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Originally Posted by Speakerphile View Post

Calling out speed, in conjunction with Pace, Rhythm and Attack Timing?

 



If you want to be particularly pedantic then yes.... But I always thought that P.R.A.T meant "punch, rhythm and timing" or "pace, rhythm and timing"... Not sure...

My point was that "exciting" sound does not always mean "V" sound with a lot of treble...
Edited by nicholars - 11/13/13 at 10:52pm
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Not sure what I am on about anyway really TBH as this is the Momentum thread....

Thinking about it the Momentums had a nice balance of bass / mids / treble and the treble on them was very even and nicely balanced... They were not really boring.... Maybe a bit compared to Denon D2000 or HE400.... The Sennheisers which I find boring are the HD6xx series.... Although I like them for some genres.... They are pretty poor at genres like EDM.... The problem I had with the Momentums (which I eventually sold them for) was the tiny cups and the soundstage (lack of)....

Seriously if Sennheiser can just release a bigger momentum which is basically the same sound but with a bigger soundstage and bigger cups I would prob sell my HE400 and get some. They have a really nice design with the Momentums.... But I would really like to see a home version, instead of a tiny portable version that they are currently.... Not sure why Sennheiser do not do this really.... Current Sennheiser closed headphones do not sound as good as the Momentums and the full size open headphones sound totally different.... There is definately a gap in the market at around £300 for a pair of Momentums which are basically the same but 50% bigger.... I would get them
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Originally Posted by streetdragon View Post

CX 300 - II ?

Sennheiser MM50 IP

Purchased on Feb, 27 2009.
Seller: bprosper.
Cost: 44.99
Dreams: shattered...

Seems I tried again.

Vmoda vibe flashback chrom

Purchased on Mar, 6 2009
Seller: Amazon
Price: 58.58
Dreams: very very mildly meet.

Oh.



It's quite interesting looking back...



GITS, CB, Cosmos.... Winning!

Found more;

I called when these buds bit the dust and they quickly shipped me out new ones smily_headphones1.gif


LOL'z don't hate...


O the AKG put a smile on my face when I first put them on! Played some Beyounce!

The DJ1 pros had some issues so I got another pair sent:



I didn't really like the E11..



My HFI 580, I miss thee...
My hamster, Sir Sam Flufflyboots... The cuddly version of Sam Fisher. Jk XD


AKG FTW.


Sweet sweet DJ1's.... And Tom Clancy!



The peeps I sold my gaming PC to never fully paid me... frown.gif


I thought the monoprice sounded sweet but made my ears hurt and stopped working after a short time...



You can never have too many K518's. JK, they were for gifting!

I've purchased more(HFI 580's quite a few times) but not on amazon. I'll stop here, most all this stuff has been sold of gifted. That projector was sweet tho \(>_<)/
Edited by UnityIsPower - 11/14/13 at 8:34am
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So I'm a big HD800 user and love it with my WA7.

I've tried the HD25-II, vModa m80 and M100 and wasn't all that impressed. I've finally nailed it with my momentums and iDevices.  I just set the EQ to treble boost with my iPod U2 4G, iPad Mini Retina and iPhone 5.  It reminds me of when I had the HD650 but with better top end.  It's been a while and I'm going from memory so I'm not too sure the comparison is too valid.

Anyway, I'm really enjoying these particular setups with the Momentum.  I've been thinking about getting the Fostex TH600 for a more fun sound. I'm sure that they'll do better than the Momentum/iDevice combos but at this point, I'm really not feeling an urge to to get something different.  The Momentum's are that good (for me). YMMV.


Edited by MickeyVee - 11/14/13 at 8:23pm
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Does anyone know of any third party cable makers for the Momentums?  I would love a 10 foot cable for use in my office.  I'm OK with the standard cable for everything else.

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Originally Posted by StanD View Post
 

As I thought, it's the treble that your after, admit it. <img data-cke-saved-src=Sennheiser Veil again.

Edit: The HD650 sounds noticeably different from the HD600, HD700 and HD800. It has less treble and the bass is pushed up some. These are more neutral, which to me is a good thing.

 



It is that a bit but I do not even like bright headphones... I just find the "sennheiser sound" to be a bit too "polite" and could be more agressive.... Not just the treble but the whole way that they present the music.... However I think they make very nice headphones that are perfect when you want to relax and get into the music.... When I want something a bit more "exciting" I prefer other headphones such as the Denons or HE400. If the HD650 are 10/10 for boringness I would rate the HD600 about 8/10 IE8 5/10 and Momentum 3/10... I would rate the Denons and HE400 at 1/10.... Grado or Beyerdynamic etc. are far too bright and agressive for me.... I actually really like the HD650, although it sounds like I don't... Just not for some genres...

 

 

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Originally Posted by StanD View Post
 

Ok, but what are the characteristics make the sound exciting for you?

 

After listening a lot to the Momentums for the past few days, the description of their sound that comes to my mind is "clinical".

 

Meaningadjective unemotionalcoldscientificobjectivedetachedanalyticimpersonalantisepticdisinteresteddispassionateemotionless 

(as per Collins Thesaurus of the English Language – Complete and Unabridged 2nd Edition. 2002 © HarperCollins Publishers 1995, 2002)

 

They don't seem 'veiled' to me at all.  "Polite" is close...

I just think they're very clinical sounding, and that's not a judgment on them.  Just a description.

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Originally Posted by zazex View Post
 

 

 

 

After listening a lot to the Momentums for the past few days, the description of their sound that comes to my mind is "clinical".

 

Meaningadjective unemotionalcoldscientificobjectivedetachedanalyticimpersonalantisepticdisinteresteddispassionateemotionless 

(as per Collins Thesaurus of the English Language – Complete and Unabridged 2nd Edition. 2002 © HarperCollins Publishers 1995, 2002)

 

They don't seem 'veiled' to me at all.  "Polite" is close...

I just think they're very clinical sounding, and that's not a judgment on them.  Just a description.

I can only think that is how you feel about them, as I don't think headphones have feelings - lol. Personally I prefer cans that don't impose their color onto the music, for the times when I want to change that, I can use EQ. I can't stand resonant peaks or dips that are prominent. I think that Momentums have a slightly elevated bass and slightly rolled off treble, any more of either and I would become dissatisfied.The things that perhaps one can't measure like the snap of percussion or the clink and clang of cymbals it does OK with. IMO my HD600's does all of this very well.

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I did not find the momentums very clinical sounding personally... I thought they were accurate and generally good.... Clinical sounding to me would be AKG or some Beyer... This is the last time I repeat this now but please Sennheiser make some bigger ones with a better soundstage thx.
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Originally Posted by StanD View Post
 

I can only think that is how you feel about them, as I don't think headphones have feelings - lol. Personally I prefer cans that don't impose their color onto the music, for the times when I want to change that, I can use EQ. I can't stand resonant peaks or dips that are prominent. I think that Momentums have a slightly elevated bass and slightly rolled off treble, any more of either and I would become dissatisfied.The things that perhaps one can't measure like the snap of percussion or the clink and clang of cymbals it does OK with. IMO my HD600's does all of this very well.

 

Yep, that is my impression of them at this point.

 

I obviously don't think headphones 'have feelings',

nor do I understand why you wrote that...(?)

 

I think all cans impose color onto the music

in one way or another.  You can use EQ all you wish,

but that will affect only the FR aspect of the coloration.

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Originally Posted by zazex View Post

 

Yep, that is my impression of them at this point.

 

I obviously don't think headphones 'have feelings',

nor do I understand why you wrote that...(?)

 

I think all cans impose color onto the music

in one way or another.  You can use EQ all you wish,

but that will affect only the FR aspect of the coloration.

 



If I drop my headphones on the floor they look sort of sad like "why did you do that"..... Also I am sure once when I dropped my HE400 they made a little yelping noise... So who knows maybe they do have feelings.
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Originally Posted by zazex View Post
 

 

Yep, that is my impression of them at this point.

 

I obviously don't think headphones 'have feelings',

nor do I understand why you wrote that...(?)

 

I think all cans impose color onto the music

in one way or another.  You can use EQ all you wish,

but that will affect only the FR aspect of the coloration.

Why I wrote, 'have feelings', c'mon where's your sense of humor?

Yes all cans impose color onto music, I prefer ones that do as little as possible. That's why I'm not so keen on most overpriced fashionable celebrity endorsed junk. I'd rather sink money into something that is both functional and sounds right to me. Each of us have our own preferences.

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Why I wrote, 'have feelings', c'mon where's your sense of humor?
Yes all cans impose color onto music, I prefer ones that do as little as possible. That's why I'm not so keen on most overpriced fashionable celebrity endorsed junk. I'd rather sink money into something that is both functional and sounds right to me. Each of us have our own preferences.

It's less about color and more about smoothness. Interesting thing is that your brain adapts to what you hear, so after longer listening and without any noise from outside world you won't be able to tell whether one headphones have more bass or treble (as long as you don't switch between them, but listen to ones one day and others on other day after some break). The things your brain cannot figure out are usually unexpected peaks in mid treble and high bass, and thus no matter how long you listen and how quiet is environment, you will still hear those peaks. Personally I am allergic to peaks @ ~3kHz and ~200Hz. Momentum does have this slight bump around that high bass, but fortunately it's not as bad, so I can still like them tongue.gif
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It's less about color and more about smoothness. Interesting thing is that your brain adapts to what you hear, so after longer listening and without any noise from outside world you won't be able to tell whether one headphones have more bass or treble (as long as you don't switch between them, but listen to ones one day and others on other day after some break). The things your brain cannot figure out are usually unexpected peaks in mid treble and high bass, and thus no matter how long you listen and how quiet is environment, you will still hear those peaks. Personally I am allergic to peaks @ ~3kHz and ~200Hz. Momentum does have this slight bump around that high bass, but fortunately it's not as bad, so I can still like them tongue.gif

 



One thing I really liked about the Momentum is how even the frequency response is, there are basically no peaks / dips and no part of the sound is louder / quieter / missing.... I had the Momentums at the same time as the Vmoda M-100 and it was almost laughable how uneven the M-100 sound compared to the Momentum, I honestly do not know why there is a million page thread about the M-100 because to my ears they are nothing special.
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Originally Posted by koolas View Post


It's less about color and more about smoothness. Interesting thing is that your brain adapts to what you hear, so after longer listening and without any noise from outside world you won't be able to tell whether one headphones have more bass or treble (as long as you don't switch between them, but listen to ones one day and others on other day after some break). The things your brain cannot figure out are usually unexpected peaks in mid treble and high bass, and thus no matter how long you listen and how quiet is environment, you will still hear those peaks. Personally I am allergic to peaks @ ~3kHz and ~200Hz. Momentum does have this slight bump around that high bass, but fortunately it's not as bad, so I can still like them tongue.gif

I switch around a lot between:

HD600 My favorites at home

Momentums - at home when I need closed backs.

HD558 (Modded) used at the office, the leakage isn't so much to bother co-worker. Then again we have decent space.

Sony XBA-3 - on the bus or outside. Needs an amp to sound right.

Bose QC-15 on the bus, once you're in a rumbling environment they sound better than most cans so one can no longer nitpick Bose under such conditions.

 

Since I switch around a lot, I can feel the different flavors. I can't stand resonant peaks, especially in the sss...silibant region, which ruins the Klipsh S4 series which otherwise would be an ok cheapie. I've used the parametric EQ in NeutronMP to cut it down, but they still suck.

 

Edit: Forgot to mention, the Momentums have no bad habits, I enjoy them. Given a choice, I pick up the HD600s.


Edited by StanD - 11/16/13 at 8:44am
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