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^^ Thanks for the input, guys.  I will go ahead and exchange them since they were still doing it last night, after they hadn't been doing it for hours.  I just don't want this "issue" hanging over me.  Plus, I've been twiddling it too much already. :D


Have you received the exchange yet? Don't forget to leave a second review :)

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Has ANYONE used these for gaming? I bought a pair of 598s and they are amazing, but I want something more versatile (to use at the office/in public). I can handle losing some soundstage, but I really don't want to give up the positional awareness/immersion I get while gaming. I also picked up a dragonfly DAC which I have read good things about in this thread, especially from @RootsRockReggae
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I've tried them for gaming, and while the resolution is spot on, and there's enough bass for nice explosions, they don't have the best sound positioning.

Sometimes they surprised me with how wide a soundstage they had, but it was only in certain moments. Which is probably more to do with excellent sound processing by the game engineers than the headphones themselves. 

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Has ANYONE used these for gaming? I bought a pair of 598s and they are amazing, but I want something more versatile (to use at the office/in public). I can handle losing some soundstage, but I really don't want to give up the positional awareness/immersion I get while gaming. I also picked up a dragonfly DAC which I have read good things about in this thread, especially from @RootsRockReggae

For a closed headphone, the Momentum has a very open sound with very good spatial characteristics.

And you might actually gain a sense of immersion moving to closed headphones.

 

Clearly, they trump the 598's for office/public usage.

 

But, still and all, closed headphones will not give you that sense of air and dimensionality

which you find in open headphones.

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Originally Posted by zazex View Post
 

For a closed headphone, the Momentum has a very open sound with very good spatial characteristics.

And you might actually gain a sense of immersion moving to closed headphones.

 

Clearly, they trump the 598's for office/public usage.

 

But, still and all, closed headphones will not give you that sense of air and dimensionality

which you find in open headphones.

 

I've been considering to get a closed pair, and the Momentum is currently the front-runner on my list. I'll try it out sometime.

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Originally Posted by zazex View Post

For a closed headphone, the Momentum has a very open sound with very good spatial characteristics.
And you might actually gain a sense of immersion moving to closed headphones.

Clearly, they trump the 598's for office/public usage.

But, still and all, closed headphones will not give you that sense of air and dimensionality
which you find in open headphones.

This is the very reasonable response I expected. It wouldn't be wise to bring open headphones to the office, it's just plain rude on a plane, but it's also a bit of a waste so have such high quality headphones and NOT use them at work where at least 50% of my music listening occurs.

Thanks! More opinions also welcomed, especially from anyone using a dragonfly in conjunction with their Momentums (or another DAC/amp/sound card that significantly enhances the gaming experience with these!)
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This is the very reasonable response I expected. It wouldn't be wise to bring open headphones to the office, it's just plain rude on a plane, but it's also a bit of a waste so have such high quality headphones and NOT use them at work where at least 50% of my music listening occurs.

Thanks! More opinions also welcomed, especially from anyone using a dragonfly in conjunction with their Momentums (or another DAC/amp/sound card that significantly enhances the gaming experience with these!)

I have Momentums as well as HD558's and HD600's. I take  HD558's to the office and the leakage isn't that much to bother anyone unless I've raised the volume too loud for comfort.. The 559's and 558's are very similar, same drivers. Take them off and put them on your arm, in lieu of your head and listen to the leakage. What do you think?

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Originally Posted by lttlfld View Post

Has ANYONE used these for gaming? I bought a pair of 598s and they are amazing, but I want something more versatile (to use at the office/in public). I can handle losing some soundstage, but I really don't want to give up the positional awareness/immersion I get while gaming. I also picked up a dragonfly DAC which I have read good things about in this thread, especially from @RootsRockReggae

 

No the Momentums are not good for gaming.

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Gaming is all I use the Momentums for these days (well, and movies). They are light and comfortable for their relatively small size, and with the emphasized bass and subdued treble, they are great for all the explosions, screams and other noise, rather than "audiophile" listening... :D

 

Yes, they are closed which has benefits (like being to able to play late without disturbing anyone) and drawbacks, like a slightly narrower soundstage (like pretty much every closed headphone). I don't think it affects sound positioning any more than any other closed stereo headphone I've tried with the same setup (incl. for example the Ed8 with its S-Logic)

 

I am however using it through the old JVC Dolby/DTS Headphone Surround processor (the japanese edition with the AC adapter plug for stationary use) It's not real surround, but since it processes the actual 5.1 from the PS3 through optical, it helps in most games.

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Gaming is all I use the Momentums for these days (well, and movies). They are light and comfortable for their relatively small size, and with the emphasized bass and subdued treble, they are great for all the explosions, screams and other noise, rather than "audiophile" listening... biggrin.gif

Yes, they are closed which has benefits (like being to able to play late without disturbing anyone) and drawbacks, like a slightly narrower soundstage (like pretty much every closed headphone). I don't think it affects sound positioning any more than any other closed stereo headphone I've tried with the same setup (incl. for example the Ed8 with its S-Logic)

I am however using it through the old JVC Dolby/DTS Headphone Surround processor (the japanese edition with the AC adapter plug for stationary use) It's not real surround, but since it processes the actual 5.1 from the PS3 through optical, it helps in most games.
This is great! I game on PC and have just purchased a dragonfly to boost the quality. Are you able to get the edge out of them in FPS games that open headphones in this price range are able to provide? By that I mean, if someone is sneaking up behind you, can you hear their footsteps and respond accordingly?
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Originally Posted by lttlfld View Post


This is great! I game on PC and have just purchased a dragonfly to boost the quality. Are you able to get the edge out of them in FPS games that open headphones in this price range are able to provide? By that I mean, if someone is sneaking up behind you, can you hear their footsteps and respond accordingly?

 

No they are not as good as open headphones at all for gaming

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Neither open nor closed stereo headphones will provide true positional audio. The rest depends on the individual headphones, in terms of the left/right sounds being more "inside" your head or "outside". Generally speaking, open headphones tend to have slightly *wider* imaging, but there are some closed headphones (not the Momentums, admittedly) that come close. After that, it depends on your hearing to what extent that characteristic helps you position sounds within this stereo imaging.

 

Nicholars obviously feels that the above makes a substantial difference to him, I do not so much (surround processing notwithstanding)... Certainly in light of the far greater difference in isolation, esp. also in blocking outside sounds to provide better immersion. I guess it boils down to your environment, whether it is quiet enough, and nobody around you is bothered, in which case open headphones (which model in that price range btw.?) may provide a slight advantage. But I personally honestly do not think it is a night-and-day difference that would make the Momentums unusable for that task.

 

The only way I can think of getting better cues is to either use some surround processing, or maybe one of those multi-speaker gaming headphones (Triton etc.) that claim to use that feature as a way to increase positional cues. Haven't tried any of those myself though. I also want to clarify I'm not much of a -console- FPS gamer, but other games (Uncharted, Last of Us etc,) provide plenty enough cues on the Momentums, at least with my setup. I.e., when it comes to hardcore FPS gaming, other opinions may be more relevant.

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They sound alright for games it is just if you are playing competitive games such as CS:GO or BF4 where sound is important then the Momentums do not cut the mustard.

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Originally Posted by nicholars View Post
 

They sound alright for games it is just if you are playing competitive games such as CS:GO or BF4 where sound is important then the Momentums do not cut the mustard.

Which, if any, closed headphones do you like for gaming?

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Originally Posted by TheGrumpyOldMan View Post

Neither open nor closed stereo headphones will provide true positional audio. The rest depends on the individual headphones, in terms of the left/right sounds being more "inside" your head or "outside". Generally speaking, open headphones tend to have slightly *wider* imaging, but there are some closed headphones (not the Momentums, admittedly) that come close. After that, it depends on your hearing to what extent that characteristic helps you position sounds within this stereo imaging.

Nicholars obviously feels that the above makes a substantial difference to him, I do not so much (surround processing notwithstanding)... Certainly in light of the far greater difference in isolation, esp. also in blocking outside sounds to provide better immersion. I guess it boils down to your environment, whether it is quiet enough, and nobody around you is bothered, in which case open headphones (which model in that price range btw.?) may provide a slight advantage. But I personally honestly do not think it is a night-and-day difference that would make the Momentums unusable for that task.

The only way I can think of getting better cues is to either use some surround processing, or maybe one of those multi-speaker gaming headphones (Triton etc.) that claim to use that feature as a way to increase positional cues. Haven't tried any of those myself though. I also want to clarify I'm not much of a -console- FPS gamer, but other games (Uncharted, Last of Us etc,) provide plenty enough cues on the Momentums, at least with my setup. I.e., when it comes to hardcore FPS gaming, other opinions may be more relevant.
I'm currently using the 598s, but have found they can bother others around me when I've used them toward the higher volume side and they are in the same room trying to watch TV etc
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