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post #2206 of 3513
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Originally Posted by Speakerphile View Post

Even here, it seems like every other post is dedicated to disparaging V-MODA...  Sennheiser is just as much of a marketing company.  

 

Hmm if this is aimed at me, I am not really doing that on purpose, I am just genuinely puzzled at the massive amount of hype around the M-100... Possibly the biggest thread I have ever seen on head-fi..... More than the HD650 appreciation thread etc.

 

OK they are durable and well built and look OK, other than that they are really nothing to write home about, infact I would say the detail on them is pretty poor at the price, just seems like a mediocre headphone which is well marketed towards younger buyers looking for a *boom tish* type of sound.... IMO the Denon Dxxxx do this far better.

 

Just not impressed at all personally with the comfort, lack of detail, dodgy frequency response etc.. I was expecting something amazing from the monumental amount of hype about them..... The power of marketing I guess.... This is all I am saying about the M-100... I am completely bored of speaking about them now!


Edited by nicholars - 6/18/13 at 6:37pm
post #2207 of 3513

I rest my case...

post #2208 of 3513
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Originally Posted by Speakerphile View Post

Even here, it seems like every other post is dedicated to disparaging V-MODA...  Sennheiser is just as much of a marketing company.  

By 'here' do you mean this thread or headfi generally? (serious question)

post #2209 of 3513

Don't listen to him he is just trying to insult me even although I have done nothing wrong except give my opinion about the M-100

post #2210 of 3513
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Originally Posted by GREQ View Post

By 'here' do you mean this thread or headfi generally? (serious question)

I mean this thread.  

post #2211 of 3513
"Sennheiser is just as much of a marketing company"

I'm pretty sure that he is here before you born biggrin.gifbiggrin.gif
post #2212 of 3513

I think one reason the Momentum gets much less attention is that their sound is highly dependent on whether you can wear them around ear, as intended/designed, or not. I'm in the latter group and could not hear what some others are talking about: to me they were too dark (OK, I'm more into a bit brighter sounding headphones) and had thick, bloated midbass with not very good extension. Too soft overall, which some may appreciate as laid back but its just not enthusiastic enough to me.

The Momentum is in good part hampered by its design -- the cups are simply too small for many. I can imagine that they sound quite different when worn as intended. The drivers might be quite capable though...

post #2213 of 3513
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Originally Posted by nicoch46 View Post

"Sennheiser is just as much of a marketing company"

I'm pretty sure that he is here before you born biggrin.gifbiggrin.gif

What?

post #2214 of 3513
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Originally Posted by plakat View Post

I think one reason the Momentum gets much less attention is that their sound is highly dependent on whether you can wear them around ear, as intended/designed, or not. I'm in the latter group and could not hear what some others are talking about: to me they were too dark (OK, I'm more into a bit brighter sounding headphones) and had thick, bloated midbass with not very good extension. Too soft overall, which some may appreciate as laid back but its just not enthusiastic enough to me.

The Momentum is in good part hampered by its design -- the cups are simply too small for many. I can imagine that they sound quite different when worn as intended. The drivers might be quite capable though...

 

Yes I agree with you they are too small... They just about fit around my ears so they sound good to me... Although I think they would benefit from being a bit bigger for sound purposes as well as fit eg. bigger soundstage.

 

Nice link in your sig as well it explains a lot about the hi-fi industry!


Edited by nicholars - 6/19/13 at 9:47am
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Originally Posted by nicholars View Post

Nice link in your sig as well it explains a lot about the hi-fi industry!

 

Yes, I do think so... a bit of self-reflection can help save quite a bit of money ;-)

post #2216 of 3513

I just looked at the FR graph. Do these really start rolling off at 1kHz? They didn't sound that massively dark when I listened to them. 

 

If so, they should come with a sticker that says, "treble not included" 

 

 

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Originally Posted by Windsor View Post

I just made this video review of the MOMENTUM:

 

 

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I always enjoy your reviews. Keep it up. 

 

Are you enjoying these more than the Amperiors these days? For my taste, the Shure SRH-940s were the best of the overcrowded closed mid-fi phones, but their huge ugly look (don't wear these in public) and plastic, unreliable and crack prone construction forced me to return them. 

post #2217 of 3513
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Originally Posted by robm321 View Post

I just looked at the FR graph. Do these really start rolling off at 1kHz? They didn't sound that massively dark when I listened to them. 

 

If so, they should come with a sticker that says, "treble not included" 

 

 

They have a really nice balance and just the right amount of treble (IMO), they are not completely neutral and they do roll off around 2-4khz but all that means is the treble is a bit quieter than the mids compared to headphones which are very forward in the treble, it is all there and they are detailed etc. However if you are someone who really likes bright headphones such as beyerdynamic, grado etc. then these are probably not for you...


Edited by nicholars - 6/19/13 at 11:16am
post #2218 of 3513

Basically they are completely flat (almost) from 10hz > 2khz...

 

Then there is quite a steep roll off from 2khz > 4Khz....

 

Then (apart from a dip at 4khz) the whole of the treble is basically very even and you are not missing any treble detail, except that it is a bit quieter than if they were completely neutral....

 

Overall IMO they sound very natural and a nice balance between being too dark or too bright... Sennheiser did a very good job IMO... But these are not really studio type analytical neutral headphones, more of a consumer type sound signature... Depends what you are looking for..

 

Here is my advanced analysis of the frequency response of the momentums, (beware this is pretty advanced stuff, containing highly technical drawings - **ADVANCED ANALYSIS FOR EXPERTS ONLY**)

 


Edited by nicholars - 6/19/13 at 11:31am
post #2219 of 3513

^ thanks for the explanation. 

post #2220 of 3513

I think that they actually sound more neutral than a pair of headphones which would technically be considered completely neutral (eg. 10hz > 20khz completely flat line).

 

It is subjective as to what a person considers neutral... I mean when you walk down the street do you hear all the super high pitched, detailed / sharp sounds that you hear on a headphone like Beyerdynamic? I don't.... So subjectively I would call these more neutral than some headphones which would technically be called more neutral.

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