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post #3121 of 9059
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If I just had future sight back then, I'd be running a full 32 GB instead of 16 GB...probably would be faster than DDR3-1333 too, but I don't think many applications (not benchmarks) benefit much from memory overclocking compared to CPU and GPU overclocking.

 

I know what you're thinking: "16 GB is already overkill, why do you need 32 GB?" Turns out that Windows has some spiffy new RAM disk utilities now, plus I like to multi-task on my systems. As it turns out, Web browsers alone will eat up several gigabytes with all the tabs I open if left unchecked, and then there are the few 64-bit-capable titles like DCS World that force me to cut down on the background processes to free up valuable RAM. Yeah, it's not hard for me to utilize 8 GB right now, if for no other reason than the software I use probably being full of memory leaks and crap.

 

Anyway, I've got most of that new computer being delivered this week. The one thing I haven't bought yet is the CPU, since I need to be sure my bank account can take the $212 hit. (How can I get it that cheaply, you say? Two words: Micro Center. Now if I just had a job that would qualify me for Intel Retail Edge...)

 

Also, looking back at all the IBM Model M talk...that is unquestionably the one best value in keyboards, so long as you don't mind a 2KRO matrix. I'm still rocking my 1391401 on my desktop. The only other switch that even comes close for me is the Cherry MX Clear, which is incredibly difficult to find as an option compared to the other Cherry MX switch types. I haven't tried the older IBM beam springs yet, though...

 

Ultimately, I want either an ErgoDox with MX Clears, or a Model F 122-key converted to PS/2 or USB with full NKRO. That probably won't happen for a while.

 

Windows...getting to where Linux was in 2000 (when I first discovered /dev/shm).

post #3122 of 9059
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Originally Posted by lostinthesauce View Post

Windows...getting to where Linux was in 2000 (when I first discovered /dev/shm).

 

And where AmigaOS was in 1985, for that matter...

post #3123 of 9059
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Windows...getting to where Linux was in 2000 (when I first discovered /dev/shm).

Yup.. haha

The difference between FAT32 performance on Windows and Linux is astonishing.  I actually get the theoretical speeds on Linux distros.

 

Windoze geeks should be a religion, really.  They flaunt their cheap a** Dells and HP claiming their paper sheet specs are better than Apple, etc.  They should join there efforts with the Android crowd, God do I hate Android.

 

Windows 8 added some needed performance overhauls, but is cumbersome to actually use.  Like I need a bandwidth counter on a desktop, give me back my network connect dialogue box!  Never used a charm, not even once.

 

 

 

Regarding the older posts, DPI over 2400 is overkill.  2400 DPI on 1440p on a standard mousepad is great to me.  Sure you can dial down the sensitivity in video games and have 100,000 DPI, however, you're not going to actually have better response in video games.

 

AFAIK a lot of FPS players prefer 700-850 DPI lol.  Not sure how it is on CoD MW3, but on CoD 4, BF2, BF3, CS 1.1, CS 1.6, and CS:GO, most of the top players run a lower dpi.

 

I know of some games having a lower sensitivity and higher DPI leading to accuracy issues.  Software controlled sensitivity can be implemented good and bad, hardware is usually better.  Unless you're pushing an 8k monitor, the 8000+ DPI is not needed.

post #3124 of 9059
I remember the days back when Minecraft wasn't ruled by whiny 7 year olds with non-creative names. (Now they always involve a YouTuber or mob). Back when it wasn't famous or "cool". Back when it was just a small indie title. I feel like such a hipster.
post #3125 of 9059
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Originally Posted by Yazen View Post
 


Sidewinder X5?  Its a really nice mouse, discontinued though.

I have a spare if interested ;)

 

Also have a Corsair M60

 

Just trying to save you a few dimes is all, :p

Wow old question, but I love my M60... I've beaten the hell out of mine and it still works! 

post #3126 of 9059
There's a gaming mouse round up at the below link for anyone interested:
http://www.techspot.com/review/728-gaming-mice-comparison/

TL;DR
They favour the Logitech G700S for shape, weight, software support, and wireless.

As an aside I use the Logitech G700S and have fairly small hands. I do like a heavy mouse and it's nice to be able to drop it in my laptop bag and just jam the receiver into a usb port to get some gaming on. It was bought as a replacement for the Logitech G9 which was another nice big mouse I maxed the weight on but the cable got screwed up.
post #3127 of 9059

I remember how everyone was saying AMD was about to kick intel and nvidia off their seats at the top?  Well it seems like AMD some how managed to screw it all up.  the 290x.... Looks like a cheap plastic PoS, with the fans on the highest settings it gets up to 94 c!!!! WTF it takes 11 minutes to get back down to idling at 44 c how is this even possible?  Sure beats the 780 but come on.  I wanted this to kick nvidias gpus in the asses but not when it gets to 94c and sounds like a jet engine.  I'm probably an AMD fanboy and I still hope their next line of CPUs are good but I would much rather get a 780 over the 290x because you can actually OC the 780s, get NORMAL temps, isn't loud AF, can get a ton of different factory coolers that don't look/feel/perform like absolute trash.

post #3128 of 9059
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Originally Posted by NamelessPFG View Post
 

 

And where AmigaOS was in 1985, for that matter...


I believe Amiga still has one pinky sticking out of the grave.

post #3129 of 9059
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Originally Posted by linglingjr View Post
 

I remember how everyone was saying AMD was about to kick intel and nvidia off their seats at the top?  Well it seems like AMD some how managed to screw it all up.  the 290x.... Looks like a cheap plastic PoS, with the fans on the highest settings it gets up to 94 c!!!! WTF it takes 11 minutes to get back down to idling at 44 c how is this even possible?  Sure beats the 780 but come on.  I wanted this to kick nvidias gpus in the asses but not when it gets to 94c and sounds like a jet engine.  I'm probably an AMD fanboy and I still hope their next line of CPUs are good but I would much rather get a 780 over the 290x because you can actually OC the 780s, get NORMAL temps, isn't loud AF, can get a ton of different factory coolers that don't look/feel/perform like absolute trash.

I used to be a huge ATI fan; had all their cards from the Rage128 AIW through the 9800Pro.  Unfortunately I then made the switch to full time Linux usage (didn't have much time to game) and Nvidia's drivers just give fewer problems under that OS.

post #3130 of 9059
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I believe Amiga still has one pinky sticking out of the grave.

 

More like a middle finger flipping the entire computer world off...meanwhile, those dedicated Amigans out there still will not let the brand die, under any circumstances. You should see the prices they pay for PowerPC accelerator cards for classic Amigas, AmigaOnes, or other hardware that can run AmigaOS 4.x. Long story short, it requires a PowerPC CPU, and you CANNOT use old Macs or most other PowerPC platforms due to licensing restrictions.

 

But as overpriced as vintage Amigas are on eBay, at least I can find them for sale. Try saying that about a Sharp X68000 or Fujitsu FM Towns.

 

Anyway, moving on...I finally got another big batch of PC hardware.

 

-Assorted radiator/fan screws and an extra 2 feet of liquid tubing. I had to improvise a little with the radiator/fan mounting until now.

-A new PSU! Rather expensive and very much overkill for my current system, but I see this one carrying me through two decades of service, and I don't necessarily want to rule out the possibility of SLI/CrossFire setups as GPUs become increasingly power-hungry.

-A 2 TB external USB 3.0 HDD...whose enclosure is easy to open up so you can remove the drive inside. Yes, it was actually cheaper than buying a bare OEM drive. As it just so happens, the model matches one of my existing drives, so I could consider setting up RAID down the road...

 

Now all that remains for a complete new PC are the motherboard and CPU...unfortunately, the mobo's not slated to arrive until Saturday, and I won't have the money for the CPU until next month.

post #3131 of 9059
 
Originally Posted by linglingjr View Post
 

I remember how everyone was saying AMD was about to kick intel and nvidia off their seats at the top?  Well it seems like AMD some how managed to screw it all up.  the 290x.... Looks like a cheap plastic PoS, with the fans on the highest settings it gets up to 94 c!!!! WTF it takes 11 minutes to get back down to idling at 44 c how is this even possible?  Sure beats the 780 but come on.  I wanted this to kick nvidias gpus in the asses but not when it gets to 94c and sounds like a jet engine.  I'm probably an AMD fanboy and I still hope their next line of CPUs are good but I would much rather get a 780 over the 290x because you can actually OC the 780s, get NORMAL temps, isn't loud AF, can get a ton of different factory coolers that don't look/feel/perform like absolute trash.

 

All of AMD's past reference coolers sucked though, so it's nothing too surprising, there wont be any custom coolers from the other manufacturers for a while, because AMD rushed to get these out the door ASAP.

 

Things should get better in a couple of months, hopefully. :p

post #3132 of 9059
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There's a gaming mouse round up at the below link for anyone interested:
http://www.techspot.com/review/728-gaming-mice-comparison/

TL;DR
They favour the Logitech G700S for shape, weight, software support, and wireless.

As an aside I use the Logitech G700S and have fairly small hands. I do like a heavy mouse and it's nice to be able to drop it in my laptop bag and just jam the receiver into a usb port to get some gaming on. It was bought as a replacement for the Logitech G9 which was another nice big mouse I maxed the weight on but the cable got screwed up.

Well, read the review, and am now interested. I've seen one of these as a mouse for a computer rig in an electronics store, but I never realized that it, too, was wireless. 

So that brings up the question: how does it put up against the G602?

 

With the 602's 250 hour battery life, I don't see why I wouldn't use it day after day after day playing al kinds of games with an adequate, if not subpar, 2500dpi sensor. Still, the 700S has an 8200dpi sensor, like the Naga 2014. My main gripe, however, is the pricing.The G602 and the Naga 2014 are both priced at ~$65, while somehow, the 700S is priced at nearly double that price. Still, I might find the 700S at a similar price point, so you could leave the price points aside.

Both Logitech mice come with >15 buttons, while the Naga establishes itself as a true MMO mouse with a whopping 19.

 

With all that considered, I think the Naga's as good as dead since it's wired, but I think the extra buttons might come in handy when I start playing FF14 or Starcraft 2. Now both Logitech mice are closing in for the final choice. Which do you think should I choose? I'm already leaning towards the 700S, but with a battery that lets you keep on playing, I feel like I want the 602. I'll just leave you to suggest something. If you have any other mice for me to suggest, let me know. All I want for it though is:

  • High DPI (at least 2k should be about right for FPS, IMO)
  • 10+ buttons (should be enough to access the hotbar without my left hand leaving the WASD since it often fails to find its way back)
  • Smooth Operator operation of macro software
  • Easy mapping of buttons

 

Weight is not an issue, though I am more used to lighter mice. Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

post #3133 of 9059
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Originally Posted by linglingjr View Post
 

I remember how everyone was saying AMD was about to kick intel and nvidia off their seats at the top?  Well it seems like AMD some how managed to screw it all up.  the 290x.... Looks like a cheap plastic PoS, with the fans on the highest settings it gets up to 94 c!!!! WTF it takes 11 minutes to get back down to idling at 44 c how is this even possible?  Sure beats the 780 but come on.  I wanted this to kick nvidias gpus in the asses but not when it gets to 94c and sounds like a jet engine.  I'm probably an AMD fanboy and I still hope their next line of CPUs are good but I would much rather get a 780 over the 290x because you can actually OC the 780s, get NORMAL temps, isn't loud AF, can get a ton of different factory coolers that don't look/feel/perform like absolute trash.

Yea hoping we can see another Sapphire OC edition GPU using te 290x. My 6950 runs like a champ. THings been through hell and back but those fans keep it at the same temp throughout even the hottest days of the year! 

post #3134 of 9059

So the 290X is now available. Several review sites already have their full reviews up. Some highlights:

 

  • Priced at $550
  • Beats the Titan in uber mode
  • Runs very hot!

 

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Full list of reviews here: http://www.overclock.net/t/1436561/various-amd-radeon-r9-290x-reviews-thread

post #3135 of 9059
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Originally Posted by thatBeatsguy View Post
 

Well, read the review, and am now interested. I've seen one of these as a mouse for a computer rig in an electronics store, but I never realized that it, too, was wireless. 

So that brings up the question: how does it put up against the G602?

 

With the 602's 250 hour battery life, I don't see why I wouldn't use it day after day after day playing al kinds of games with an adequate, if not subpar, 2500dpi sensor. Still, the 700S has an 8200dpi sensor, like the Naga 2014. My main gripe, however, is the pricing.The G602 and the Naga 2014 are both priced at ~$65, while somehow, the 700S is priced at nearly double that price. Still, I might find the 700S at a similar price point, so you could leave the price points aside.

Both Logitech mice come with >15 buttons, while the Naga establishes itself as a true MMO mouse with a whopping 19.

 

With all that considered, I think the Naga's as good as dead since it's wired, but I think the extra buttons might come in handy when I start playing FF14 or Starcraft 2. Now both Logitech mice are closing in for the final choice. Which do you think should I choose? I'm already leaning towards the 700S, but with a battery that lets you keep on playing, I feel like I want the 602. I'll just leave you to suggest something. If you have any other mice for me to suggest, let me know. All I want for it though is:

  • High DPI (at least 2k should be about right for FPS, IMO)
  • 10+ buttons (should be enough to access the hotbar without my left hand leaving the WASD since it often fails to find its way back)
  • Smooth Operator operation of macro software
  • Easy mapping of buttons

 

Weight is not an issue, though I am more used to lighter mice. Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

I am the wrong person to ask for a competitive mousing opinion.  I was never a really good gamer to begin with and over the last decade have played less and less as responsibilities mounted.  I do know what I like and is comfortable; seems like I only charge the 700 every two weeks or so; get's plugged in overnight so I can't even comment on recharge times.  But it only uses a single AA rechargeable so it shouldn't be too bad; you could always keep another AA within reach and change it out in a second.

 

If you've used a higher end Logitech before there are certain things that you end up just liking.  Such as having a quick button to either engage the 'clickey' or 'smooth' wheel action.  The button for on the fly changing of sensitivity (great to switch from spray and pray to a sniper shot).  I also like the textured surface more than a smooth one as it just feels right to me.  Note that on the 700 it is limited to the sides where your thumb and last two fingers are.  Perhaps because I do not palm my mice it feels better to me...

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