don't recommend the Corsair 350D if you're putting something in the 5.25" bay slots unless you're willing to mod or willing to overlook the enormous design flaw. Silverstone's PS07 and TJ08-E are also great cases for airflow.

 

Most of the parts in my list were taken from tonymacx86 as being compatible with OSX, which is my first priority. Gaming is my second priority and it's why I'm going to dual boot Windows. The computer doesn't have to be small by any means, I just found parts that were recommended for a hackintosh and could stay in a $1200 budget for the computer. Don't need to spend money on an OS since I have both Win7/8 and OSX. Third priority is cooling to keep the computer quieter, so the information about how the GPU is cooling is greatly appreciated. Overclocking isn't a requirement but I'm open to it. And I chose the PSU because it comes well recommended for quiet operation. 500W should be enough power overall for these components.

 

If you think going larger will do better for the budget, I'm all behind it. Heck, even something massive like @lord_tris's case (blanking on the model right now) is perfectly fine. It'll be going on a desk in an office that isn't limited by desk space.

post #5198 of 6628
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It depends on how much he wants to OC. I haven't been reading the others. Boards like that I find can take 'playing around' OC's but stable high ones like you say may have a b it of issue.

 

But hey, if you have all the money in the world. What's it to you but a few friend mobo's that you then RMA

post #5199 of 6628
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Most of the parts in my list were taken from tonymacx86 as being compatible with OSX, which is my first priority. Gaming is my second priority and it's why I'm going to dual boot Windows. The computer doesn't have to be small by any means, I just found parts that were recommended for a hackintosh and could stay in a $1200 budget for the computer. Don't need to spend money on an OS since I have both Win7/8 and OSX. Third priority is cooling to keep the computer quieter, so the information about how the GPU is cooling is greatly appreciated. Overclocking isn't a requirement but I'm open to it. And I chose the PSU because it comes well recommended for quiet operation. 500W should be enough power overall for these components.

 

If you think going larger will do better for the budget, I'm all behind it. Heck, even something massive like @lord_tris's case (blanking on the model right now) is perfectly fine. It'll be going on a desk in an office that isn't limited by desk space.

Most PSUs will run silent if they're 80+ Bronze and are from a good company or OEM. Seasonic's PSUs are often dead silent until under really heavy load.

 

If you're not going to OC/can't see yourself doing it, I wouldn't waste money on getting an unlocked chip.

post #5200 of 6628
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Interesting Titan Z stuff. 

 

Guess they duct taped two Titan Black's together which kinda lets it use the Vram on both cards since they are intergrating it onto one board and making improvements.

post #5201 of 6628
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Interesting Titan Z stuff. 

 

Guess they duct taped two Titan Black's together which kinda lets it use the Vram on both cards since they are integrating it onto one board and making improvements.

 

Yeah, I was reading about that this morning. Insane price tag at $3k. I'd save the extra $1k and get two Titans.

post #5202 of 6628
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Yeah, I was reading about that this morning. Insane price tag at $3k. I'd save the extra $1k and get two Titans.

Since the Titan Z uses dual GPU's, I'm pretty sure you can't just chuck four SLI Titan Z's in there.

 

I believe Two may be the max.

 

It's an insane price tag but I think it's good for the industry in a sense. Those that will pay for them will, and will represent a niche market and upper echelon of those that will use them and their performance.

 

The 12GB of Vram that you can get access to WHILE gaming is the important part. Especially with running multi 4K UHD tv's. 

post #5203 of 6628
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Since the Titan Z uses dual GPU's, I'm pretty sure you can't just chuck four SLI Titan Z's in there.

 

I believe Two may be the max.

 

It's an insane price tag but I think it's good for the industry in a sense. Those that will pay for them will, and will represent a niche market and upper echelon of those that will use them and their performance.

 

The 12GB of Vram that you can get access to WHILE gaming is the important part. Especially with running multi 4K UHD tv's. 


2kW?  $3000?  Pass ;)

post #5204 of 6628

My mom just asked if overclocking is illegal.

post #5205 of 6628
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My mom just asked if overclocking is illegal.

IT actually is 

 

Legally, the time you clock at the original one is the legally binding one that you have to put out. They can determine if you are overclocking illegally by checking the past history of your frequencies and how the speed going through the NorthBridge. Overclocking at the end is thus illegal and easilly tracked and is something I do not recommend.

 

Just punch your card in at the start of the day and at the end of the day at the time the clock says. Don't try to get more hours in on your job. But if you do ever decide to do it. Remember to change up the frequency that you punch the card in at so its harder to track what time you generally clock out at. And also try to vary the speed you drive down the Northern Bridge at. If you go with a variable speed over the bridge every day, they can't determine when it is you get to the work place. Keep say though

 

And remember, Overclocking in most countries is illegal.

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