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post #3151 of 6233

Or get a Gigabyte PSU.  Mine has been working for 6 years without any hiccups, and was $40.

I bought it when I was out of the States, has been through quite a lot!

 

My current PSU is a Rosewill Bronze 550W, been running for about 2 years now.  I think the only problematic PSUs I have ever had were with Thermaltake and Inland (Microcenter brand).

 

EDIT:  *Frequent failures with the same model, could have been a bad batch at the store/online, etc.


Edited by Yazen - 10/24/13 at 2:34pm
post #3152 of 6233
Not all of them are Seasonic. Aren't some of them rebadges of Channel Well and other designs?

Regardless, it makes Corsair PSUs a bit mixed reputation-wise among enthusiasts. It's overall positive, but I've heard a surprising amount of negativity concerning cheaper models like the CX400 and even some of their higher-end stuff.

Of course, the PSU enthusiasts in question tend to be real snobby, the type to peer over jonnyGURU reviews and other ones that go especially in-depth, analyzing physical designs inside the case and getting ripple measurements from scopes and all that in addition to the usual load tests.
post #3153 of 6233

You're right, not all of them are Seasonic, but its clear that the AX series is.  I don't know who manufactures their cheaper power supplies, but I wouldn't be surprised if they're not all that great.  It seems to be that way in the power supply world, you get what you pay for... for the most part.  I definitely wouldn't consider myself anywhere near the level of "PSU Enthusiast", but I do consider the power supply to be the most critical part of any PC build.  Generally I go with large, efficient PSUs and run them nowhere near maximum load (maybe 1/3-1/2 maximum).  I wonder how many problems with the smaller units could be attributed to running too close to the maximum output of the PSU, which will cause it to run noisy, hot, and eventually fail, so headroom is the key.  Of course, I've had the experience too of cheaper PSUs coming DoA... so theres always that.  Either way, theres nothing worse for your system's long term health than running an unstable PSU, so make sure to choose carefully. 

post #3154 of 6233
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You're right, not all of them are Seasonic, but its clear that the AX series is.  I don't know who manufactures their cheaper power supplies, but I wouldn't be surprised if they're not all that great.  It seems to be that way in the power supply world, you get what you pay for... for the most part.  I definitely wouldn't consider myself anywhere near the level of "PSU Enthusiast", but I do consider the power supply to be the most critical part of any PC build.  Generally I go with large, efficient PSUs and run them nowhere near maximum load (maybe 1/3-1/2 maximum).  I wonder how many problems with the smaller units could be attributed to running too close to the maximum output of the PSU, which will cause it to run noisy, hot, and eventually fail, so headroom is the key.  Of course, I've had the experience too of cheaper PSUs coming DoA... so theres always that.  Either way, theres nothing worse for your system's long term health than running an unstable PSU, so make sure to choose carefully. 

AX1200 = Flextronics.

Rest of AX line = Seasonic

Rest of the line up is Seasonic and CWT, no really pattern to who gets what contract.

 

I'm a fan of BeQUiet PSU's personally. Great value for money. Typically OEMed by Taiwanese company HEC.


Edited by Tangster - 10/24/13 at 3:14pm
post #3155 of 6233
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Originally Posted by evilhippie View Post

You're right, not all of them are Seasonic, but its clear that the AX series is.  I don't know who manufactures their cheaper power supplies, but I wouldn't be surprised if they're not all that great.  It seems to be that way in the power supply world, you get what you pay for... for the most part.  I definitely wouldn't consider myself anywhere near the level of "PSU Enthusiast", but I do consider the power supply to be the most critical part of any PC build.  Generally I go with large, efficient PSUs and run them nowhere near maximum load (maybe 1/3-1/2 maximum).  I wonder how many problems with the smaller units could be attributed to running too close to the maximum output of the PSU, which will cause it to run noisy, hot, and eventually fail, so headroom is the key.  Of course, I've had the experience too of cheaper PSUs coming DoA... so theres always that.  Either way, theres nothing worse for your system's long term health than running an unstable PSU, so make sure to choose carefully. 
I have a budget CX430M. Hopefully this'll last. (BTW, you seem new to this thread, hm?)
post #3156 of 6233

People are saying that there won't be ANY third party coolers until 2014 for the 290x.... 

post #3157 of 6233

Probably gonna be waterblocks by december.

post #3158 of 6233

Not including waterblocks of course.

 

Edit: @Tangster: Yup. I would actually expect EK to have one by November since they're usually fast with this stuff.

 

Edit: Nevermind!

 

http://www.overclock.net/t/1436596/ek-ek-fc-r9-290x-for-amd-radeon-r9-290x-makes-its-debut

http://www.ekwb.com/news/407/19/EK-FC-R9-290X-for-AMD-Radeon-R9-290X-makes-it-s-debut/

 

Lol.


Edited by HybridCore - 10/24/13 at 6:45pm
post #3159 of 6233
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Originally Posted by evilhippie View Post
It seems to be that way in the power supply world, you get what you pay for... for the most part. I definitely wouldn't consider myself anywhere near the level of "PSU Enthusiast", but I do consider the power supply to be the most critical part of any PC build.  Generally I go with large, efficient PSUs and run them nowhere near maximum load (maybe 1/3-1/2 maximum).

 

How large are we talking? 600W? 800W? 1KW? I suppose that depends on what kind of system you're building, but let's assume the PSU's a quality unit with plenty of clean amps to deliver and it's powering a fast CPU and high-end to top-of-the-line GPU, both overclocked.

 

Meanwhile, I stopped by Micro Center today and picked up an i5-4670K. Costa Rica, 3313B365. Can't tell if this one's gonna be a good batch or not yet; most of the information I've found concerns the Malaysian ones. Right now, though, my focus is on getting the FFXIV copy that was prominently advertised on their site and NOT given with that CPU, perhaps because I forgot to ask about it. (I was in a bit of a rush at the time.)

 

Note that I can't test it just yet without my new motherboard. That may come tomorrow, or Saturday. Depends on whether FedEx will bump up their delivery estimate a day early since it's already in Atlanta.

post #3160 of 6233

Anybody else here excited for Kaveri? Hopefully the hype behind it can be somewhat justified unlike Bulldozer.

post #3161 of 6233
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Probably gonna be waterblocks by december.

watercooling gpus seems really un-necessary to me, for gaming at least I don't think it improves performance nearly as much as OCing the schiit out of your cpu.  Just gives you a bigger e-peen IMO.

post #3162 of 6233
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watercooling gpus seems really un-necessary to me, for gaming at least I don't think it improves performance nearly as much as OCing the schiit out of your cpu.  Just gives you a bigger e-peen IMO.

Watercooling GPU so you can OC the schiit out of your GPU as well.

 

Anyway, I do it because watecooling is quieter than air coolers.


Edited by Tangster - 10/24/13 at 7:32pm
post #3163 of 6233
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Originally Posted by linglingjr View Post
 

watercooling gpus seems really un-necessary to me, for gaming at least I don't think it improves performance nearly as much as OCing the schiit out of your cpu.  Just gives you a bigger e-peen IMO.

 

In a normal case you might be right, but I seriously doubt the 290x will be able to overclock much, if it at all without a waterblock.  If its pulling 95c on air I don't possibly see why someone would want or even be able to crank it any higher.  I'm sure on water though this thing would be a total monster, so its not just for the e-peen factor... although it looks really cool ;)

post #3164 of 6233
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In a normal case you might be right, but I seriously doubt the 290x will be able to overclock much, if it at all without a waterblock.  If its pulling 95c on air I don't possibly see why someone would want or even be able to crank it any higher.  I'm sure on water though this thing would be a total monster, so its not just for the e-peen factor... although it looks really cool ;)

I'm excited to see how the 290x will fair with water cooling as well.  

 

Has anyone else had problems with certain games where you get fine fps and then the second you wiggle your mouse the fps drops to 7-15 fps depending on how fast you move your mouse?  I've had this problem with audiosurf (not a big deal because I usually just use the S and D keys) and Dead Space 3 (made the game unplayable) I just discovered that turning off "enhance pointer precision" in windows fixes the problem entirely... FrankieOnPC also says it improves your accuracy in game.... 

 

EDIT: I agree you'd be crazy to try and OC the 290x with the stock cooler.  I wonder how different the temps would be if you replaced the fan/wired it to the mobo instead so it's not stuck at AMDs preset 55% max speed?  


Edited by linglingjr - 10/24/13 at 8:04pm
post #3165 of 6233
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The corsair PSUs are indeed rebrands, but are by no means "cheap" PSUs.  They are made by Seasonic, which is one of the better regarded manufacturers of power supplies.  The corsair is also usually a bit cheaper as well.  If you compare Corsair's platinum rated PSUs to the similarly spec'd Seasonic you'll see that its literally the same PSU, appearance and everything.  Hope this helps!
You're right!
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