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post #3241 of 9059

Hey guys, do you know any good games that might run on my older PC?

I'm getting tired of having to move to the HTPC/Gaming PC in the living room, especially with the temps getting colder (although gradually), and my mom using the TV which is also the display for the HTPC. Anyway, here are my specs:

  • Intel Core 2 Duo 4400 @ 2.00 GHz
  • 8 GB RAM
  • Nvidia GeForce GT240 512MB
  • Windows 7 Ultimate SP1

 

That should be about it, just tell me if you need more info. Thanks in advance, XD

post #3242 of 9059
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Originally Posted by thatBeatsguy View Post
 

Hey guys, do you know any good games that might run on my older PC?

I'm getting tired of having to move to the HTPC/Gaming PC in the living room, especially with the temps getting colder (although gradually), and my mom using the TV which is also the display for the HTPC. Anyway, here are my specs:

  • Intel Core 2 Duo 4400 @ 2.00 GHz
  • 8 GB RAM
  • Nvidia GeForce GT240 512MB
  • Windows 7 Ultimate SP1

 

That should be about it, just tell me if you need more info. Thanks in advance, XD

Half Life, Deus Ex, Hitman, Splinter Cell.. ARKANOID ..  Joking haha  (still great games though)


League of Legends would definitely work smooth.  Not sure if you're into Futball, but Fifa14 should work.  Counter Strike : GO or AVA might be worth a shot as well.


There's plenty of aging games that are still fun to play.  Depends on what genres you like. 

post #3243 of 9059
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Originally Posted by thatBeatsguy View Post

Hey guys, do you know any good games that might run on my older PC?
I'm getting tired of having to move to the HTPC/Gaming PC in the living room, especially with the temps getting colder (although gradually), and my mom using the TV which is also the display for the HTPC. Anyway, here are my specs:
  • Intel Core 2 Duo 4400 @ 2.00 GHz
  • 8 GB RAM
  • Nvidia GeForce GT240 512MB
  • Windows 7 Ultimate SP1

That should be about it, just tell me if you need more info. Thanks in advance, XD
Hmmm, do you have a Steam?

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Half Life, Deus Ex, Hitman, Splinter Cell.. ARKANOID ..  Joking haha  (still great games though)


League of Legends would definitely work smooth.  Not sure if you're into Futball, but Fifa14 should work.  Counter Strike : GO or AVA might be worth a shot as well.


There's plenty of aging games that are still fun to play.  Depends on what genres you like. 
Windows Chess.
post #3244 of 9059

Uh-oh. I think I need to slip my GTX 480 in the oven for 10-15 minutes for a crude BGA reflow. (I really need a set of proper BGA rework equipment, but that's thousands of dollars altogether and demands its own room, especially for the reflow oven with the conveyor belt and temperature control zones and everything.)

 

It still mostly works, but GTA IV benchmarking causes it to BSoD. It's not going to last through clamping alone.

 

Speaking of which, it's only now that I realize just how much that 3 GHz Q6600 was holding back that GTX 480. Same graphics card and settings, just with different hardware backing it up.

 

DCS World performance (using this benchmark file): 13 FPS average (Q6600 3.0 GHz) vs. 24-25 FPS average (4670K 4.2 GHz). Keep in mind that it performs a lot better once you've taken off and are up in the air, and the benchmark instructions specifically state to sit on the runway.

 

GTA IV benchmark: I really should have recorded some exact figures for the Q6600, or at least dug up the old log files. But I'm pretty sure it was 55 FPS or under compared to the 4670K's 65 FPS, everything maxed. In-game performance sure feels a lot smoother.

 

Needless to say, I made the right choice in going for a CPU upgrade first before going for a modern GPU that would trounce the GTX 480. It also tells me there's little benefit in getting something above GTX 480/570/660 performance-wise for such a CPU, yet those cards still result in a huge jump from the 8800 GT, so those GPUs are probably the sweet spot for old Core 2-era hardware.

 

Now I just have to test some of my other games. Rise of Flight, IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover, and PlanetSide 2 shoot to mind first. It helps that the last one of those has the dev team scrambling to optimize it properly.

 

I also got Supreme Commander in an indie bundle a while back, and that one was especially infamous for being punishing on the CPUs of the day (basically the Crysis of RTSs, and a real driver of Core 2 Quad sales due to being one of the few games at the time that made use of quad-cores); I should bench that too with some especially big battles going.

post #3245 of 9059

 'Behringer UCA202 Audio Interface

 

Welp my hm 801 USB functions just dropped dead... I hear the usb dac on it sucks anyways, so I've finally gotten around to getthis this lovely little dac <3 which is good seeing as I've been curious to hear how it sounds for a while now honestly. Best of all I can feed it into my pb1 for LIMITLESS portable power

 

Ofc this little beauty is to be used with my Portable Gear, the US dac is for my Laptop and the laptop is for MOVIES <3 

post #3246 of 9059
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Originally Posted by thatBeatsguy View Post
 

Hey guys, do you know any good games that might run on my older PC?

I'm getting tired of having to move to the HTPC/Gaming PC in the living room, especially with the temps getting colder (although gradually), and my mom using the TV which is also the display for the HTPC. Anyway, here are my specs:

  • Intel Core 2 Duo 4400 @ 2.00 GHz
  • 8 GB RAM
  • Nvidia GeForce GT240 512MB
  • Windows 7 Ultimate SP1

 

That should be about it, just tell me if you need more info. Thanks in advance, XD

Nice build (before I get into games). I have a 240 running in my system too, as a Physx Card, since I can't afford another 650TI Boost and had it laying around.

 

Depending on what resolution you plan to play at, you can probably run games like Mirrors Edge (low settings?), Half Life Series, Portal and Portal 2, Prototype, Team Fortress 2, Halo, Halo 2, older Call of Duty games (before they went bad), Tron 2.0 (awesome game), Final Fantasy 7, Supreme Commander, anything pre 2005 (I guess). 

post #3247 of 9059

HUGE steam sale guys. Loads of awesome horror games for halloween

post #3248 of 9059
We should make up some puns for Grammar Nazis (the Third Write, etc., idk?)
post #3249 of 9059

I don't know whether to feel stupid or slap somebody right now for causing all this collective confusion.

 

As it turns out, VRIN and VCCIN are actually the same voltage adjustment under different names, and for further confusion, Asus calls it "Initial/Eventual CPU Input Voltage" in the UEFI menu.

 

I'm going to take those off of Auto and play with those manually for a bit, in case that helps with my overclocking venture.

post #3250 of 9059

lol, dont worry i had lots of wtf moments trying to translate Asus marketing gimmicky names for stuff.  They also have a habit of moving and renaming stuff between bios updates to keep you on your toes.

 

"Initial/Eventual CPU Input Voltage" sounds like an oxymoron, i wonder does that translate to initial startup voltage?

post #3251 of 9059
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HUGE steam sale guys. Loads of awesome horror games for halloween

 

No doubt, I picked up loads of great stuff already.  I kind of have a habit of buying way more games than I'll ever play, especially during these sales.  As it is, I have wayyyy too many games already to begin with, and I've been enjoying bf4 so much that I'll probably focus on that for a while.  I'm always down to play stuff on steam.  I don't know if theres a dedicated steam thread or anything, but I'd be happy to add anyone, got about 100 slots left on my friends list :D.  I noticed theres a steam head fi group too, but it doesn't seem to be active in any way whatsoever.  Its a shame really, as head-fi and pc gaming seem to naturally go together.  It definitely would be fun to get some gaming going on.

post #3252 of 9059
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Originally Posted by mcandmar View Post

lol, dont worry i had lots of wtf moments trying to translate Asus marketing gimmicky names for stuff.  They also have a habit of moving and renaming stuff between bios updates to keep you on your toes.

 

"Initial/Eventual CPU Input Voltage" sounds like an oxymoron, i wonder does that translate to initial startup voltage?

 

It's actually two different settings: "Initial CPU Input Voltage", for the voltage applied at POST, and "Eventual CPU Input Voltage", which is supposedly what you get when it's about to boot an OS.

 

I'm not sure if there's a reason for even having two different settings for that reason. I just put 'em at 1.9V, set VID to 1.35V (remember, I'm running custom liquid cooling here, temps haven't peaked beyond 83c for me), took it back to 4.4 GHz, and...

 

...what the hell, it's stable now, even for 15 minutes or so of Prime95 on small FFTs, which is usually enough for a BSOD going by past experiences? Was leaving those voltage settings on "Auto" the real mistake all along?

 

Maybe I've got a chance at 4.5 and even 4.6 GHz now. Still not sure I trust this chip just yet, but maybe it could have been misblamed, trying to throw more Vcore at it if VRIN/VCCIN/CPU Input Voltage is the real culprit.


Edited by NamelessPFG - 10/30/13 at 8:28pm
post #3253 of 9059

I would say so, Auto just didn't work for me at all.  I run mine at 1.295v but it would boot and work away at 1.270v upto 4.8ghz, its only while stress testing for hours at a time i slowly worked up that extra .025v to get it 100% stable under full load/heat.

 

I would set a reasonable static voltage (1.9v does not sound reasonable to me :blink:) , up the load calibration to 120%, and use an XMP memory profile to get the optimum memory voltage setting and see where it takes you.

post #3254 of 9059

They do that for a few reasons, like when the Sandy-E processors came out they had massive cold-boot issues, and one part was it tried to apply the minimum voltage but theres like a shock to the system as the power supply feeds everything else and a split second hiccup could cause the PC not to POST.

 

Another reason for that, is if you are extreme overclocking with LN2 or something, you sometimes have to tweak the CPU voltage just to POST.

post #3255 of 9059

Okay, so I pushed it up to 4.5 GHz. VID (target Vcore) at 1.4V, CPU Input Voltage (both settings)/VCCID/VRIN at 2.0V.

 

It BSOD'd during ten runs of IntelBurnTest at Very High/4096 MB RAM usage, during the fourth run.

 

To test out my new discovery here, I did something completely counterintuitive: I LOWERED the VID a little to 1.39V, to give a little more of that desired delta between Vcore and VCCID.

 

You know what? It just passed all 10 runs this time. I'm gonna get Prime95 going for a bit, small FFTs again, to see if it still holds stability...and it just BSOD'd, not even five minutes in. Still got some work to do.

 

Perhaps the Haswell overclocking guides aren't stressing this little detail enough; VID/desired Vcore alone, along with keeping the cache and RAM speeds down, isn't going to cut it. The Vcore/VCCID delta will have to be managed manually if you want to get somewhere with Haswell.

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