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post #3136 of 9059
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Originally Posted by Tman5293 View Post
 

So the 290X is now available. Several review sites already have their full reviews up. Some highlights:

 

  • Priced at $550
  • Beats the Titan in uber mode
  • Runs very hot!

 

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Full list of reviews here: http://www.overclock.net/t/1436561/various-amd-radeon-r9-290x-reviews-thread

My understanding as to why it runs so hot is that it is because AMD wants it to.  Being AMD they can't design a quiet cooler to save their lives so they have the fan profile set to run at 40% or less.  However, MaximumPC stated they "...even left it running Heaven 4.0 over a 3-day period only to come back and find it purring right along, pegged at 94C, with the GPU's clock speed fluctuating around 925MHz or so."

post #3137 of 9059
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Originally Posted by Tman5293 View Post
 

So the 290X is now available. Several review sites already have their full reviews up. Some highlights:

 

  • Priced at $550
  • Beats the Titan in uber mode
  • Runs very hot!

 

perfrel.gif

 

Full list of reviews here: http://www.overclock.net/t/1436561/various-amd-radeon-r9-290x-reviews-thread

Yea I'm willing to bet when the new cards com out from the other manfactors we will see lower temps... maybe. OR seeing as it's SO cheap.... just buy a water block for it

post #3138 of 9059
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Originally Posted by lostinthesauce View Post
 

My understanding as to why it runs so hot is that it is because AMD wants it to.  Being AMD they can't design a quiet cooler to save their lives so they have the fan profile set to run at 40% or less.  However, MaximumPC stated they "...even left it running Heaven 4.0 over a 3-day period only to come back and find it purring right along, pegged at 94C, with the GPU's clock speed fluctuating around 925MHz or so."

They should just ask MSI or some other 3rd party to design their next line up of stock coolers.

post #3139 of 9059
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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post
 

Yea I'm willing to bet when the new cards com out from the other manfactors we will see lower temps... maybe. OR seeing as it's SO cheap.... just buy a water block for it

 

 

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Originally Posted by Tangster View Post
 

They should just ask MSI or some other 3rd party to design their next line up of stock coolers.

I would love to see an Asus DirectCU II version; they really know how to design heatsinks.

 

Going back to the MaximumPC article; they claimed that there's already waterblocks that will take ~20C off.  Assuming that will correlate into a 10%+ increase in performance from available overclocking it would just make the card even more beastly.

post #3140 of 9059

I can't wait for the r9 290. The 290x is a bit more than im willing to spend on a video card.

post #3141 of 9059
It's Fermi all over again, just from AMD this time...if I get an R9 290, that means I'll have to waterblock it, just like my GTX 480.

At least I know that NVIDIA's lost their lead and will have to do some serious price-cutting. They also can't afford to botch Maxwell now that the Titan's been toppled.

This is definitely looking like a promising GPU generation...
post #3142 of 9059
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It's Fermi all over again, just from AMD this time...if I get an R9 290, that means I'll have to waterblock it, just like my GTX 480.

At least I know that NVIDIA's lost their lead and will have to do some serious price-cutting. They also can't afford to botch Maxwell now that the Titan's been toppled.

This is definitely looking like a promising GPU generation...

It's not that the 290X is really over the top hot like Fermi when it needed a revolutionary cooler to tame it at stock. The 290X just has a schiit stock cooler...it's pretty much the same one as the old HD5 series with slightly different shroud aesthetics.

post #3143 of 9059
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It's not that the 290X is really over the top hot like Fermi when it needed a revolutionary cooler to tame it at stock. The 290X just has a schiit stock cooler...it's pretty much the same one as the old HD5 series with slightly different shroud aesthetics.

Ninety-four Celsius....almost hot enough to boil water is not over the top hot?

post #3144 of 9059

I have no room in my new case to waterblock anything.  Not even my PSU wires are accommodated properly (wrapped and stuffed in every nook and cranny).

The Node 304 lets out almost all of the GPU noise, so I'll be waiting for something silent.

 

On a separate thought, why do BF3 players talk about hitboxes?  I highly doubt DICE calculates collisions with hitboxes..  It boggles my mind haha

Also in CS:GO, the "pros" say to use 2xMSAA and FXAA for best accuracy.  Pretty sure any AA would make you less accurate, especially in long distance ranges + low resolution monitor.

post #3145 of 9059
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On a separate thought, why do BF3 players talk about hitboxes?  I highly doubt DICE calculates collisions with hitboxes..  It boggles my mind haha

How else would they calculate it then?

 

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Ninety-four Celsius....almost hot enough to boil water is not over the top hot?

Yeah, but the cooler barely spins up compared the old HD5 series hairdryers. If you let the fan ramp to 3600RPM it'd probably be 75C.

post #3146 of 9059
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Originally Posted by Tangster View Post
It's not that the 290X is really over the top hot like Fermi when it needed a revolutionary cooler to tame it at stock. The 290X just has a schiit stock cooler...it's pretty much the same one as the old HD5 series with slightly different shroud aesthetics.

 

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Ninety-four Celsius....almost hot enough to boil water is not over the top hot?

 

I was gonna say...both cards run about that hot on reference HSFs with stock clocks and voltage.

 

The GTX 480 hardly had a revolutionary HSF, just a heatpipe heatsink with a blower fan behind it, which was typical at the time. That vapor chamber heatsink innovation didn't happen until GTX 580, and even then, I'm not sure how much it actually helped.

 

Both the R9 290 and GTX 480 have crappy stock HSFs where you get high temps, loud fans, or possibly both. Both cards also improve with better HSF designs and waterblocks. I'm not seeing the difference here.

 

Whatever the case, the next graphics card I get will probably be waterblocked anyway. My loop can handle the extra heat dump, I'm sure.

 

Also, speaking of HSF hairdryers, I'm reminded of that NVIDIA joke/apology video about the infamous GeForce FX 5800 "Dustbuster". To think that basic HSF setup became the standard to the point where single-slot graphics cards are practically unheard of today...


Edited by NamelessPFG - 10/24/13 at 11:09am
post #3147 of 9059
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Originally Posted by Tangster View Post
 

How else would they calculate it then?

 

Yeah, but the cooler barely spins up compared the old HD5 series hairdryers. If you let the fan ramp to 3600RPM it'd probably be 75C.

There's many ways to calculate collisions.  Hitboxes are a relic, dating back to the beginning of video games.

 

 

Here is a little in something I made in paint to help illustrate the issue somewhat.  Will have to look at original size to see all the text properly.

post #3148 of 9059

Good job AMD on the R9 290X. That's one heck of a beast, and for almost half the cost of Titan too.

post #3149 of 9059
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Originally Posted by Tangster View Post

They should just ask MSI or some other 3rd party to design their next line up of stock coolers.
Sapphire already had one I think.

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Originally Posted by lostinthesauce View Post

Ninety-four Celsius....almost hot enough to boil water is not over the top hot?
Yes, yes it is.
Anyhow, someone said that Corsair PSUs are just cheap rebrands?
post #3150 of 9059

The corsair PSUs are indeed rebrands, but are by no means "cheap" PSUs.  They are made by Seasonic, which is one of the better regarded manufacturers of power supplies.  The corsair is also usually a bit cheaper as well.  If you compare Corsair's platinum rated PSUs to the similarly spec'd Seasonic you'll see that its literally the same PSU, appearance and everything.  Hope this helps!


Edited by evilhippie - 10/24/13 at 2:24pm
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