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post #4051 of 9059

I would be fine with compression fittings if they didn't have that...er...texture? (don't know the word)...whatever, but it just doesn't look clean to me.

post #4052 of 9059
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Originally Posted by HybridCore View Post
 

I would be fine with compression fittings if they didn't have that...er...texture? (don't know the word)...whatever, but it just doesn't look clean to me.

Knurling?  It doesn't really bother me but I know what you mean.

post #4053 of 9059
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Originally Posted by linglingjr View Post
 

Knurling?  It doesn't really bother me but I know what you mean.

Yes, that.

 

It just doesn't look very clean to me, but I'm a bit too much of a minimalist so that's just my problem.

post #4054 of 9059
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Originally Posted by HybridCore View Post
 

Yes, that.

 

It just doesn't look very clean to me, but I'm a bit too much of a minimalist so that's just my problem.

I would't go so far as to say that is a problem necessarily.

post #4055 of 9059
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Originally Posted by Tangster View Post

Angle fittings man. Best $8 you'll spend if you water cool. My system is getting rather long in the tooth tbh. It kinda needs an update but there's still nothing really worth updating too. I suppose picking up a cheap i7 4770k and deliding it wouldn't be a bad decision. Might get 5Ghz outta that under my loop...if I don't crush it. Even WC isn't gonna cool a stock 4770k if you ramp it up, it's the stupid rubbish TIM intel are using these days. Gotta remove that stuff and replace it with something decent.

 

Any particular recommendations regarding specific fitting brands or models, or will any of 'em do?

 

Speaking of long-in-the-tooth systems, I mostly built this one because my old Q6600 box was really showing its age with current games. Going from Kentsfield to Haswell is night-and-day for anything CPU-limited. Going from Sandy Bridge to Haswell, as some might consider? Not so much...

 

Also, word is that the TIM isn't the real problem with Ivy Bridge and Haswell, but the glue between the IHS and package keeping the IHS too distant from the die. Word is that if you clean off all the original glue and re-mount the IHS using the same stock Intel TIM, it still performs much better...but given the nature of TIM, it's best to do a clean mount anyway.

 

Besides, I'd probably just skip the IHS entirely and run bare-die, FC-PGA Pentium III/Athlon-style like the old days, with the help of one of those EK mounting kits. Cut out the middleman and get straight to the source...

 

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Originally Posted by MemoryLeak View Post

Looking good Nameless, I would for sure fix the kink, Tygon is good stuff. Just throw an anti-kink coil over it and you should be good to go.

 

My only concern with anti-kink coils is matching them to the length of my tubing, since I'm not sure if a good coil would be easy to cut cleanly...well, that and they admittedly make things look a little messier inside. I'll probably go for angled compressions.

 

I did my homework regarding tubing and knew that Tygon was the way to go; funny thing was, I meant to go for A-60G Norprene, but accidentally wound up ordering R-3400 instead since I just saw that it was black Tygon tubing and didn't notice that unlike FrozenCPU, Performance-PCs didn't actually stock A-60G.

 

Still, I have no complaints. This is thick, durable stuff, not something I'd expect to fail on me.

 

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Yep. Full loop.

 

Tubing

Fittings

GPU block(or two/three)

CPU block

Pump (DDC or D5)

Rad (or two)

Reservoir

 

I dunno what price WC gear is in the US, but $200-$300 seems pretty reasonable if you pick up the rads/blocks/pump 2nd hand. Otherwise...maybe $300-$500 if you're doing a full loop.

 

Yeah, that sounds about right. My own loop cost about $200 initially after getting the rad/pump/original single 5.25" res from eBay, all with 1/2" ID barbs installed, and then ordering some more tubing and clamps from Performance-PCs. The eBay bundle really cut down on the cost, especially after I realized that the unbranded radiator the seller thought was some sort of Swiftech product was actually a Hardware Labs Black Ice GTX 360...which in turn made me kinda disappointed that anyone would treat a $100+ radiator like that. Outer shroud had a dent or two, several of the fins were bent and I had to straighten 'em out manually...but cosmetics aside, it does the job of getting the heat out of the water and into the surrounding air quite admirably, and you really don't notice said cosmetic flaws when it's installed in the 800D anyway.

 

Of course, I now have to throw in another $73 for that figure due to that Alphacool bay res (single D5 top version). I would've considered one of the far more affordable XSPC D5 top bay reservoirs, if not for that infamous leaking problem and the older version not known to leak being much harder to find...plus that front-mounted fill port looked quite convenient for refilling without pulling the whole res out.

 

I didn't NEED the fancier res, but I really didn't want my D5 dangling out inside the case, either. It really cleaned up my system's interior appearance because of that alone.

 

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I don't get why people like compression fittings. They look pretty bad to me. The reusable hose clamps from Lamptron and Bitspower looks really clean though. Monsoon fittings are...okay...

 

My main concern with clamps would be difficulty of installation (because, you know, clamping force) and possibility of not clamping enough to prevent leaking.

 

Worm gear clamps like I'm using now don't have the second problem...but it turns out they're a complete pain to work with if you can't easily get to the screws inside the case, which can be a real problem during leak testing. It's a big reason why I want to step up to compression fittings or something else easier to work with later.

post #4056 of 9059

Durelene or Tygon. Durelene is from the same makers as Tygon. It's based off of R3603 Tygon.

post #4057 of 9059
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Originally Posted by NamelessPFG View Post
 

 

Any particular recommendations regarding specific fitting brands or models, or will any of 'em do?

 

My only concern with anti-kink coils is matching them to the length of my tubing, since I'm not sure if a good coil would be easy to cut cleanly...well, that and they admittedly make things look a little messier inside. I'll probably go for angled compressions.

 

I did my homework regarding tubing and knew that Tygon was the way to go; funny thing was, I meant to go for A-60G Norprene, but accidentally wound up ordering R-3400 instead since I just saw that it was black Tygon tubing and didn't notice that unlike FrozenCPU, Performance-PCs didn't actually stock A-60G.

 

Still, I have no complaints. This is thick, durable stuff, not something I'd expect to fail on me.

I've always liked the EK fittings. That's what all mine are right now.

 

As for Tygon vs XXX brand, I don't really care. I've used Primochill and Masterkleer with no complaints from either. I currently prefer Masterkleer as it's much more flexible and easier to route than my old Primochill tubing.

 

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Originally Posted by NamelessPFG View Post
 

Yeah, that sounds about right. My own loop cost about $200 initially after getting the rad/pump/original single 5.25" res from eBay, all with 1/2" ID barbs installed, and then ordering some more tubing and clamps from Performance-PCs. The eBay bundle really cut down on the cost, especially after I realized that the unbranded radiator the seller thought was some sort of Swiftech product was actually a Hardware Labs Black Ice GTX 360...which in turn made me kinda disappointed that anyone would treat a $100+ radiator like that. Outer shroud had a dent or two, several of the fins were bent and I had to straighten 'em out manually...but cosmetics aside, it does the job of getting the heat out of the water and into the surrounding air quite admirably, and you really don't notice said cosmetic flaws when it's installed in the 800D anyway.

 

Of course, I now have to throw in another $73 for that figure due to that Alphacool bay res (single D5 top version). I would've considered one of the far more affordable XSPC D5 top bay reservoirs, if not for that infamous leaking problem and the older version not known to leak being much harder to find...plus that front-mounted fill port looked quite convenient for refilling without pulling the whole res out.

 

I didn't NEED the fancier res, but I really didn't want my D5 dangling out inside the case, either. It really cleaned up my system's interior appearance because of that alone.

I got about 1/2 my fittings, a DDC(and a spare D5 that I might fit next time I overhaul my PC) and one of my GTX670 blocks off Bit-tech's FS section which saved me a fair chunk. I really like those Alphacool bay reservoir, although if my case had the space I would probably have gone for one of the tube reservoirs that integrate directly into the pump as a top. Sadly, I had nowhere to mount such a thing.

post #4058 of 9059

I snagged a used D5 pump on ebay for $50.  I have no other wc goodies yet so I obviously  can't use it.... It is the non-adjustable speed version, if I have a fan controller (it's the 5.25 bay touchscreen thing) can I use that to control the fan speed?

 

When you're downloading something or just leave your computer on overnight and it's essentially idle do you guys just leave your pumps going?  In my case would you just let it go full blast for the entire time it's on?


Edited by linglingjr - 1/12/14 at 11:15pm
post #4059 of 9059

Well damn, I haven't been around in a long while, have I?  It's good to be back.

 

As for computer-related things I've been working on recently, I got a ASUS laptop for Christmas.  Really dirt cheap budget ($300 on Cyber Monday), but considering I'll hardly use it for gaming, appropriate.  It came with Windows 8.1 Pro, and I initially switched back to Windows 7, but damn, Windows 8.1 Pro runs beautifully similar if you install Classic Shell.  However, perhaps the annoying part of this laptop is working on a dual format.

 

I need to add Linux on the system due to how much easier it is to compile code in command line than using an IDE.  So, as a first time Linux user, I thought I'd first go with Linux Mint Cinnamon.  Unfortunately, you don't exactly learn how to use the OS, so I formatted the partitions it was using.  However, I accidentally destroyed my BCD as I was attempting to delete the Linux boot files from my EFI partition.  That was a grueling reformat of Windows I had to do.  However, I decided to learn how, and knowing this has made my experience better.

 

After this, I did a bit of research, and after finding a guide, I said "screw it" and decided to try installing Arch Linux.  Yes, it's a distro that has to be installed by command line.  And the install failed due to various issues a few times.  However, I learn enough each time I do that I begin to understand the structure.  It did help that I can cleanly remove Arch without much ado.  I also found a script I could use before I tried the first time, and I've been able to use it.  However, I needed to have some compatibility issues worked on, and that began my experimentation on the pull request on github I authored.  Let me tell you, writing bash shell is almost as unforgivable as writing C++.  Now, though, we've got most of the bumps worked out, and so I believe that the next time I try installing, I should be successful.

 

Oh, and on a completely different note, it seems I'm looking at the ~$300 market in headphones using my Christmas money.  Are the Mad Dogs v3.2 still the lead in the range, or have I missed something?


Edited by JbstormburstADV - 1/12/14 at 11:46pm
post #4060 of 9059
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Originally Posted by JbstormburstADV View Post
 

Well damn, I haven't been around in a long while, have I?  It's good to be back.

 

As for computer-related things I've been working on recently, I got a ASUS laptop for Christmas.  Really dirt cheap budget ($300 on Cyber Monday), but considering I'll hardly use it for gaming, appropriate.  It came with Windows 8.1 Pro, and I initially switched back to Windows 7, but damn, Windows 8.1 Pro runs beautifully similar if you install Classic Shell.  However, perhaps the annoying part of this laptop is working on a dual format.

 

I need to add Linux on the system due to how much easier it is to compile code in command line than using an IDE.  So, as a first time Linux user, I thought I'd first go with Linux Mint Cinnamon.  Unfortunately, you don't exactly learn how to use the OS, so I formatted the partitions it was using.  However, I accidentally destroyed my BCD as I was attempting to delete the Linux boot files from my EFI partition.  That was a grueling reformat of Windows I had to do.  However, I decided to learn how, and knowing this has made my experience better.

 

After this, I did a bit of research, and after finding a guide, I said "screw it" and decided to try installing Arch Linux.  Yes, it's a distro that has to be installed by command line.  And the install failed due to various issues a few times.  However, I learn enough each time I do that I begin to understand the structure.  It did help that I can cleanly remove Arch without much ado.  I also found a script I could use before I tried the first time, and I've been able to use it.  However, I needed to have some compatibility issues worked on, and that began my experimentation on the pull request on github I authored.  Let me tell you, writing bash shell is almost as unforgivable as writing C++.  Now, though, we've got most of the bumps worked out, and so I believe that the next time I try installing, I should be successful.

 

Oh, and on a completely different note, it seems I'm looking at the ~$300 market in headphones using my Christmas money.  Are the Mad Dogs v3.2 still the lead in the range, or have I missed something?


Since when were mad dogs ever the top of the pack?  (okay, maybe the pun was intended hehe)

Really depends what you listen to and intended usage.  I am biased when it comes to T50RP mods, so forgive me :tongue:

 

I think the DT880/990 Pro, HD600/650, AD1000x, MA900, and Phillips X1 are pretty good for music and gaming.  I think DT990 Pro is best value considering Amazon is still selling them for $150, can use the rest of the money for a snazzy tube amp.

 

If I had to get a closed headphone I would probably go for an A2000x, loved the A900x.

post #4061 of 9059

Yes, I would prefer closed headphones, as I plan to use them wherever I go.  And the A2000X is WAY out of my budget.  $300 is a strict limit.

post #4062 of 9059
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Originally Posted by JbstormburstADV View Post
 

Yes, I would prefer closed headphones, as I plan to use them wherever I go.  And the A2000X is WAY out of my budget.  $300 is a strict limit.

I do not want to dabble into taboo here, but hypothetically speaking, I think mad dogs have a lot of hype backing them :veryevil:

You know what you want more than I or anyone else here, so order ASAP so you can get them sooner :biggrin:

post #4063 of 9059
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Originally Posted by Yazen View Post
 

I do not want to dabble into taboo here, but hypothetically speaking, I think mad dogs have a lot of hype backing them :veryevil:

You know what you want more than I or anyone else here, so order ASAP so you can get them sooner :biggrin:

+1

 

If you want the ultimate closed can, though, get the Alpha Dogs. Your wallet will writhe and suffer.

post #4064 of 9059
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Originally Posted by thatBeatsguy View Post
 

+1

 

If you want the ultimate closed can, though, get the Alpha Dogs. Your wallet will writhe and suffer.

 

Yeah... I'd love to get the Alpha Dogs, but $600 is way out of reach for now.

post #4065 of 9059
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