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Originally Posted by bowei006 View Post
 

It's a thread, lighten up.

 

Not sure if you've gotten to that point yet, but conversation and making friends is all about small talk, making fun of stuff etc.

 

Imperial X wrote an essay on this phenomena where he hates anime with any plot. In where he says that plot and all that is something he experiences every day and that he wants anime to be something mindless that he can relax and enjoy.

 

These online threads are just that. At the end of the day, I'm almost 700miles away from the nearest family, have two upcomming tests just as I finished taking another one, and have $xx,xxxx amount in debt and need to fill out paperwork here, network there, manage this, get the student government to approve that. 

 

I come home from all that. I see a box with an SSD I just bought and its hilariously sucky. So sucky that it's amusing and that I just need to take pictures and put it online. That's it. 

 

It's a way of escaping and making small talk with people. I love making Apple/Microsoft/Sony etc hate jokes that are mindless with non-techy friends. They don't get and don't care to know every explanation for why the rationale is wrong. And honestly, it doesn't matter. It's a way to talk, rage about something, find and connect with somebody. It's a way to take the pain away. 

 

Sometimes I sit in my empty room, contemplating what it is that I'm doing. My friends have their lives going on, and I have mine. Take away those friends of mine - and oh how fragile friendship is - and I'm all alone. I'm in a cold place, trying to make a name for myself. There is pain every second of my day, but you know what breaks that pain? Excitement, and interaction. Excitement as I see the UPS guy pull up with my package. And laughter as I find out that one of the best SSD's of its class has some of the schittiest everything else I have ever seen.

 

Social networking, and interaction. It's a drug that everyone likes and needs. 


I still understand you...

 

EDIT:  My second favorite thing to do with a new purchase is to take photos and rant about etc etc.  Most people I know simply do not understand or care.  United States is great for employment and opportunities, but I only have a handful of people I actually care about.

 

Its fun to read your 'rants' aka complaints haha


Edited by Yazen - 2/24/14 at 7:43pm
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Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Yazen View Post
 

Its ok...I understand you :biggrin:

:happy_face1: 

University students Unite

 

post #4803 of 6628
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Originally Posted by Yazen View Post
 

Yeah, sure do.  However, the 840/Pro SSDs are one of the worst (if not worst) in terms of degradation if TRIM functionality is not enabled/non-existent.  You probably should have read my post again, I did say it was snappy otherwise :confused:

 

The Agility 2 64GB has faster performance than the 840 Pro! (Assuming both are not collecting garbage).

 

Its why I do not recommend Samsung SSDs to Linux noobs ;)  TRIM can be weird if even configured properly, at least in the popular distributions that is. 

 

I really wish I would have splurged on the 840 Pro.. I wonder if there will be better deals next year

Source. I'm curious about how fast performance degrades w/o TRIM enabled. To my knowledge SSDs should mostly decay at the same rate if TRIM and garbage collection aren't on or properly configured, assuming we're separating Sandforce and other controllers in two separate groups (actually, it shouldn't really matter).

 

@bowei: nope, not buying it.

post #4804 of 6628
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Originally Posted by HybridCore View Post
 

Well, the audience here doesn't find it amusing or funny, just annoying.

I BEG TO DIFFER.  Hue my ssd also came in the equivalent of a big mac box and the thing also feels cheaper than a McDonalds toy.  Come to think of it, they're manufactured a lot like McDonalds 'products' as well...  

 

As you know I pretty much just rant too, I've probably had  20+ posts about how bad BF4 is but none of them go into detail.  The last time I had fun playing that game was just stealing the little bird/transport heli flying it under the Aircraft carrier at spawn and sitting there for 1-2 hours in 64 man conquest while listening to music and spamming the lyrics as fast as I can into chat.  Pretty crazy re actions from pissed teammates and I actually end up getting a few thousand points from  all the idiots that spawn on me through out the whole match.

 

EDIT: has anyone here actually seen a ssd or even hdd "degrade"?  I mean honestly I feel like it's about the same as people worrying about the LED behind their numlock key getting dim because they leave numlock on.


Edited by linglingjr - 2/24/14 at 8:00pm
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Originally Posted by HybridCore View Post
 

@bowei: nope, not buying it.

 

Ain't nothing wrong with him hating on cardboard packaging.

 

I feel you, panda.

post #4806 of 6628
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Originally Posted by HybridCore View Post
 

Source. I'm curious about how fast performance degrades w/o TRIM enabled. To my knowledge SSDs should mostly decay at the same rate if TRIM and garbage collection aren't on or properly configured, assuming we're separating Sandforce and other controllers in two separate groups (actually, it shouldn't really matter).

 

@bowei: nope, not buying it.

*sarcasm inbound* Because all NAND technology is exactly the same :D

 

840 Pro is a really good SSD, but if you want an idea on how bad it can be:

1- Install Ubuntu

2- Do not configure TRIM

3- Perform a series of synthetic transfers, or wait a few weeks ;)

4 - Slow as Sunday

5 - Profit?
 

Linux distributions will have some form of TRIM configuration enabled out of the box eventually, but AFAIK the intervals/conditions are still not concrete. 

post #4807 of 6628
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Originally Posted by bowei006 View Post
 

:happy_face1: 

University students Unite

 

^HybridCore, after he stops PMSing haha

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Tldr kicked in.
post #4809 of 6628
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Originally Posted by linglingjr View Post

I BEG TO DIFFER.  Hue my ssd also came in the equivalent of a big mac box and the thing also feels cheaper than a McDonalds toy.  Come to think of it, they're manufactured a lot like McDonalds 'products' as well...  

As you know I pretty much just rant too, I've probably had  20+ posts about how bad BF4 is but none of them go into detail.  The last time I had fun playing that game was just stealing the little bird/transport heli flying it under the Aircraft carrier at spawn and sitting there for 1-2 hours in 64 man conquest while listening to music and spamming the lyrics as fast as I can into chat.  Pretty crazy re actions from pissed teammates and I actually end up getting a few thousand points from  all the idiots that spawn on me through out the whole match.

EDIT: has anyone here actually seen a ssd or even hdd "degrade"?  I mean honestly I feel like it's about the same as people worrying about the LED behind their numlock key getting dim because they leave numlock on.

Speaking of weird stuff the num lock key on my keyboard has been acting up. Whenever I hit caps lock it flickers or sometimes goes on. It doesn't engage it though, just sticks it until I hit the key again. And when I cleaned my keyboard a few months ago I lost the plastic cap on the scroll lock key. Good thing I don't use it because it's blinding, hell.. I don't even know what scroll lock does.

Also because this is an audio site I might as well bring up this. It's as hilarious as it is annoying. I sent it as an email to JPLAY support, so forgive the obvious awkward copy/paste.


This probably sounds ridiculous, and at first I wrote it off as a coincidence, but it's happened numerous time now and has proven itself repeatable.

It's winter time in the US right now, so naturally it's dry, and static electricity has become a problem. My dad has been sitting in the other room and the couches we have generate a lot of static. To save himself from getting zapped after he gets up he either pulls out the car keys and discharges on a light switch or he comes into my room and zaps me(hmm...) Consistently if I'm listening to music using Jplay whenever he discharges playback stops. The first time it happened I was sitting in my recliner and when he shocked me the only possible way I could have been grounded would be through my Ultrasone headphones. Every time since he's been discharging on light switches at the other end of the house.

I'm hoping you guys will have some advice on this, it's become quite the nuisance. I knew the wiring in our house was bad, but the light switch on the other end of the house isn't even on the same breaker! My current settings are:

5.2 Official
DirectLink
Ultrasteam(Ultrasize 50)
Ultra-Fi DAC41
DH Labs USB Cable

And when playback stops, it doesn't just stop. The whole service becomes unresponsible until I reboot my computer. When I try and resume playback it give the error 'ASIO Init Failed: Is Device Connected?' The problem is not repeatable with other music playback software and happens wether I am using Mini or watching Youtube through ASIO Bridge. Likewise I can also make the sound crackle a little if I squirm around under the blanket I have on my chair, which I know is static related as you can see the sparks jump around the blanket.

So, is there anything I can do here? Do I need to invest in a power conditioner? Have you ever heard of something like this happening before? I'm really stumped by the fact that it even happened when my dad zapped me, I didn't think it possible for electricity to go back through the system like that.
post #4810 of 6628
Quite the story dude^ that's pretty crazy, I always make my hd600s crackle when I'm folding laundry, making my bed or squirming around but I've never heard of that happening! I'm no electrical engineer *blesses myself* but I'd imagine it's really bad grounding on the device itself -- not anything to do with the wiring of your house.

Edit: after re reading your post I really think it's something to do with your dac. When I use wasapi with foobar I need to go through the whole close chrome process if I want to watch a video and that's probably what's happening with you too since it works when you're not using asio. If it's possible to just use Windows built in audio api with your dac that'd probably fix it. Or try changing the asio settings (push to pull or maybe vise versa) I don't know that's how it is with wasapi atleast.
Edited by linglingjr - 2/24/14 at 11:37pm
post #4811 of 6628
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Originally Posted by Yazen View Post
 

Yeah, sure do.  However, the 840/Pro SSDs are one of the worst (if not worst) in terms of degradation if TRIM functionality is not enabled/non-existent.  You probably should have read my post again, I did say it was snappy otherwise :confused:

 

The Agility 2 64GB has faster performance than the 840 Pro! (Assuming both are not collecting garbage).

 

Its why I do not recommend Samsung SSDs to Linux noobs ;)  TRIM can be weird if even configured properly, at least in the popular distributions that is. 

 

I really wish I would have splurged on the 840 Pro.. I wonder if there will be better deals next year

 

Hey it's your fault for not stating anything in your previous post other than "the Samsung 840 is the worse performing ssd" without any stated reason.

 

You must also be on crack to say the Agility 2 64GB is faster performing than the 840 Pro, the Agility 2 is some of the worst performing SSD's around that does actually degrade over time in terms of performance. Anandtech wrote a massive technical review on these issues covering Sandforce chipsets. I wouldn't touch any Agility 3 or less SSD within a ten feet pole.

 

If you're experiencing slow SSD speed or no support for TRIM that is the linux distro's fault not the SSD. 

post #4812 of 6628
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Originally Posted by DefQon View Post
 

 

Hey it's your fault for not stating anything in your previous post other than "the Samsung 840 is the worse performing ssd" without any stated reason.

 

You must also be on crack to say the Agility 2 64GB is faster performing than the 840 Pro, the Agility 2 is some of the worst performing SSD's around that does actually degrade over time in terms of performance. Anandtech wrote a massive technical review on these issues covering Sandforce chipsets. I wouldn't touch any Agility 3 or less SSD within a ten feet pole.

 

If you're experiencing slow SSD speed or no support for TRIM that is the linux distro's fault not the SSD. 


OMG!  Read my OP again ;)

I am on crack, does not change the fact that the 840 pro is a paperweight on the popular Linux distros (out of the box).  :p

post #4813 of 6628
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Originally Posted by Yazen View Post
 


I pity the soul who could not get TRIM to work on the 840/Pro.  Worst performance I have ever seen on a SSD period!

Otherwise its very snappy...Whose credit card do you charge for this stuff??? :p

 

 

Ok I will do the hard work since you lack comprehension skills to read what I wrote before.

 

You mentioned TRIM not working and that is all, nothing about Linux or such. Anybody with the single slightest clue about SSD's or have used them will call your statement of trim not working outright bs. 

 

Trim does work, it is your Linux at fault, don't blame the manufacturer when 99% of other owners owning it and working fine for them when it's clearly a lack of support/driver issue with the Linux distro you're using.

 

Also trim or no trim, not as big of a deal nowadays on Idilinx chipsets then it was on Sandforce based ssds.

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DefQon, I just read your speedtest results.

 

 

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post #4815 of 6628
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Originally Posted by DefQon View Post
 

 

Ok I will do the hard work since you lack comprehension skills to read what I wrote before.

 

You mentioned TRIM not working and that is all, nothing about Linux or such. Anybody with the single slightest clue about SSD's or have used them will call your statement of trim not working outright bs. 

 

Trim does work, it is your Linux at fault, don't blame the manufacturer when 99% of other owners owning it and working fine for them when it's clearly a lack of support/driver issue with the Linux distro you're using.

 

Also trim or no trim, not as big of a deal nowadays on Idilinx chipsets then it was on Sandforce based ssds.


Its not just Linux... I only assumed you knew about the TRIM process on desktop OSes because you replied >.>

 

Pre-7 = 0 support

Windows 7 certified machines = Depends

Windows 8 certified machines = TRIM!

 

Everyone here sure is touchy about Sammy SSDs!  Never seen this much flame :O

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