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post #286 of 3347
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Originally Posted by Humannequin View Post

The MDR-1 and M-100 looks really awesome, I'll have to hold out until I read some reviews on them. Any idea what the prices on them are yet?

 

$299 for both.

post #287 of 3347
I've had these for a few days and been comparing them to my hd-25 w/ custom copper cable from galaxy s2 and s3 as well from an m- dac/ matrix m-stage combo on my pc. I feel they are roughly on the same level overall, possessing a less fatiguing treble, similar soundstage but muddier, less defined and extended bass. The grainier, rolled off treble contributes to their lack of imaging vs the hd-25 however when amped properly they are much less harsh sounding and can be listened to at higher volumes than the hd-25 while sounding full-bodied and relatively balanced (the fun v-shaped sig of the hd-25 becomes too top heavy at high volumes IMO). While I like the fact they are not peaky monstrosities like the last Senn I tried, the hd700, they feel a little dull and low-fi considering the price. Their tonal balance is pleasingly close to the hd650 but they are vastly inferior in all aspects, especially ambient detail and imaging. They are below the hd 595 in detail retrieval. They also just dont go very loud driven by a smartphone like the s3, below the hd-25 in volume and certainly the Amperior. The Amperior are better in all regards including bass impact and definition, so given the choice between these 2 similar priced phones its a no brainer.

I'll be taking these back for a refund.
post #288 of 3347
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Originally Posted by Kyle 491 View Post

I've had these for a few days and been comparing them to my hd-25 w/ custom copper cable from galaxy s2 and s3 as well from an m- dac/ matrix m-stage combo on my pc. I feel they are roughly on the same level overall, possessing a less fatiguing treble, similar soundstage but muddier, less defined and extended bass. The grainier, rolled off treble contributes to their lack of imaging vs the hd-25 however when amped properly they are much less harsh sounding and can be listened to at higher volumes than the hd-25 while sounding full-bodied and relatively balanced (the fun v-shaped sig of the hd-25 becomes too top heavy at high volumes IMO). While I like the fact they are not peaky monstrosities like the last Senn I tried, the hd700, they feel a little dull and low-fi considering the price. Their tonal balance is pleasingly close to the hd650 but they are vastly inferior in all aspects, especially ambient detail and imaging. They are below the hd 595 in detail retrieval. They also just dont go very loud driven by a smartphone like the s3, below the hd-25 in volume and certainly the Amperior. The Amperior are better in all regards including bass impact and definition, so given the choice between these 2 similar priced phones its a no brainer.
I'll be taking these back for a refund.


I think I've heard enough in several posts here to remove Momentum from my short list.  There are simply too many good options out there and around the corner at the same price point to offer even a great looking headphone with shortcomings indicated by several that include lack of detail and unfocused bass.


Edited by Craigster75 - 9/30/12 at 10:45am
post #289 of 3347
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Originally Posted by Kyle 491 View Post

I've had these for a few days and been comparing them to my hd-25 w/ custom copper cable from galaxy s2 and s3 as well from an m- dac/ matrix m-stage combo on my pc. I feel they are roughly on the same level overall, possessing a less fatiguing treble, similar soundstage but muddier, less defined and extended bass. The grainier, rolled off treble contributes to their lack of imaging vs the hd-25 however when amped properly they are much less harsh sounding and can be listened to at higher volumes than the hd-25 while sounding full-bodied and relatively balanced (the fun v-shaped sig of the hd-25 becomes too top heavy at high volumes IMO). While I like the fact they are not peaky monstrosities like the last Senn I tried, the hd700, they feel a little dull and low-fi considering the price. Their tonal balance is pleasingly close to the hd650 but they are vastly inferior in all aspects, especially ambient detail and imaging. They are below the hd 595 in detail retrieval. They also just dont go very loud driven by a smartphone like the s3, below the hd-25 in volume and certainly the Amperior. The Amperior are better in all regards including bass impact and definition, so given the choice between these 2 similar priced phones its a no brainer.
I'll be taking these back for a refund.

 

Thank you for what appears to be an honest review, in that you compared them to the other Sennheiser models. 

post #290 of 3347
Dear everyone! My Akg K272 just broke. ( frown.gif )
I am looking for a replacement. Is this headphone good for me, considering I've owned the AKG's I just mentioned.

I am thinking about the AKG K550 or the V moda Lp2 (crossfade, if that means anything).

Edit: Forgot to tell which music I like. I like: indie folk, indie rock. À Little bit dubstep on it's time. And I REALLY like listening to audiobooks.

I listen to my iPod Classic (6th generation) And iPhone 4.

Thanks!


Greets,
Rob.
Edited by iCupboard - 9/30/12 at 11:26pm
post #291 of 3347
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Originally Posted by Kyle 491 View Post

I've had these for a few days and been comparing them to my hd-25 w/ custom copper cable from galaxy s2 and s3 as well from an m- dac/ matrix m-stage combo on my pc. I feel they are roughly on the same level overall, possessing a less fatiguing treble, similar soundstage but muddier, less defined and extended bass. The grainier, rolled off treble contributes to their lack of imaging vs the hd-25 however when amped properly they are much less harsh sounding and can be listened to at higher volumes than the hd-25 while sounding full-bodied and relatively balanced (the fun v-shaped sig of the hd-25 becomes too top heavy at high volumes IMO). While I like the fact they are not peaky monstrosities like the last Senn I tried, the hd700, they feel a little dull and low-fi considering the price. Their tonal balance is pleasingly close to the hd650 but they are vastly inferior in all aspects, especially ambient detail and imaging. They are below the hd 595 in detail retrieval. They also just dont go very loud driven by a smartphone like the s3, below the hd-25 in volume and certainly the Amperior. The Amperior are better in all regards including bass impact and definition, so given the choice between these 2 similar priced phones its a no brainer.
I'll be taking these back for a refund.

Are you using the US S3 or the international?

post #292 of 3347
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Originally Posted by iCupboard View Post

V moda Lp2 (crossfade, if that means anything).

 

I seriously doubt you will like the LP2 as it is very bassy.  If you're thinking about going down that road due to the build quality and aesthetics, the upcoming M-100 would serve you much better as it has a more balanced sound signature.

post #293 of 3347
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Originally Posted by warrenpchi View Post

 

I seriously doubt you will like the LP2 as it is very bassy.  If you're thinking about going down that road due to the build quality and aesthetics, the upcoming M-100 would serve you much better as it has a more balanced sound signature.

 

Alright. Thanks for your information!

Any thoughts on the other headphones (Sennheiser Momentum, AKG K550 as well? Do you think the V-moda M-100 will sound the same as the K272HD or not too far apart, anyways... I really liked that crisp mids it produced, so... :)) Btw, the reason my AKG K272's broke, is because the cable broke. So I am really looking for a heaphone with detachable cables. I know the AKG K550's do not have any detachable cables, but I am trusted with AKG's. :) So you may say I love the neutral sound they produce. :) 

 

Can I order V-moda's, when I live in the Netherlands with not too much trouble you reckon? 

 

EDIT: For your information, I travel a lot and tend to use them anywhere I go. (or I want to, anyway) On the bus, on the bike (BADDIE! Traffic!), in the car (when I am not driving, obviously), train, you name it! :) So I would love if you can take this in to account, when giving me advice which headphone I am going to use. :) 

 

Thanks!


Edited by iCupboard - 10/1/12 at 12:56am
post #294 of 3347
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Originally Posted by iCupboard View Post

Alright. Thanks for your information!

 

Any thoughts on the other headphones (Sennheiser Momentum, AKG K550 as well? Do you think the V-moda M-100 will sound the same as the K272HD or not too far apart, anyways... I really liked that crisp mids it produced, so... :)) Btw, the reason my AKG K272's broke, is because the cable broke. So I am really looking for a heaphone with detachable cables. I know the AKG K550's do not have any detachable cables, but I am trusted with AKG's. :) So you may say I love the neutral sound they produce. :) 

 

Can I order V-moda's, when I live in the Netherlands with not too much trouble you reckon? 

 

Thanks!

 

Sure, welcome.  I can't say about the Momentum/K550 as I haven't had any experience with either of them.  frown.gif

 

Wait a second, can't you get a replacement cable for the K272?  Or am I wrong in assuming it has a detachable cable like my K240?

 

I would think that once they are released, it should be pretty easy to score an M-100 in most places, including the Netherlands.  It's intended to be a mass market item.  smile.gif

post #295 of 3347
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Originally Posted by warrenpchi View Post

 

Sure, welcome.  I can't say about the Momentum/K550 as I haven't had any experience with either of them.  frown.gif

 

Wait a second, can't you get a replacement cable for the K272?  Or am I wrong in assuming it has a detachable cable like my K240?

 

I would think that once they are released, it should be pretty easy to score an M-100 in most places, including the Netherlands.  It's intended to be a mass market item.  smile.gif

Sad enough it has no detachable cable. If it had, I would love to keep it. I loved that sound. :) 

I was looking for a way to MAKE it a detachable cable, but I am not technical enough to accomplish that. :( (Like a mod. :)) 

 

And thanks for the information. I really like the design of the V-moda, and it looks like it is really sturdy too. I can use that, when I am on the go. :) I have a knack for letting my headphone drop. :P 

post #296 of 3347
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Originally Posted by iCupboard View Post

And thanks for the information. I really like the design of the V-moda, and it looks like it is really sturdy too. I can use that, when I am on the go. :) I have a knack for letting my headphone drop. :P 

 

Yeah I would think so.  Unless it's drastically different in style from every other V-Moda headphone, it will be built like a tank.  And I'm pretty sure it will come with one of those form-fitted hardshell cases that they offer.  So portability is definitely a go! 

post #297 of 3347

I was interested in this headphones until it was mentioned that one can do better at this price mark.

 

What are the main competitors for full-size closed backs at this price point?

(V-Moda was mentioned already - I actually really like the sound, but I think they're one of the ugliest headphones I've ever seen.)

post #298 of 3347
Sony MDR-1R is on the verge of being released and looks very interesting as well.
post #299 of 3347
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Originally Posted by GREQ View Post

I was interested in this headphones until it was mentioned that one can do better at this price mark.

 

What are the main competitors for full-size closed backs at this price point?

(V-Moda was mentioned already - I actually really like the sound, but I think they're one of the ugliest headphones I've ever seen.)


Available today:

Ultrasone Signature DJ ($699 but wanted to include as it meets other criteria)

PSB M4U2

AKG Tiesto K167

Ultimate Ears 6000, 9000

Denon D600

 

Coming very soon:

MDR-1 as mentioned above

PSB M4U1

AKG Tiesto K267

Velodyne vTrue

Sony XB line 

Yamaha Pro Series 400 and 500

 

I can't say for certain which of these is better or worse than Momentum as for many it will come down to personal taste, just saying it is a buyer's market right now with so many choices and worth comparing first.


Edited by Craigster75 - 10/1/12 at 8:09am
post #300 of 3347
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Originally Posted by Kyle 491 View Post

They also just dont go very loud driven by a smartphone like the s3, below the hd-25 in volume.

 

Thanks for the objective comparison of the Momentum and the HD 25.  Your statement above puzzles me, though, given the specs of the two headphones.  My understanding was that the Momentum is a very low impedance phone (18-ohm), while the original HD 25 is in the 60 to 70 ohm range.  It would seem that the Momentum should be easier to drive directly from the source.  Now if you are talking strictly about the Amperior, that would make more sense as I believe Senn lowered the impedance on those.


Edited by NewMexiCat - 10/1/12 at 8:36am
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