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post #1966 of 9059
I know but the anvil and hammer method seem cooler. 20 degree difference or thereabout should help. Actually the poor thermal paste and that may be a big part besides more op per clock cycle. Afterall 4,8 is not to bad though I suppose you can't take that for granted even on a high end wc setup.
post #1967 of 9059
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I know but the anvil and hammer method seem cooler. 20 degree difference or thereabout should help. Actually the poor thermal paste and that may be a big part besides more op per clock cycle. Afterall 4,8 is not to bad though I suppose you can't take that for granted even on a high end wc setup.

Yeah, anvils and hammers are manly beerchug.gif

 

Haswell is not manly, has the TDP of a girl scout..

 

Better take a look at this!  http://www.techpowerup.com/184960/amd-centurion-is-fx-9000-scrapes-5-00-ghz.html

 

Now that is something you would delid good sir!

post #1968 of 9059

Everyone knows that AMD chip is a e-peen chip for OC competitions. Crazy TDP on that thing!

post #1969 of 9059

What's that? You guys want more New Vegas screens?

 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

I know nobody wants more New Vegas screens, but I feel like posting these, so suck it up!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Did some spring cleaning on my Fraps folder. Deleted about 5GB worth.

post #1970 of 9059

Just for kicks, decided to take some screens without ENB series. It's pretty jarring to go back to vanilla!

post #1971 of 9059
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What's that? You guys want more New Vegas screens?

 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

I know nobody wants more New Vegas screens, but I feel like posting these, so suck it up!

 

Did some spring cleaning on my Fraps folder. Deleted about 5GB worth.

 

 

Those are beautiful!  I get horrible micro lag on Fallout 3, so never got to New Vegas....  I'll try to get the latest Fallout 3 updates and see what happens, they had horrible AMD support initially.  

 

 

I hate fraps, taksi is my preferred recorder.  taksi really does do a better job if you're using the right program build.  Audio recording is finicky, however one you've set everything up you can take advantage of your encoder of choice.

 

The fraps encoder is junk... Poor quality, poor performance, and large file size..

post #1972 of 9059

Only video recorder I use is afterburner.

post #1973 of 9059
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Those are beautiful!  I get horrible micro lag on Fallout 3, so never got to New Vegas....  I'll try to get the latest Fallout 3 updates and see what happens, they had horrible AMD support initially.  

 

 

I hate fraps, taksi is my preferred recorder.  taksi really does do a better job if you're using the right program build.  Audio recording is finicky, however one you've set everything up you can take advantage of your encoder of choice.

 

The fraps encoder is junk... Poor quality, poor performance, and large file size..

 

I've never really had a problem with Fraps. Video quality is perfectly fine, for most games it doesn't kill performance, and their file size issue has been pretty well alleviated with later updates. A one minute video at 1440x900 is about 1GB for me.

post #1974 of 9059
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I've never really had a problem with Fraps. Video quality is perfectly fine, for most games it doesn't kill performance, and their file size issue has been pretty well alleviated with later updates. A one minute video at 1440x900 is about 1GB for me.

Taksi on xvid high quality profile 1080p/60fps = 800MB/Hour.  The quality of the video looks substantially better as well, and there are less signs of compression.  The FFmpeg encoder tool is amazing!

 

Its only a few MB, give it a go if you have the time to tweak around wink.gif

post #1975 of 9059
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Just bought Civ 5 Gold Edition for $9.99 or 6.56 British Pounds.

 

Didn't want to wait for Steam sale. Price was already low as hell. And the new DLC, BNW most likely wouldn't be added on anyway

post #1976 of 9059
Rant (Click to show)

 

AMD fanboy has invaded my beloved Bit-tech. Arguing that the 8350 is the best processor because of potential software support. Meh, it's like trying to talk to a wall, won't even run benchmarks:

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If they don't support the AMD properly then I simply won't bother.

In fact, the only possible reason to buy a CPU appears to be for gaming these days, especially Crysis 3 because it's one of relatively few games with excellent AMD support.

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Even from the very start the 8150 was able to compete with the I7 when it was fully supported . The thing is we are now headed into a world that is changing, and it won't be long before every game that comes out supports all 8 cores. That will move the goalposts dramatically.

No it wasn't. It's competitive because AMD dropped the price. Additionally, it still isn't fully supported.

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I'm not denying Intel's single threaded dominance and I'm not going to say the AMD's don't use more power because they clearly do. They don't, however, get anywhere near as hot as an Intel CPU.

That's cool and all, but that has more to do with AMD chips having a 70C TJ cutoff, they simply can't run as hot before thermal throttling to prevent failure. They also have a significantly higher power draw.

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For £200 right now you can buy a 990FX board (though only 4+1 power stages) and a 8320 and clock it to 4.2ghz at which point you are pissing with the big boys. The Haswell I5 costs the same as both the 8320 and the board.

Haswell is new and relatively high end, of course it's expensive. An overclocked i5 2500K is competitive with the 8350 in most tasks. an overclocked i7 2600K or 3770K gives the AMD chip a good thrashing in most applications and a serious competitor in heavily bulldozer optimised applications.

 

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for AMD making a resurgence in the mid level enthusiast market, but if all a person has to go on is that the AMD chips are similar in performance in GPU bottlenecked applications while being less power efficient and significantly worse in single thread applications(although now at near parity with properly multithreaded applications) then they have a long way to go.

 

post #1977 of 9059
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AMD fanboy has invaded my beloved Bit-tech. Arguing that the 8350 is the best processor because of potential software support. Meh, it's like trying to talk to a wall, won't even run benchmarks:

In fact, the only possible reason to buy a CPU appears to be for gaming these days, especially Crysis 3 because it's one of relatively few games with excellent AMD support.

No it wasn't. It's competitive because AMD dropped the price. Additionally, it still isn't fully supported.

That's cool and all, but that has more to do with AMD chips having a 70C TJ cutoff, they simply can't run as hot before thermal throttling to prevent failure. They also have a significantly higher power draw.

Haswell is new and relatively high end, of course it's expensive. An overclocked i5 2500K is competitive with the 8350 in most tasks. an overclocked i7 2600K or 3770K gives the AMD chip a good thrashing in most applications and a serious competitor in heavily bulldozer optimised applications.

 

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for AMD making a resurgence in the mid level enthusiast market, but if all a person has to go on is that the AMD chips are similar in performance in GPU bottlenecked applications while being less power efficient and significantly worse in single thread applications(although now at near parity with properly multithreaded applications) then they have a long way to go.

 

He does have some problems there haha. And yep. My 965BE will shut off at around 64C if I remember correctly. Thus it hovers around 34C when I usually do my stuff.

 

 

Rant to gamefly.

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Hello Gamefly. I am not happy with this incident. I had many places to buy from with the same price where yours was only minutely lower. Your representatives friendly comments on Reddit's game deals thread prompted me to buy more games from Gamefly. But I now see that this was a mistake. I have now had two problems regarding a very late delivery of product keys for my games. I bought the game to play it as soon as possible and this has changed my plans and my friends for the entire night. Your client's service to games which require STEAM keys has been low and have required my attention to the issue both times. 
 
This is a legitimate order and I authorize it. Gamefly as a Steam key game re-seller is bordering on my blacklist. 
 
These comments are in no way directed towards you support staff at Gamefly who courteously and bravely respond to these responses. You guys get this day in and day out. Gamefly's lack of attention to rectifying their ordering and key delivery process is causing this and I am not happy with them. I hope you at support have a lovely day and that Gamefly in general delivers prompt response to preventing such issues from happening to their main target audience in the future. 

 

Basically this is the second time it happened. I buy the game, and then they tell me schiit happened and I need to do email authorization through a support ticket. So I need to wait until support gets to my email and sees it to get my key.

post #1978 of 9059
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He does have some problems there haha. And yep. My 965BE will shut off at around 64C if I remember correctly. Thus it hovers around 34C when I usually do my stuff.

 

Rant to gamefly.

 

Basically this is the second time it happened. I buy the game, and then they tell me schiit happened and I need to do email authorization through a support ticket. So I need to wait until support gets to my email and sees it to get my key.

My old HTPC chip (Athlon X2 250) never got hot either.


I'd just blacklist gamefly. Companies get one mistake in my book. Just one, then they get blacklisted.

 

So far on my blacklist:

  • Overclockers.co.uk
  • Asus
  • Creative(actual creative products, not Fostex OEMs)
  • Microlab

Fok them. Fok them all.

post #1979 of 9059
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My old HTPC chip (Athlon X2 250) never got hot either.


I'd just blacklist gamefly. Companies get one mistake in my book. Just one, then they get blacklisted.

 

So far on my blacklist:

  • Overclockers.co.uk
  • Asus
  • Creative(actual creative products, not Fostex OEMs)
  • Microlab

Fok them. Fok them all.

I don't do that usually.

 

ASUS, OCN have all been pretty schiitty in terms of responces I get from them. ASUS USA support is quite terribad. And OCN is filled with non objectivists for the most part. HOWEVER. OCN does still have objectivists that have large followings for it. Good stuff there.

 

I'm pretty pissed right now at Gamefly for this.

post #1980 of 9059
Originally Posted by Tangster View Post

So far on my blacklist:

 

I refuse to buy anything OCZ, Thermaltake, Corsair, HIS, Razer, Gigabyte or MSI. 

 

I know it's all about luck, but if I have one defective product, I just don't buy anything from them again. tongue.gif

 

I kind of hate Dell too, because my monitor developed a fault 6 months outside warranty. Bad luck that the new Australian consumer laws weren't in place when I got the monitor, or else they'd still have to replace it even though its outside warranty.

 

I'm starting to despise Logitech now too, I always get the double-click problem with their mice, very annoying.

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