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post #3691 of 9059
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Well, I'm not buying components based on highest scores, but i guess other people are for the sake of it then? That's an interesting logic, unless you enjoy partaking in competition for the sake of it by being high in the score boards. I primarily use them for stability testing, and to occasionally look at the scores to see where a good price/performance lies, which is much more meaningful. Then again, Anandtech is much better for that purpose.

Each has its own uses.

 

WEI isn't the most Enthusiast usable suite.

 

But it allows a person to easilly compare between computers at Best Buy.

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Each has its own uses.

 

WEI isn't the most Enthusiast usable suite.

 

But it allows a person to easilly compare between computers at Best Buy.

I can agree with that. Except that most people shopping for computers at Best Buy are "lifestyle" type users -internet surfing and light processing. Their most noticeable upgrades will be a SSD and a faster internet connection :tongue:

post #3693 of 9059
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I can agree with that. Except that most people shopping for computers at Best Buy are "lifestyle" type users -internet surfing and light processing. Their most noticeable upgrades will be a SSD and a faster internet connection :tongue:

That is literally and will literally fix 95% of the issues of 'computer speed' that people complain to me about.

 

That is unless they start running Maya, and Autocad and others simmultaneously


BF4 looks pretty good on Ultra

 

but Crysis 3 still takes the cake I think.

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That is literally and will literally fix 95% of the issues of 'computer speed' that people complain to me about.

 

That is unless they start running Maya, and Autocad and others simmultaneously


BF4 looks pretty good on Ultra

 

but Crysis 3 still takes the cake I think.

Do you work at BB or something? I used to be part of the Geek Squad some time ago :tongue: The sad thing is that alot of those guys are complete amateurs and just attempt to solve everything by re-formatting, when the customer could've done it themselves, making their "expertise" useless. That's airing out some dirty laundry right there lol.

 

EDIT: If the people visiting that place would quit looking at porn and installing pirated software and using AVG/MSE, 99% of their problems would be prevented :tongue: 


Edited by brunk - 12/13/13 at 1:57pm
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Do you work at BB or something? I used to be part of the Geek Squad some time ago :tongue: The sad thing is that alot of those guys are complete amateurs and just attempt to solve everything by re-formatting, when the customer could've done it themselves, making their "expertise" useless. That's airing out some dirty laundry right there lol.

 

EDIT: If the people visiting that place would quit looking at porn and installing pirated software and using AVG, 99% of their problems would be prevented :tongue:

Nope, I used to go there often for no reason and lounge around.

 

To be fair though. Complete formating may just be easier and less of a headache then dealing with specific problems. Do it enough and you not only have a fix all solution, but with enough expertise, and logistics setup to do many and do a lot of them fast. Plus it 'sounds' better to a consumer almost....new PC.

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Update on Windows issues

 

Yep, going back to Windows 8 fixed all my problems.

 

Some of my drivers I guess just weren't compatible or had problems with some of 8.1's tid bits :(

 

**** it. Who cares. 

 

 

Just ran UniEngine Heaven. Ultra, 1080p, v synch, tesselation, 2x msaa .....it was beautiful............beautiful....

post #3697 of 9059
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Nope, I used to go there often for no reason and lounge around.

 

To be fair though. Complete formating may just be easier and less of a headache then dealing with specific problems. Do it enough and you not only have a fix all solution, but with enough expertise, and logistics setup to do many and do a lot of them fast. Plus it 'sounds' better to a consumer almost....new PC.

It's still the wrong answer though from the customers perspective. Re-formatting has it's place, but doing it all the time is a cop out for not knowing how to remove simple spyware, driver issues, and poor AVs that feel compelled to fully scan your hard drive 24/7 destroying your HDD. If one want to get a "new PC" feel, installing something like Linux Mint will give a fresh feel, plus it only sips resources compared to Windows. Sorry, I'm not trying to give you a hard time, this just comes from lots of experience lol.

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It's still the wrong answer though from the customers perspective. Re-formatting has it's place, but doing it all the time is a cop out for not knowing how to remove simple spyware, driver issues, and poor AVs that feel compelled to fully scan your hard drive 24/7 destroying your HDD. If one want to get a "new PC" feel, installing something like Linux Mint will give a fresh feel, plus it only sips resources compared to Windows. Sorry, I'm not trying to give you a hard time, this just comes from lots of experience lol.

I'm always speaking from the perspective of the other side even if I don't agree with it by the way. It's just what I do


 

I'm arguing from a company perspective right now.

 

If you are a company that is huge, need to appease X amount of people as fast, and cheaply as possible in terms of labor fees you pay your own workers by how fast, and how cheap the repair is. With a X return rate through the service, speed, dilligence, cost of the repair along with other things that you factor in. You will of course then find the one that benefits you.

 

Companies think about everything like that. What level of schitty service + lack of pay for workers etc etc equals the profit that will be the maximum that they can get while still retaining X amount of visitors and repeat customers etc. 

 

Be as schitty as possible while getting as much return and use of your service as possible for as cheap as possible to get as much as possible.

 

Nothing wrong with that. But then again, my definition of wrong is very different from many people's. 

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Well, I can tell you that "re-formatting" everything from that perspective is still the wrong answer. Why? Because I worked in one of the top 10 busiest Best Buy stores in the USA and there was plenty of leeway for turnaround time to properly use the tools at hand, without re-formatting everything. It's more of a cop out than anything else, trust me.

 

Ever heard of "MRI Tools", that's BB's own disc to fix darn near everything, short of a new HDD and such. There's pirated copies floating about and such, but they do "call home", so they could sue you pretty easily if they wanted to if you use it while connected to the internet.


Edited by brunk - 12/13/13 at 2:28pm
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Well my SSD finally came after taking two weeks to go from California to Oregon..... So I'm about to reinstall windows 7 on it and format my old 500gb hdd. How appropriate for your guys conversation lol.

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Well my SSD finally came after taking two weeks to go from California to Oregon..... So I'm about to reinstall windows 7 on it and format my old 500gb hdd. How appropriate for your guys conversation lol.
Wow. BTW, is "ling ling" supposed to be Cantonese? It sounds like "0".
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Well my SSD finally came after taking two weeks to go from California to Oregon..... So I'm about to reinstall windows 7 on it and format my old 500gb hdd. How appropriate for your guys conversation lol.
Remember AHCI FOR SSD BEFORE reformat
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Well, I can tell you that "re-formatting" everything from that perspective is still the wrong answer. Why? Because I worked in one of the top 10 busiest Best Buy stores in the USA and there was plenty of leeway for turnaround time to properly use the tools at hand, without re-formatting everything. It's more of a cop out than anything else, trust me.

Ever heard of "MRI Tools", that's BB's own disc to fix darn near everything, short of a new HDD and such. There's pirated copies floating about and such, but they do "call home", so they could sue you pretty easily if they wanted to if you use it while connected to the internet.
Never heard of it but nice

Its hard to tell which apps phone home for me :/
post #3703 of 9059
If I move over to Windows 8, my VM experimentation has showed me that it's quite livable as a desktop OS...IF I immediately install Start8 and ModernMix to get rid of the hot corner elements and keep Metro ftom dominating the entire screen.

Now if I could just think of how to restore the Win7 Tablet Input Panel...it might see service on my convertibles then.

Speaking of which, I pulled the trigger on a sub-$300 Fujitsu T901 recently, so now I have to find a buyer for my HP 2730p...
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If I move over to Windows 8, my VM experimentation has showed me that it's quite livable as a desktop OS...IF I immediately install Start8 and ModernMix to get rid of the hot corner elements and keep Metro ftom dominating the entire screen.

Now if I could just think of how to restore the Win7 Tablet Input Panel...it might see service on my convertibles then.

Speaking of which, I pulled the trigger on a sub-$300 Fujitsu T901 recently, so now I have to find a buyer for my HP 2730p...

Hot corners can mostly be disabled in 8.1.

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Hot corners can mostly be disabled in 8.1.

Can't touch what's hot. 

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