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post #2626 of 3147
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Originally Posted by GREQ View Post
 

I've never been bothered by the momentums size, ear cups or seams. I've worm them for 3-5 hours a couple of times too. 

 

I think Shrek will just have to stick to loudspeakers and forget headphones altogether. Poor fella.

He looks like someone that can benefit from custom molded IEM's.

post #2627 of 3147
I just tried the Amperior and while I still prefer my GR07's, these are a step in the right direction. Still... I prefer Ultrasone DJ1/HFI 580's more.

The Amperiors sound less clouded then the Momentum's but don't quite hold up against the clarity of the beloved Ultrasone's, both Ultrasone's are also currently cheaper.

Comfort is better then I thought given the design/type of earphone. Not much clamping force and the pads feel nice on my ears. They are pillows compared to AKG K518LE's that's for sure, lol. The cold to touch aluminum cups... I am fan of, aesthetically. Quite thick cable to thin cable... not very much a fan, no.

Use time... About 2h's.

Anybody else want to let me try gear, yes pls. I pay in digi hugs smily_headphones1.gif AKG K240's?
post #2628 of 3147

It's been 3 months since I bought this headphones and still don't like them. They sound dull and dark, even though Momentums have much better sound quality, I have more fun listening to music on my old and half-broken 2$ earbuds.

 

Could that be something wrong with their drivers? I have noticed that often I hear a static noise on many tracks (but they usually disappear when I cut off freqs above 12kHz), also I need to put a lot of power into them (on my o2 amp, I usually set volume to about 12 o'clock on 2.5x gain) to start enjoying music. Experimenting with sine gen software I have found out that on there is a big dip (about -20dB) between 4kHz and 4.2kHz, which is different than I have seen on graphs, according to which this should happen above 4.5kHz.

 

For some genres they sound pretty fine (like pop or mainstream EDM), but for more complex and layered music (which I listen most of the time) like goa/psy trance, ambient and sometimes classical, they sound unmelodic and lifeless.

 

Will burning them change anything or should I be concerned that there is something wrong with them or are they just not for me? Besides that I like everything else about them, they look great, are very comfortable but I wish I could truly enjoy their sound.

post #2629 of 3147
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Originally Posted by ieee754 View Post
 

It's been 3 months since I bought this headphones and still don't like them. They sound dull and dark, even though Momentums have much better sound quality, I have more fun listening to music on my old and half-broken 2$ earbuds.

 

Could that be something wrong with their drivers? I have noticed that often I hear a static noise on many tracks (but they usually disappear when I cut off freqs above 12kHz), also I need to put a lot of power into them (on my o2 amp, I usually set volume to about 12 o'clock on 2.5x gain) to start enjoying music. Experimenting with sine gen software I have found out that on there is a big dip (about -20dB) between 4kHz and 4.2kHz, which is different than I have seen on graphs, according to which this should happen above 4.5kHz.

 

For some genres they sound pretty fine (like pop or mainstream EDM), but for more complex and layered music (which I listen most of the time) like goa/psy trance, ambient and sometimes classical, they sound unmelodic and lifeless.

 

Will burning them change anything or should I be concerned that there is something wrong with them or are they just not for me? Besides that I like everything else about them, they look great, are very comfortable but I wish I could truly enjoy their sound.

Might be worth running into a store that sells them, to compare against another set.  Can't hurt.  

post #2630 of 3147
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Originally Posted by ieee754 View Post
 

It's been 3 months since I bought this headphones and still don't like them. They sound dull and dark, even though Momentums have much better sound quality, I have more fun listening to music on my old and half-broken 2$ earbuds.

 

Could that be something wrong with their drivers? I have noticed that often I hear a static noise on many tracks (but they usually disappear when I cut off freqs above 12kHz), also I need to put a lot of power into them (on my o2 amp, I usually set volume to about 12 o'clock on 2.5x gain) to start enjoying music. Experimenting with sine gen software I have found out that on there is a big dip (about -20dB) between 4kHz and 4.2kHz, which is different than I have seen on graphs, according to which this should happen above 4.5kHz.

 

For some genres they sound pretty fine (like pop or mainstream EDM), but for more complex and layered music (which I listen most of the time) like goa/psy trance, ambient and sometimes classical, they sound unmelodic and lifeless.

 

Will burning them change anything or should I be concerned that there is something wrong with them or are they just not for me? Besides that I like everything else about them, they look great, are very comfortable but I wish I could truly enjoy their sound.

Static noise and dips in the FR are not normal. Something is broken in the audio chain, you should be enjoying your cans. As far as the dip goes, check to see of you have an EQ setting that is causing this. Noise, check your DAP and amp.

post #2631 of 3147
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Originally Posted by ieee754 View Post
 

It's been 3 months since I bought this headphones and still don't like them. They sound dull and dark, even though Momentums have much better sound quality, I have more fun listening to music on my old and half-broken 2$ earbuds.

 

Could that be something wrong with their drivers? I have noticed that often I hear a static noise on many tracks (but they usually disappear when I cut off freqs above 12kHz), also I need to put a lot of power into them (on my o2 amp, I usually set volume to about 12 o'clock on 2.5x gain) to start enjoying music. Experimenting with sine gen software I have found out that on there is a big dip (about -20dB) between 4kHz and 4.2kHz, which is different than I have seen on graphs, according to which this should happen above 4.5kHz.

 

For some genres they sound pretty fine (like pop or mainstream EDM), but for more complex and layered music (which I listen most of the time) like goa/psy trance, ambient and sometimes classical, they sound unmelodic and lifeless.

 

Will burning them change anything or should I be concerned that there is something wrong with them or are they just not for me? Besides that I like everything else about them, they look great, are very comfortable but I wish I could truly enjoy their sound.

 

Are you using the cable with the remote? - quite a few have had faulty remote cables that TOTALLY screw up the sound to worse than... well... your $2 earbuds.

Try using the other cable - if the remote cable is the culprit, there should be a night and day difference in sound and you need to get your set exchanged for a new set with a functional remote cable.

post #2632 of 3147

That static noise is probably from bad recordings (but I heard it also in many FLACs), and it's not very distracting, but I just noticed that I hear it often, this could be because it's my first audiophile headphones so I just didn't care earlier. I think that there is nothing wrong with my audio chain, I tested it both with my O2/ODAC combo and laptop sound card, but I don't hear any big difference between them. There is a dip in FR measurements ( http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/SennheiserMomentum.pdf ) so I think it's how Sennheiser designed these headphones to be, but it seems to be different on my pair, when I run this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNf9nzvnd1k

It starts being quiet at about 3.9kHz and then at about 4.3kHz it sharply goes up to similar level as it was in 3.5kHz, what in measurements happens about 0.5kHz later.

 

I don't use remote cable as I don't own iDevice and it doesn't work (I don't hear anything) with my pc, I can try installing software which will make it work on Android but I doubt it will make difference.

post #2633 of 3147
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Originally Posted by ieee754 View Post

 

Will burning them change anything or should I be concerned that there is something wrong with them or are they just not for me? Besides that I like everything else about them, they look great, are very comfortable but I wish I could truly enjoy their sound.

 

 

It could be that the sound signature of the Momentum is just not your cup of tea.   I've come across many models beloved by many Headfiers that I could  not stand at all (the V-moda M-80, for instance).

post #2634 of 3147
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Originally Posted by elvergun View Post
 

 

 

It could be that the sound signature of the Momentum is just not your cup of tea.   I've come across many models beloved by many Headfiers that I could  not stand at all (the V-moda M-80, for instance).

I just want to rule out possibility that there is something wrong with them. If they are fine then I guess I need to get used to their dark signature, or I am going to get myself HD25 or DT1350 for christmas, looking on their ratings on goldenears they seem to be very promising (scored high on clear/natural/vivid with solid bass what seems to be good for trance).

post #2635 of 3147

Most Sennheisers are a bit "boring and dark" sounding.... But preferring $2 earphones to them does not sound right to me... I found the Momentums pretty good for electronic music.... Although as usual with Sennheisers they are bit boring.... Maybe you would be better off with some more lively sounding headphones such as Denon Dxxxx or HIFIMAN HE400.


Edited by nicholars - 11/12/13 at 12:18pm
post #2636 of 3147
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Originally Posted by nicholars View Post
 

Most Sennheisers are a bit "boring and dark" sounding.... But preferring $2 earphones to them does not sound right to me... I found the Momentums pretty good for electronic music.... Although as usual with Sennheisers they are bit boring.... Maybe you would be better off with some more lively sounding headphones such as Denon Dxxxx or HIFIMAN HE400.

Which Sennheisers have you owned that you found boring?

post #2637 of 3147
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Which Sennheisers have you owned that you found boring?

 



Owned... HD650 (most boring), Momentum (slightly boring), IE8 (slightly boring)

Tried most of them in shops as well.... Not that Sennheiser is bad, I think they make very good headphones, just they tend to be a bit slow / boring sounding, it is just the Sennheiser house sound, although I have not used the HD700/800 which are supposed to be different.
Edited by nicholars - 11/12/13 at 5:46pm
post #2638 of 3147
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Originally Posted by StanD View Post
 

Which Sennheisers have you owned that you found boring?

 



Owned... HD650 (most boring), Momentum (slightly boring), IE8 (slightly boring)

Tried most of them in shops as well.... Not that Sennheiser is bad, I think they make very good headphones, just they tend to be a bit slow / boring sounding, it is just the Sennheiser house sound, although I have not used the HD700/800 which are supposed to be different.

HD600, not boring, I like them much more than the HD650.


Edited by StanD - 11/12/13 at 6:37pm
post #2639 of 3147
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Originally Posted by nicholars View Post
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by StanD View Post
 

Which Sennheisers have you owned that you found boring?

 



Owned... HD650 (most boring), Momentum (slightly boring), IE8 (slightly boring)

Tried most of them in shops as well.... Not that Sennheiser is bad, I think they make very good headphones, just they tend to be a bit slow / boring sounding, it is just the Sennheiser house sound, although I have not used the HD700/800 which are supposed to be different.

 

Not sure how you're putting the Momentum in the same category as the other two.  They sound nothing alike.  

post #2640 of 3147
I am merely stating my personal opinion on Sennheiser headphones based on owning / trying quite a lot of them. As I said before.... I like Sennheiser headphones... They are very good.... But have a tendency to sound a bit slow and boring... Especially the HD6xx series.... Although the Momentums are not as bad as the HD650 and IE8 you are correct.... The Momentums are not really that boring but the soundstage and cup size bothered me, the momentums could be a bit more exciting sounding though as a few people have said. Again to re-iterate.... I think Sennheiser are good.... But can sound a bit too relaxed at times with some genres...
Edited by nicholars - 11/12/13 at 8:15pm
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