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PSB's look interesting, I used to have some PSB speakers and they were good... I am surprised that the KEF headphones are not WORSE comfort than the Momentums from looking at them, but my ears do just fit inside the Momentum pads and they have enough depth so they are OK for me.... Maybe you do not like the Momentums because you were using them as on ear headphones, I think they are supposed to be used as normal headphones not on ears... The only things that make me think about swapping them for other headphones is I would like bigger pads and bigger soundstage.


Edited by nicholars - 6/14/13 at 9:07am
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Can anyone suggest any headphones which are better than these? I am still looking to see if there is anything else better for the money.... So far I have tried the Logitech UE6000 and V-moda M-100, I tried the MDR-1R in the shop as well...

 

Is there anything better for <£250 with a bigger soundstage and cups?

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Keep in mind of course, that I am speaking from my own preferences re sound and comfort.

 

Since I cannot get all of my ear inside the Momentum pads, I am always wondering what part I should put in biggrin.gif

I guess they end up half on-ear/half around-ear. To me, this would have to cause a variance in perceived sound quality/frequency response.

 

The KEF sits right on the ear but has such a light clamping force and soft pads that I don't think anyone would find them less than extremely comfortable.

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The DT1350 is definitely more neutral. I would argue that they are the better reference closed cans.

However, I can't seem to take the Momentums off my head (except to replace them with the LCD3s). There are not many good closed cans other than the Fostex line IMHO. I certainly like the DT1350 and Momentums more than the high end closed Ultrasone cans.
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Originally Posted by Beagle View Post

Keep in mind of course, that I am speaking from my own preferences re sound and comfort.

 

Since I cannot get all of my ear inside the Momentum pads, I am always wondering what part I should put in biggrin.gif

I guess they end up half on-ear/half around-ear. To me, this would have to cause a variance in perceived sound quality/frequency response.

 

The KEF sits right on the ear but has such a light clamping force and soft pads that I don't think anyone would find them less than extremely comfortable.

 

This would explain why you do not like the sound then, my ears fit inside the pads and I can wear them like normal headphones, get a proper seal etc. Although they are a bit too tight I would prefer if they were 30% bigger.

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Originally Posted by nicholars View Post

Can anyone suggest any headphones which are better than these? I am still looking to see if there is anything else better for the money.... So far I have tried the Logitech UE6000 and V-moda M-100, I tried the MDR-1R in the shop as well...

 

Is there anything better for <£250 with a bigger soundstage and cups?

MDR-1R. Best portable closed can you can buy. InnerFidelity agrees. Much bigger soundstage and full sized cups.

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Originally Posted by nicholars View Post

Can anyone suggest any headphones which are better than these? I am still looking to see if there is anything else better for the money.... So far I have tried the Logitech UE6000 and V-moda M-100, I tried the MDR-1R in the shop as well...

 

Is there anything better for <£250 with a bigger soundstage and cups?

 

Why do you like momentum better than shure srh 840 (saw it at your signature)? I would like to hear your opinion.

 

Sorry for my off topic reply.

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Hmm I had the 840 a few years ago... They are a bit bright and analytical for me... I guess this is because they are designed to be pro monitor headphones whereas the Momentums are consumer headphones.

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MDR-1R. Best portable closed can you can buy. InnerFidelity agrees. Much bigger soundstage and full sized cups.

 

Hmm I am not sure they do agree because it says this at the end :

 

Summary Sony MDR-1R


With it's very good looks, very good comfort, good sound quality, and very attractive price, I find myself compelled to put these versatile headphones up on the Wall of Fame as the best all around portable,around the ear headset.

 

Better sound is available with the Sennheiser Momentum, but fit problems with larger than average ears and head size make it difficult to recommend broadly. And people looking for solid, punchy bass would be better off with the V-Moda M-100. Both, however, are more than $100 more expensive than the Sony MDR-1R.

 

 

Might give them a try anyway although the lack of sub bass and slightly crazy frequency response makes me think the Momentum are probably better (except for the cup size and possibly soundstage)

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ok thank you ;-)

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Originally Posted by nicholars View Post

 

Hmm I am not sure they do agree because it says this at the end :

 

Summary Sony MDR-1R


With it's very good looks, very good comfort, good sound quality, and very attractive price, I find myself compelled to put these versatile headphones up on the Wall of Fame as the best all around portable,around the ear headset.

 

Better sound is available with the Sennheiser Momentum, but fit problems with larger than average ears and head size make it difficult to recommend broadly. And people looking for solid, punchy bass would be better off with the V-Moda M-100. Both, however, are more than $100 more expensive than the Sony MDR-1R.

 

 

Might give them a try anyway although the lack of sub bass and slightly crazy frequency response makes me think the Momentum are probably better (except for the cup size and possibly soundstage)

 

From the article: "With it's very good looks, very good comfort, good sound quality, and very attractive price, I find myself compelled to put these versatile headphones up on the Wall of Fame as the best all around portable, around the ear headset."

 

Yeah, sound is slightly better on the Momentum. I agree with that. But the 1R is the best overall package. They agree. I agree.

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I notice a lot of MDR-1R on ebay for about £100..... I might give them a go because they are half the price of the momentums... I have a feeling that the lack of sub bass will be a problem for me though testing against the Momentum, M-100 and UE6000. Do you use them for electronic music?

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Originally Posted by nicholars View Post

I notice a lot of MDR-1R on ebay for about £100..... I might give them a go because they are half the price of the momentums... I have a feeling that the lack of sub bass will be a problem for me though testing against the Momentum, M-100 and UE6000. Do you use them for electronic music?

I can use the 1R for anything. I think they are more general purpose than the Momentum. Again, I like the Momentum sound better, especially for beaty music. I'm sure I would like them better for electronic music as well.


Edited by roguegeek - 6/14/13 at 1:01pm
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Originally Posted by nicholars View Post

Can anyone suggest any headphones which are better than these? I am still looking to see if there is anything else better for the money.... So far I have tried the Logitech UE6000 and V-moda M-100, I tried the MDR-1R in the shop as well...

 

Is there anything better for <£250 with a bigger soundstage and cups?


I ended up getting a pair of Denon D7100's, but they're well over £250. I like the soundstage and they're very comfy to wear. Bass is pretty deep, great with Dance Music especially.The D600's are £199 and seem pretty good going by the folk that have them too.


Edited by GSARider - 6/14/13 at 2:39pm
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Originally Posted by nicholars View Post

Yes the momentum (just) fit around my ears... If I was wearing them as on ears I would think they would probably sound bad....

I was just agreeing with you that £260 is a bit steep but I think they would be good value at £180 as an overall product, anywhere from £60-£140 is just silly because they are clearly better than any other headphones in that price and also they look nice and are built very well.
Now what I will say will sound weird, but I do think Momentum's are worth these £260. What's more I did never say that they aren't. What I did say is that some portion of this price is their style and build quality, but it is still a value, and that does matter. I compared their sound to HD570 (worth around £120) and HD215 (selling at around £70), but I never meant to say that Momentum's sound quality is bad or not worth the money. What I did say was that HD215 do have great sound quality, and probably they are very much under-priced. I just connected them to my PMA720, and I also tried Momentum's and other HD570's and I just stick with HD215's. It doesn't matter. It is the matter of my personal taste. It's just that HD215 have very good sound, but wait, they are studio headphones, so they must sound good.

As to Momentum's, they sound incredible in general. I would never expect this type of headphone to sound even close to this. I have heard some other headphones (the well known brand) and they were very, but very far far away from what Momentum's have to offer. Honestly, I do think that Sennheiser does really good job. They are specialists. When I listen to HD215 I have that feeling that they didn't even know how good headphones they are selling for how low price. With Momentum's the story is similar. The overall sound quality is amazing, and definitely worth money, but what I have pointed out is the fact that in my opinion it is not true that Momentum's have good sub-bass. In my opinion their sub-bass is illusive, but this is only my opinion. I don't really care if that is truth, or not, I like them a lot anyways. If I were to recommend or not I would simply ask "are you ready to spend £260?". if the answer is yes, then go for it. Momentum's are definitely something you need to have in your headphone library - if you are real audiophile off course.
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