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post #346 of 511

^ Is this a manufacturer's measurements?

 

Rin has measured both the NT6 and UERM.  On his rig the UERM extends further in treble but the NT6 has more linear upper mid. Seems like you can't really go wrong with either. (Apparently the NT6 has been through a revision a couple of years ago.  Looks like a significant improvement.)   

post #347 of 511

Hidition will be introducing a new headphones at the end of july as the website states:

 

            New Product Coming Soon!!
 
 
 
 
 
Frequency response : 10hz-19.5khz (4 Driver)
Features : Timbre control switch, treble, mid, based on a smooth flat, bass adjustment switch that can change the tone
 
 
Price : Unknown
 
 

Currently, the product is coming soon be available hearing from the end of July. 

 

Hidition will do our best to satisfy you

 

Your interest and encouragement, thank you for your support.

 
 
 
-  HIDITION 성병하 -
post #348 of 511
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Im a treble-head too and yes.... I want that 20k eventhought my ears cant reach that high...but i want it to be there...but a_j test the uerm treble to start to roll off @ 16,5 khz frown.gif
I can tell you as science teacher who regularly plays a hearing test for students in my class, who range up to 18, that very few people hear past 15khz once past 17 years old. It is particularly true of 21+ adults. They simply aren't aware anything is being played at all. I've tried it on friends.

People who claim they do hear beyond these ranges are generally lying and are found out when I say "can you hear that?" When playing nothing and they say "yes!". I think this extension thing is a bit of a red herring.

No doubt the NT6-PRO extend far up, but even when I eq the treble down they still have incredible clarity. So it isn't just about the decibels and charts. Their fundamental characteristic is clarity across all frequencies from treble down to sub-bass.

Reducing a perceptual experience to graphs and frequency responses just isn't the whole thing, as empirical as it sounds. I love empirical but for sound, it just doesn't work.

I've heard 60k stereos that I don't even like. I had a guy listen to my stereo (8k for everything) and say he prefers his 200 dollar stereo! There's no accounting for taste.
post #349 of 511
IMO, the magic is in the NT6pro's 5-way design focusing each driver on smaller parts of the frequency range = clarity.
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IMO, the magic is in the NT6pro's 5-way design focusing each driver on smaller parts of the frequency range = clarity.

Is there a consistency to the reasoning?  Is there a correlation between high number of crossovers and clarity?  I know number of drivers do not match up as the UERM is 3 and does a supurb job.  Something I've noticed is more than 2-way provides amazing dynamic imaging.  Like a 3d imaging sound.  I've noticed this with my NT-6 when I play good recording that has good separation, it shows it off with good dynamic imaging.  For this, you have to have a high powered quality amp.  With this setup, it sets apart from lesser iems.  You will notice iems have a limit to their dynamic imaging ability, and the NT-6 really shines, making the sounds more alive.

 

Newly mastered Micheal Jackson Discography is amazing in this regard.  Dynamic imaging is just amazing, and the NT-6 outputs it well.


Edited by SilverEars - 6/14/14 at 1:36pm
post #351 of 511
I think the 5way design adds to dynamics as well as the load is minimized on each driver providing more potential, but you are right that it requires a good amp to take advantage of the potential.
post #352 of 511

Considering how the quality of the amp has such a dramatic impact on the NT6 Pro's sound, I wonder how a totl desktop amp like the upcoming Schiit Ragnarok would sound with the NT6 Pro? :biggrin:

post #353 of 511
I don't think it is a coincidence that the top two CIEMs on AJ and tupac,s SQ lists are both 5way designs. The se5 improves on the 5way design by providing 5 separate sound tubes to each driver for complete separation vs the nt6pro's 3 sound tubes that mixes a couple frequencies. The se5 scores higher on both charts and is known for its clarity and it's dynamics even though it is tuned a little warmer.
post #354 of 511
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I don't think it is a coincidence that the top two CIEMs on AJ and tupac,s SQ lists are both 5way designs. The se5 improves on the 5way design by providing 5 separate sound tubes to each driver for complete separation vs the nt6pro's 3 sound tubes that mixes a couple frequencies. The se5 scores higher on both charts and is known for its clarity and it's dynamics even though it is tuned a little warmer.

 

I though the NT6 Pro scored higher for clarity though?

 

AJ rates the quality of the NT6 Pro's bass as 100 / 100

while he rates the SE5's bass quality at 95 / 100

 

But as with everything in the TOTL, there is never a best, it always comes down to personal preference.

post #355 of 511

Ok so, Vorzuge amps are awsome.  zach didn't think wagnus matched up well with Hugo.  I think the Wagnus may have too much gain, and probably for hard to drive phones I"m guessing.  What other amps NT6/pro have you guys found good synergy with?

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I don't think it is a coincidence that the top two CIEMs on AJ and tupac,s SQ lists are both 5way designs. The se5 improves on the 5way design by providing 5 separate sound tubes to each driver for complete separation vs the nt6pro's 3 sound tubes that mixes a couple frequencies. The se5 scores higher on both charts and is known for its clarity and it's dynamics even though it is tuned a little warmer.

I though the NT6 Pro scored higher for clarity though?

AJ rates the quality of the NT6 Pro's bass as 100 / 100
while he rates the SE5's bass quality at 95 / 100

But as with everything in the TOTL, there is never a best, it always comes down to personal preference.

I only meant the se5 scored higher overall on these charts in their opinions. However, they obviously both scored very highly in everything to get those almost perfect and very close scores. I personally want to own both given the very different signatures to have the best of both worlds.
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I only meant the se5 scored higher overall on these charts in their opinions. However, they obviously both scored very highly in everything to get those almost perfect and very close scores. I personally want to own both given the very different signatures to have the best of both worlds.

 

Ohhh ok I see.

 

Lucky for me, I only have one specific signature preference! :D

post #358 of 511
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Ok so, Vorzuge amps are awsome.  zach didn't think wagnus matched up well with Hugo.  I think the Wagnus may have too much gain, and probably for hard to drive phones I"m guessing.  What other amps NT6/pro have you guys found good synergy with?

 

Definitely not the HM901 balanced amp card!

post #359 of 511
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Definitely not the HM901 balanced amp card!

Of course, you need the iem card to make it sound properly with CIEMs.  Mamouile liked the 901 with NT-6 and he had the iem card I believe, and so did joker.  joker uses 901 for his rankings, so it's got to be versatile at least.  

 

I think I've reached the peak of the best setup, and I've over done it as it sound so detailed and clear, it sound analytical.  :D  It's my ODAC feeding to Vorzuge pure ii to my NT6.  It's so damn detailed, it picks up hiss that was recorded that no headphone I've owned yet could have picked up.  I love my NT-6.  I don't know if an amp could get any more transparent than the Vorzuge.  It's ridiculously transparent.

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Considering how the quality of the amp has such a dramatic impact on the NT6 Pro's sound, I wonder how a totl desktop amp like the upcoming Schiit Ragnarok would sound with the NT6 Pro? :biggrin:

Don't do it. You already tried an high gain amp, the Wagnus, and what did it give you other than hiss?  Ragnarok is probably set to drive HE-6, and you dont' want to blow up(or really burn-in) your NT-6 pro with it. :D   If you plug your pro into it, it will hiss like a mofo and you probably won't even able turn the volume knob without it defening your ears.


Edited by SilverEars - 6/14/14 at 5:50pm
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